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From: to presidencia at internauta.org.ar

Dear Alexander and other companions of the LACRALO, in case not  
it understood in the mail that it sends primarily, supports a suggestion that  
Sylvia had sent to the list with respect to the one organization  
selection on the three candidates to be members of board on thepart of  
thin nucledas in ALAC, in order that our representatives  
with vote possibility they act with express mandate of our region. 
 
I understand single a way for this type of events within the life  
institutional of our THIN one, which we  come it expressing from  
same day in which we entered to ICANN, there is no another wayfor these types  
of definitions that the one of the mandate to our representatives, I believe that  
it is important that all we are you participate in the definitions that  
they take in our region, and goes that it is important that isgoing away to seat  
in the chair within board! 
 
I agree with Carlos in I diagnose, but not in the methodology, I create  
that serious very healthful that each one can read the C.V. and listen  
audio of the candidates and soon to be able to take a definition by some  
of the three that sets out. Dev already emitted a mail with the data  
necessary so that all we put ourselves interioricemos on them. 
 
Internaut expresses it in each one of his documents when she says thatshe creates  
in the collective subject driving in its means and watching the whole, and not in  
the isolated individual subject and watching towards if same. 
 
Single it is a point of view and I try to be coincident with the position that  
our organization has been coming announcing for years. 
My but affectionate greetings to all and all. 
 
Sergio Saline I carry 
President 
Argentina Internaut 
Argentina association de Usuarios de Internet 
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The 22/11/2010 11:25 a.m., Alexander Pisanty wrote: > Sergio, Carlos, > > are certain disputes that, independently how deep  > motivations move them, can seem too local and personal  > to the rest of the members of this group. The only useful information that  > transmits is that the divisions are very deep and possibly  > irreconciliables the differences (badly a departure point). > > So yes, if somebody thinks that there is to discuss candidates and to treat  > to give to a mandate or a direction to those who is going tovote, is  > wasting the time of all when not beginning to express its opinions  > reasoned on them. > > For that reason the conmino to you and now also to Carlos Aguirre to do it or  > to explain why no, so that we pruned to make a decision. > > Warm greetings. > > Alexander Pisanty > > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   >. . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-!
 55-5418-3732 > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn,  > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   >. . . > > > On Mon, 22 Nov 2010, Presidency Internaut wrote: > > &gt; Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 08:46:38 -0300 > &gt; From: Presidency Internaut <presidencia at internauta.org.ar> > &gt; To: Alexander Pisanty <apisan at servidor.unam.mx> > &gt; Cc: cveraq at gmail.com, "staff at atlarge.icann.org"  > &gt; <staff at atlarge.icann.org>, > &gt; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ ISO-8859-1 ] voting of the candidates  > &gt; to > &gt; ICANN card > &gt; > &gt; > &gt; Disculpame Alexander, but was laughing to me with a mail of science!
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me  > &gt; as of the candidates I prefer? > &gt; > &gt; Sergio Saline I carry > &gt; President > &gt; Argentina Internaut > &gt; Argentina Association de Usuarios de Internet > &gt; to http://internauta.org.ar > &gt; to presidencia at internauta.org.ar > &gt; skype:internautaargentina > &gt; talk:salinasporto at gmail.com > &gt; MSN:salinasporto at hotmail.com > &gt; TeL:+54 9 223 (15) 5 215819 > &gt; the 21/11/2010 11:00 p.m., Alexander Pisanty wrote: > &gt; &gt; Sergio, > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; and your reasoned proposal of candidate by who to vote  > &gt; &gt; says ___________________? > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Alexander Pisanty > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt;. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   > &gt; &gt;. . . > &gt; &gt; Dr Alexander Pisanty > &gt; &gt; UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > &gt; &gt; * LinkedIn!
  procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > &gt; &gt; * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > &gt; &gt; * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn,  > &gt; &gt; http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > &gt; &gt; * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org > &gt; &gt;. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   > &gt; &gt;. . . > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; On Sun, 21 Nov 2010, Presidency Internaut wrote: > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 21:40:40 -0300 > &gt; &gt; &gt; From: Presidency Internaut <presidencia at internauta.org.ar> > &gt; &gt; &gt; To: cveraq at gmail.com > &gt; &gt; &gt; Cc: "staff at atlarge.icann.org" <staff at atlarge.icann.org>, > &gt; &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ iso-8859-1 ] votingof  > &gt; &gt; &gt; candidates to > &gt; &gt; &gt; ICANN card > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt!
 ; &gt; &gt; Very good dear point Carlos (Side)! it wanted to d!
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e debate > &gt; &gt; &gt; on the opinion spilled by our representative Carlos (Aguirre). > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; I am convincing that he is not advisable for any democracy  > &gt; &gt; &gt; to propose > &gt; &gt; &gt; as it forms and way of institutional life "the Aristocracy" (Where > &gt; &gt; &gt; to be able sovereign is in a number reduced of peopleto which  > &gt; &gt; &gt; them > &gt; &gt; &gt; attributes to be described so much to govern as it stops  > &gt; &gt; &gt; to choose a > &gt; &gt; &gt; the governors). > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Nevertheless, I must recognize that I include/understand exactly what says C > &gt; &gt; &gt; Aguirre, but I absolutely do not share its solution to the problem in  > &gt; &gt; &gt; that > &gt; &gt; &gt; we are immersed in the region, we cannot continue thinking that like  > &gt; &gt; &gt; nobody > &gt; &gt; &gt; I inquire nobody must right to participate to think or to give instructions > &gt; &gt; &gt; precise to it!
 s representatives. There is no better form to feel alive > &gt; &gt; &gt; germ of the participation that when we were mistaken,so that that single one > &gt; &gt; &gt; occurs when we are in movement. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; "... Or we created or we were mistaken..." said to Simón Rodriguez, the teacher of > &gt; &gt; &gt; liberating of America Simon Bolivar, whichever reasonhad, I believe that  > &gt; &gt; &gt; ademas > &gt; &gt; &gt; to see the curricula of the candidates we would have to give instructions him > &gt; &gt; &gt; precise to each one of the representatives of our region with  > &gt; &gt; &gt; to be able of > &gt; &gt; &gt; vote, so that they express what most of the ALS we define, is by > &gt; &gt; &gt; that that seems to me very good idea in addition to one practices healthy of > &gt; &gt; &gt; internal democracy, the proposal of Sylvia of which once > &gt; &gt; &gt; we have the time sufficient to interiorizar to us of  > &gt; &gt; &gt; aptitudes >!
  &gt; &gt; &gt; of each one of the candidates we qualify the D!
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 that ours > &gt; &gt; &gt; representing can express their in agreement vote the mandate emitted by > &gt; &gt; &gt; this region > &gt; &gt; &gt; warm Greetings > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; <b>Sergio Saline I carry > &gt; &gt; &gt; President > &gt; &gt; &gt; Argentina Internaut > &gt; &gt; &gt; Argentina Association de Usuarios de Internet > &gt; &gt; &gt; to http://internauta.org.ar > &gt; &gt; &gt; to presidencia at internauta.org.ar > &gt; &gt; &gt; skype:internautaargentina > &gt; &gt; &gt; talk:salinasporto at gmail.com > &gt; &gt; &gt; MSN:salinasporto at hotmail.com > &gt; &gt; &gt; TeL:+54 9 223 (15) 5 215819</b> > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; the 21/11/2010 07:45 p.m., cveraq at gmail.com wrote: >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; This single argument creates I circulate vicious visible... then q no  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; promotes the participation so that there has beenno participation  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; so that the partici!
 pation is not promoted.... It takes to us to less  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; results that those that in a while threw to promote q all  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; participates. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; equal respect I believe Yet that there is to takethe idea from Sylvia and  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to expose the strongpoints of the candidates to discuss to  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; respect and to propose ideas on the best option and ojala in  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; consensus between votes them but it is possible in the list! >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Carlos Side >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Message sent from my terminal BlackBerry&reg; de Porta >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; -----Original Message >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; From: carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Sender: lac-discuss-it is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 21:42:16 >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; To:<lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org> >&gt;&!
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&gt;&gt; Cc: staff at atlarge.icann.org<staff at atlarge.icann.org>;  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org<lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org> >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; subject:Re: voting of the candidates to theICANN card >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; [ [ - - Translated text (in - &gt; is)--]] >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: voting of the candidatesto the ICANN card >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Of: carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Discrepo respectfully. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and due to the participatión of the deficiency or nul of mayority  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; of ALSs in the four last years. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; In that sensé which is the capacity analize participatíon of  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; candidates in each of its last activities like members of ALAC? >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; is looked like me at least pretentióus to think that. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Convengo with the general concep!
 t exposed by Sylvia, but when this one  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; esfollów by knowledge and participatíon. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the majority in the region never has heárd on Sebastian, Alan or  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Pierre. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Ón this stage is impposible that somebody could decide or choose  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; responsably. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; First and before char it or decides is needed participatíon  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; previous and the contract and mayority sufficientof lacralo ALSs  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; does not have. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; My two cents >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Carlos Águirre >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Zarzamora of the wireless one of the device of the mile of from of  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Envoy&reg; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Original Message >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Of: cveraq at gmail.com >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Date: Seated, The 20 Of Nov 2010 Of 18:23:35 >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;:<l!
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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; cubical:<staff at atlarge.icann.org>;<lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org> >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [ lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in ] voting by  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; candidates to the ICANN card >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; [ [ - - translated text (is -&gt;)--]] of in >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: voting of the candidatesto the ICANN card >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Of: cveraq at gmail.com >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; is looked like very opportune and reasonable me its supply. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Greetings >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Expensive De Carlos >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the 19 of November of 2010 14:57,<sylvia at internautabrasil.org>   >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Ã&copy;l escribió: &gt; &gt; consideredto members of Lacralo: &gt; of  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Monday 22 to the 25 of November is período of votación a  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to choose &gt; the candidate who ocuparà chair 15 o!
 fthe advice  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; (card) ofIcann. &gt; &gt;  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; https://community.icann.org/display/DirCan/At-Large+Director+Candidate-Commu&gt;  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; nity+Forum+-+11.10<https://community.icann.org/display/DirCan/At-Large+Director+Candidate-Commu%0Anity+Forum+-+11.10>  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; the members LACRALO that tendrà n that to vote is  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; representing (leite of Carlos &gt; of Aguirre, Carlton  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Samuels, of Sylvia Herlein) and president (Andres&gt; Seat). &gt;  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; of my INTERNAUT of organizacion, always creimos that  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; representing &gt; tendrían that to act by the mandate  there are It  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; spoken with severalorganizations of &gt; usuary of región (  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; members of FLUI, WWW, fuilatin.org) and tambiÃ&copy;n &gt; thinks about  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; same form &gt; is porquÃ&copy; I am writing to li! >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; sta to ask for that habra on!
 e &gt; votación commits of  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; región, so!
  that th
eir members can all (ALSs) &gt; express  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; its preference of some of the 3 candidates &gt;! >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Sugiero orders doodle, initiating Sunday until 20 Tuesdays&gt;  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 22, asídando the time sufficient to analyze the results and &gt;  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; representación of LACRALO can vote según Ã&copy;l &gt;  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; immediately, and in búsqueda of participación of all,  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; volume  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;_________________________________________________________ of  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the license &gt; of sylvia &gt; Sylvia Herlein Leite &gt; secretary  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; FLUI - www.fuilatin.org<http://www.fuilatin.org> &gt; the member  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; of LACRALO-ALAC &gt; Latin&copy;rich Amà and OrganizaciónEn-Grande of  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Caribbean regional &gt;  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; sylvia at internautabrasil.org &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;_______________________________________________&gt;  >&gt;&gt!
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Argentina de Usuarios de Internet to http://internauta.org.ar  
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