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apisan at servidor.unam.mx
apisan at servidor.unam.mx
Sat Jan 8 17:16:13 UTC 2011
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Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?RES=Á__Fw=Á_Fw=Á_RESULTADO_DEL = =?iso-8859-1?q?_VOTO=Á_Declaraci=F3n_de_ALAC_sobre_el_solo_car=Eçter_ID= =?iso-8859-1?q?N_TLDs =
From: apisan at servidor.unam.mx
Sylvia,
thanks to recentrar the discussion in the noun.
In this subject - gTLDs of a single character in IDNs - an angle has
additional that we cannot discard:
The linguistic one which it is of bottom in this subject is very complex and is
well-known by very few specialists at world-wide level. The difficulties
they begin in which who we have grown with languages that are not Chinese,
Japanese or Korean we do not understand absolutely how they (nor they work
ours, even though they are educated in his lectoescritura). Ithas
fundamental differences.
What one becomes in the DNS with IDNs, then, is a concerted effort of
adaptation, that must be limited not to create a cascade of
instability.
The risk of the resolution at issue is that although it is point less than
inevitable and urgent to initiate the concession of the registry of gTLDs of
a single character when behind them it is a language, an alphabet, one
writing form, or a country (for a very small number of these
variables), this cannot nor must signficar that by extension they become
same concessions for other groups of interest. These could protest
that since the registry of dominions of a single character hasbegun or
digit in Chinese, cannot have objection to do it for only a character
Latin.
The problem is well different as much from the technical point of viewlike
from the one of policy of development of the DNS as a whole. And who are
followed east subject and they know the community know that there is much money in
game looking for the opening of the dominions monocarácte ASCII.
Then, the resolution that supports our community will have to know a clearly one
limit, and must have continuity in the pursuit by our part
in order to avoid that one abuses in his interpretation.
I add that already the resolution that is to voting has been result of
negotiations very prolonged, and that space IDN is not free of
I interest commercial important. Some of most important by
now they come accompanied from deep technical knowledge and participated
in the resolution, so that this one already is in the limit ofthe balance between
the technically feasible and liberation of space for initiatives
lucrative and innovation.
With taste I will enter details or I will put to the interested ones in contact with
the experts in whom I have leaned to study this subject along
of the years (and that well are known many of You).
Sylvia, a last point: thanks to remember the possible interest to us in
our region that can arise from preHispanic languages. Amerita
to reunite to the hablantes with more knowhow, or to those who
want to propose the TLDs corresponding. Also let us remember that
it can do much in the second level. Thus, the countries where those reside
hablantes could give to a first step opening the registry of low IDNs
ccTLDs like pe, ar, bo, cl, mx, etc. In Mexico we do not have at least
received, that I know, no expression of interest on the matter, but has
that to be open to it.
Warm greeting.
Alexander Pisanty
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 sylvia at internautabrasil.org wrote:
> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:30:08 -0200 > From: sylvia at internautabrasil.org > To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ iso-8859-1 ] HEAD OF CATTLE: Fw: Fw: RESULT OF THE VOTE: > Declaration of ALAC on single character IDN TLDs > > > Dear Miembros of LACRALO: > Before more nothing um happy 2011 for all the region and that this year us > finds more united than ever and com more participation of all the ALS (already > is particular command post the list or by e-mails). > command post second place I do mias the words spilled by Sergio respect to > voting "Yes" to the declaration of ALAC on 1 single character IDN TLDs. > > This subject that we have not even given the due importance him in LACRALO > since until now single we have concerned ourselves with the problems to write > certain letters of our alphabet like ñ of the Spanish, or, ç of > Portuguese. But also tendriamos that to consider if our brothers > of Pérú, Bolivia and Chile wanted t!
o write in Aimará or those of Paraguay in > Guarany. > But if we thought about incorporating the users of China, of Japan, of Korea, > etc.; it is of vital importance when since > their languages must use sequences of commandos to write one > complete word like a single character. And therefore, the voted document > by the members of ALAC supports the recommendation of which 1 single character and/or 2 > characters IDN in the first level and second level in general does not have to be > restricted and that reviews case by case. > > In this document recommends ademas that a panel of experts evalue > requests of individual character or two characters IDN. > > For that they are interested in this fasciante subject, I invite them to listen > in Spanish and to read the transcription (single the next week) of > teleconferencing in which Sergio and I participated day 21 of December > 2010. > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Community+Call+on+Internationali > zed+Domain!
+Names+%28IDNs%29+-+21.12.10Aprovecho the opportunity stops > !
to congr
atulate to Bathtub Dam and Burt Boswinkel by the exelente work that are > doing. > > immediately, > Greetings to all > Sylvia > _________________________________________________________ > Sylvia Herlein Leite > Secretary FLUI - www.fuilatin.org > LACRALO-ALAC Member > Latin America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large Organization > sylvia at internautabrasil.org > > > > > > > > -----Mensagem original > Of: lac-discuss-she is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org ] command post nome of > Presidency Internaut > Shipment command post: sixth-feira, 7 of janeiro of 2011 13:01 > For: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > Cc: carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com > Assunto: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Fw: Fw: RESULT OF THE VOTE:Declaration of > ALAC on single character IDN TLDs > > Carlos and considered members of LACRALO: > > Happy New Year for all! > > Pido excuses by my absence and the one of Sylvia, but we agreed in > vacations in the same date !
and we took advantage of these spaces to be able to do > familiar life. > > I have been a year old very it last from the affective thing with irreparable losses in my > family and was necessary to be able to take days to be ableto find me me with > the affection and the containment of my family. > > Just in my case I will return after day 20 of January. > > Also we communicated with Sylvia by telephone and we decided to have one > meeting of work by Skype to be able to define on this subject that was had > sent to voting in ALAC on IDN, this tapeworm an extra in the definition > because it was a subject where I had not had definition norparticipation > some, since there was a work commission working and was another one > representing that already he had to have participated in the debates that > had raised in ALAC and that commission. > > In the meeting informs Sylvia to me that was a reference totake into account > that was the first document that vote on this subject in M!
ay of 2010 ( > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALA!
C+Statem
ent+on+Draft+Final+Re > port+on+Policy+Aspects+Regarding+Introduction+of+Single+Character+IDN+TLDs >), where Carlos and Sylvia had voted by the affirmation, from that > data we read in the meeting the first report and the resultof 2º work > that became to the light day 12 of December: "ALAC Statement on Final Draft > Report on Policy Aspects Regarding Introduction of Single Character IDN TLDs > - Version 2." ( > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+Statement+on+Draft+Final+Re > port+on+Policy+Aspects+Regarding+Introduction+of+Single+Character+IDN+TLDs >) > > > Without having to object nothing on the excellent work thathad made > the members of this work group and trying in this stage that finds > coherence in the decision making that came making in the LACRALO. > > On the other hand I believe that it is necessary that we begin to have a dynamics of > work in the different LACRALO, with greater participation on the part of > different components from this wonderf!
ul group of wills > organized, since it is important for the region that its representatives > can take to ahead in their opinions the will of the Region and not it > that single the representative thinks individually, of insurance will be some > times that tengamosque to take definitions according to ourcriterion, but goes a > to be good also that we pruned to take ahead the collectivethought of > LACRALO fruit of a fecund debate on different subjects thatare > discussing in ICANN. > > Saludo the initiative of Carlos in requesting information, and comoélsabe well, since > we commented this to him in Cartagena de Indias will be oneof the virtues > comparative of this representative management, single as a contribution to elevate > the floor of internal democracy, participation, transparency and > responsibility within LACRALO; it would also seem importantto me that > can count in our THIN one with a report detailed with respect to > different decision making that was taken!
on the part of ourprevious one > representing (I know that to!
maráun
time to count on it, but I discard that > will be made responsibly and that the same one will be verybeneficial for > community), mainly in its foundation for each one of them. > > Now and until the day Domingo will be being been discussingon the strategic Plan > 2011-2014, nothing but neither nothing the less! > > Would be very good for counting on some contribution on thepart of the companions of > LACRALO. > > warm Greetings > > * Sergio Saline I carry President Internauta Argentina Argentina Association > of Users of Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar>FLUI- > Latin American Federation of Users of Internet > <http://www.fuilain.org>facebook:salinasporto twitter:sergiosalinas MSN/MSN > YAHOO/Talk: salinasporto... Skype:internautaargentina Mobi:+54 9 > 223 5 215819 * > > > the 06/01/2011 09:56 p.m., carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com wrote: > > [ [ - - Translated text (in - > is)--]] > > > > > > Subject: Fw: Fw: RESULT OF THE VOTE: Declaration of ALAC on the sin!
gle one > > character IDN TLDs > > Of: carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com > > > > > > Hace some days, I sent the email down. I have not received any answer > our representatives are the vacations yet or, they are sleeping? > Pienso, at least must say that "we have seen it" > > > > Carlos Dionisio Aguirre > > Advice of NCA GNSO - ICANN > > previous member of ALAC of LACRALO > > In Right of the Businesses of Lawyer - of Specialist Sarmiento 71 - > > 4to. 18 Cordova - Argentina - > > * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 > > http://ar.ageiadensi.org > > > of: carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com > a: > lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org > date: Mon, The 3 Of January2011 > 13:49:50 Of +0000 > subject: [ lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in ] Fw: [ > ALAC-Anuncie ] RESULT of the VOTE: Declaration of ALAC on the single one > character IDN TLDs > > > to our native Spanish representatives of > the ALAC loudspeakers: It wanted if you can give a cert!
ain one > explicaciónsobre its vote, and I make easier, and I!
exceedf
or the users > of the end what average: Single Character IDN TLDs. Pienso,the lacquers that > losutilizadores of the end > needs their contribution in this. > thanks > in advance > Carlos Dionisio Aguirre > > in Right of the Businesses of > Lawyer - of Specialist > Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordova - Argentina - > > * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 > http://ar.ageiadensi.org > > >> > > > date: Mon, the 3 Of January 2011 12:21:18 Of +0100 > > of: > staff at atlarge.icann.org > > a: alac-announce at atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > subject: [ ALAC-Anuncie ]! > > RESULT of the VOTE: Declaración deALAC on single carà to cter IDN > > TLDs > > > > Wanted All, > > > > with 13 outside 15 > members of ALAC that vote on declaración of ALAC on sketch> > > closing report on aspects of the polÃÂtica with respect to > introducción of single carà to cter > > IDN TLDs, we can confirm that > resul!
t is quorate. > > > > *******> > > > asks: You > uses ratificación of declaración of ALAC on sketch > > > closing report on aspects of the polÃÂtica with respect to introducción > of single carà to cter  > > IDN TLDs for comunicación to the process > público excellent of the commentary > > > > número of voters: > 13· Stature of the group: 15· The percentage votó: 86.67> > > > > sÃÂ: 13 (100.00%) > > The Bashir, Sylvia Leite, Salt mines I carry, Evan > Leibovitch DeMohammed De Sergio, > > Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Tijani Horseradish tree > Jemaa, Gareth Shearman, Dewandranath > > Kissoondoyal, Carlton Samuels, > Olivier Crépin-Leblond, Jean-Jacques > > Subrenat,Orujo Rotenberg, > Sandra Hoferichter > > > > not: 0 (0,00 %) > > > > abstains: 0 > (0,00 %) > > > > *******> > > > you can review > results ind!
ependently underneath: > > > https://www.bigpulse.com/po!
llresult
s?code=1508Z3mi38mHÃDdc5Nyb5hh > >> > > we can confirm that the following members of ALAC did notparticipate > in > > votación: > > James Seng > > Edmon Chungkin > > > > > Edmon informó to the members the ALAC the 30 of December of 2010 that é! > > l abstained > > to participate in this vote due to its contract > previous in > > creación of the closing report. Ã0/00l observó mà s far > that él està personally > > of support of declaración of ALAC. > > > > > all the closed votes of ALAC can be reviewed underneath: > > > https://www.bigpulse.com/m7097 > > > > --> > respect, > > > > > Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Seth Greene, Gisella > Gruber-Blanco, > > Marilyn Vernon, Kristina Personal Nordström > > > En-Grande of ICANN > > > > email: staff[at]atlarge.icann.org > > > Web site: www.atlarge.icann!
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