[lac-discuss-en] effective mechanisms of participation
cveraq at gmail.com
cveraq at gmail.com
Tue Nov 16 19:20:26 UTC 2010
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Subject: Re: effective mechanisms of participation
From: cveraq at gmail.com
Alx, the PDP always seem to me the part to medular to treat andin which
we must work.
Carlos
The 16 of November of 2010 13:33, Alexander Pisanty <apisan at servidor.unam.mx > wrote:
> Carlos (Side), > > and in that same tonic, which is the subject ICANN noun that more you > worries that we have well discussed for the meeting of Cartagena? > > Alexander Pisanty > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. > > > On Tue, 16 Nov 2010, Carlos Side wrote: > > Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:41:42 -0500 > > From: Carlos Side <cveraq at gmail.com> > > To: Fatima Cambronero <fatimacambronero at gmail.com> > > Cc: LAC DI!
SCUSS <lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, > > "Spanish [ ISO-8859-1 ] LACRALO" <lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] effective mechanisms of participation > > > > > > Then already we are participating and the best form to do it is not to adjetivizar > > the opinions of others. If somebody wants to support with ideas to motivate > > participation we can begin to organize to us. > > > > Carlos > > > > the 16 of November of 2010 12:27, Fatima Cambronero < > > fatimacambronero at gmail.com > wrote: > > > > Carlos, > > > > > > I answer to You between lines. > > > > > > > > > the 16 of November of 2010 13:51, Carlos Side <cveraq at gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Fatima, seems important to me your reflections aqui my commentaries > > > > > > > > > > > 1. We are not speaking of spaces to participate but ofmotivat!
ion > > > > stops > > > > to do it. Two tota!
lly diff
erent things. > > > > > > > > > > > In agreement with which to the space we have it. Now, asfar as > > > motivation, > > > wanted Carlos, is like in the same life. I study, work, bathe, > > > me > > > food, because I have in same me, the motivations to do it. No > > > because the people who live with me it are remembering all > > > time > > > and insisting so that it does it. Here he is equal. The motivations stop > > > to participate, must arise from each one from us, not because > > > other members or representatives of LACRALO is insistingor remembering > > > that we must participate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I participate from the 96 in the international subjects of Internet and > > > > from first reunion pre Icann. Comparti many spaces yet > > > > world and anywhere in the world on these subjects, butfor a time, > > > >!
; like > > > > many, nonencounter greater reasons for summits and other spaces, > > > > and > > > > I think that new motivations are required to continue participating and > > > > is in > > > > what I set out to work then all when we contributed wewant to see > > > > translated our efforts in realities. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enchants to Me that you have all the trajectory that tenés. That affluent speech of > > > vos. > > > Although remembering the saying "the important thing is not to arrive, but to stay" > > > (or > > > something similar), and having the capacities that tenés, you would have to find > > > vos > > > same the motivations to continue participating and to obtain results. > > > I > > > I have all the certainty that podés to make it and even obtain that more people > > > adds/sinks to the participation. > > > >!
> > > > > 3. I believe that to develop politicas !
to promo
te (to moticar) > > > > participation > > > > always is important. A brief one watched to the interchange of emails of this > > > > same list shows it, when the subject of the little one is permanent > > > > participation and the surprise when it is participated in moments of > > > > decisions and > > > > has not before been made it by any cause. > > > > > > > > > > > seems to Me that you are not reading my previous mail completely. I am to you > > > commenting the mechanisms to participate. I am telling the Groups you > > > of > > > Work and invitándote to that you add yourself/sink. Tothat you arm a Group even stops > > > to foment the participation. > > > Your words sounds to complaints and I do not read that you commit yourself concretely > > > with > > > none of these mechanisms to participate. > > > > > > > > > 4. I propose: > > !
> > > > > > 4,1 Hacer a rise of the information that we have respect to > > > > participation in the diverse spaces to initiate the work of > > > > to analyze > > > > the causes of (I suppose) the little participation. > > > > > > > > Existe algun way simple to find this information asi is not a > > > > level > > > > personal at indicative level by I number of participants by session, > > > > event, > > > > etc? > > > > > > > > 4,2 Conducir a mini survey to clarify to us so that the members > > > > participates and so that they do not make it or they let do it. > > > > > > > > 4,3 Establecer mechanisms of compartment of information to assume > > > > commitments of responsible participation. Not always all we can > > > > to participate nor in all the events, sesionres, conferences, etc. > > > > Then > > >!
; > of algun way we can share information and experiencesth!
at motiv
ate a > > > > others to continue participating. > > > > > > > > > > > To all these things that proponés, podés to make vos same. In > > > file > > > of the lists, in the Web of ICANN, AT-Large, in wikis, tenés everything > > > > > > information available like beginning to work. Podés toinvite a > > > people > > > that helps you to do it and that is added in this proposal. To even request > > > which you do not find the Staff, they is for collaborating with us. Me > > > seems that while we do not assume each one concrete commitments, and only him > > > we throw the responsibility to others, we are going to follow with the same level of > > > participation and motivation. > > > > > > I understood that if something I did not like, she could express to me. Although it was better > > > if > > > put to me to work to modify it. That I am doing since they do other!
s > > > members. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Creo reason why I see, that the subject of the participation is I criticize position > > > > that > > > > single two people attends one reunion important callsthe attention.... > > > Then > is not the space to participate the one that makes lack but > > > > motivation to do it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and vos why you did not attend nor formás part of the WG? The invitation is > > > made. This Thursday there is a TC on the Baylaws beforethe TC > > > monthly. > > > You sumás to both? > > > > > > > > > > > > > If few members do not participate they has a problem.If many > > > > or > > > > mayoria does not participate all we have a problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Comencemos to revert it then.... > > > > > > > > > My fi!
ve cents. > > > > > > > > Carlos Side > >!
> &g
t; > > > > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > > > > Fatima Cambronero > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the 16 of November of 2010 11:22, Fatima Cambronero < > > > > fatimacambronero at gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > > > Carlos, > > > > >>>>> >>>>> I would like comentarte that the mechanism of participation anticipated in >>>>> LACRALO so that he is effective, implies to participatein >>>>> teleconferencings >>>>> monthly, in the lists of discussion, the different Groups from >>>>> Work and >>>>> obvious in the votings. >>>>> If vos for two years not participás of a teleconferencing, you have been >>>>> losing the Agenda in which we are working, the consensuses to >>>>> that >>>>> we are arriving, the instructions that we are gi!
ving, the Groups of >>>>> Work >>>>> that is armed, the result to which it is arrived. >>>>> Those are the forms that we must to participate and the mechanisms that >>>>> we want to look for so that she is really effective ourparticipation. >>>>> >>>>> In addition, at this moment we are working in the Work group of >>>>> Showcase of Cartagena, in the one of the modification of the Baylwas of >>>>> LACRALO, >>>>> several subjects in which are open to Public Commentaryalso >>>>> we can think and invitations to participate in different WG that although >>>>> no >>>>> is strictly of LACRALO, also exists the possibility of >>>>> to participate. >>>>> >>>>> In the last teleconferencing of the Work group to treatthe subject >>>>> of >>>>> the Baylaws, lamentably, was single I (and!
Dev). >>>>>
Perhaps >>>>> these work groups were not of your interest, for that reason not you >>>>> you added to no of them. Or perhaps, when not participating in >>>>> monthly teleconferencings or to review only some mails of the list, no >>>>> you >>>>> you are finding out its existence. >>>>> Also a form to improve the participation, is to attend those >>>>> teleconferencings, to participate in some WG and to collaborate already with which >>>>> is >>>>> doing. >>>>> >>>>> On the other hand, if to vos it interests to you to love a Work group on >>>>> Participation, sos totally free to do it, and to summonus to >>>>> members >>>>> of LACRALO so that we add ourselves. It is within your possibilities, >>>>> to present/display >>>>> a proposal, ideas, etc. The motivation can arise from vos, towa!
rds >>>>> all >>>>> we. Then thus all we can contribute. >>>>> >>>>> Obvious, I agree with which Jacqueline says. If we understood the idea >>>>> of which we are immersed in a process bottom-up, the motivations go a >>>>> to come from we ourself, and we are going away them to let request to ours >>>>> representing. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Greetings, >>>>> >>>>> Fatima Cambronero >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> the 16 of November of 2010 09:56, Carlos Side <cveraq at gmail.com >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Apparently finished the initial reason that it motivates the discussion, that >>>>>> was >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> position on the request of support presented/displayedby several candidates, >>>>>&g!
t; >>>>>> enfrio the interchange of opinions. >!
>>
>>> >>>>>> I proposed to settle down mechanisms to foment the participation and >>>>>> subject >>>>>> even is slope to work it, I believe that it must beginwith >>>>>> one >>>>>> motivation from our representatives and not to wait for proxima takes >>>>>> of >>>>>> decisions so that a momentaneo interest arises again stops >>>>>> to motivate >>>>>> (or >>>>>> to demotivate) the participation of many in these instances. >>>>>> >>>>>> Reitero which we can contribute in an organized work group stops >>>>>> to motivate >>>>>> the permanent work. >>>>>> >>>>>> Carlos Side >>>>>> ISOC Ecuador >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> lac-discuss-is mailing list >>>&g!
t;>> lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.lacralo.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> * Fátima Cambronero * >>>>> Lawyer-Argentina >>>>> President Ageia Densi >>>>> http://ar.ageiadensi.org/ >>>>> >>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > * Fátima Cambronero * > > > Lawyer-Argentina > > > President Ageia Densi > > > http://ar.ageiadensi.org/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > >
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