[lac-discuss-en] Voting Director AT Large
fatimacambronero at gmail.com
fatimacambronero at gmail.com
Mon Nov 8 02:54:00 UTC 2010
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Subject: Re: Voting Director AT Large
From: fatimacambronero at gmail.com
Alberto,
I am rereading my mail and I do not see that in no place it hasspoken of
error.
No, we did not receive a delayed information. In my mail I say that through
different lists from ICANN (and in this same list), always we had and
we have the information available.
Also I say that the term that was arranged so that the Thin ones
pronounce was of few days.
http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/b35fa711ç.html and to that information
also we had it all available.
I do not know if everything at last moment becomes. I am not saying that either. I say that
surely we learn to being diligentes, and now I add efficient, with
just a short time that sometimes, we arrange to some situations.
If volvés to read my mail, I say: "In addition a mail was sent to this list
where very few people expressed themselves ". Clear that I sawyour mail where you
you expressed supporting to Jean Jacques Subrenat. It did not seem necessary to me
to enumerate those people.
To which I am talking about is that the opinion of a THIN one is not based on
the opinions of two or three people who did not pronounce themselves either nor are one
responsibility of a single person. One is based on the discussion and on
consensus. And it is responsibility of all we, to participate,to involve to us,
to obtain those decisions.
>From LACRALO we did not arrive at a consensus in supporting to some ofthe people
that we with the three chosen candidates requested our support, or in having left
by the WG, or in not pronouncing to us.
What I am saying, and I return it to repeat in case she is not understood, is
that already it was probably arranged just a short time and wewere not diligentes (and
also I am including) in having a greater interchange of opinions,
debates, to arrive at a decision from all. And my opinion, only my opinion,
as valid as the one of any member of LACRALO, it is that now we must
to have left we with the three candidates chosen by the peoplewho took care
of all the process of selection. Personally I am not in conditions of
to say, we support such-and-such candidate because it seems better to me by such
reasons.
Pensás that was sufiente debates like so that we pruned to make a decision
from LACRALO?
Greetings,
Fátima Cambronero
The 7 of November of 2010 23:14, alberto grove
<asoto at ibero-americano.org>it wrote:
> Fatima, as was the error? We received a delayed information? Of pateof > who? When we interacted at last moment, and we arrived at these > conclusions? To who we must? Everything becomes at last moment? > I answered immediately after receiving this information. But now > we do not have time? Where error is 3l? > Greetings > Alberto Grove > > original -----Mensaje > Of: mailto lac-discuss-is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [: > lac-discuss-is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of Fatima > Cambronero > Envoy: Domingo, 07 of November of 2010 10:38 p.m. > For: Alexander Pisanty > CC: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Voting Director AT Large > > Alexander, all, > > I am in agreement with vos in the point in which you say that we are not in > conditions for making a decision by at this moment not to have discussed > the sufficient east subject, from LACRALO. > > Today overcomes the term to express to us. We already lost our opport!
unity. > Agreement with Sylvia in which now we must focus in the three candidates > that was chosen by the Work group. > > Those that we participated in the different lists from ICANNdiscussion and > we were > following all this process, always we had to disposition all > information and already we knew that those were few days that were stops > to express to us. (Even, and corrÃjanme if I am mistaken, this seems to me that > spoke in a teleconferencing). In addition a mail was sent tothis list where > very few people expressed themselves. > the information is available for all, the debates are available > to be initiated by that has interest in doing it, to the space > we have. It is not only responsibility of the leaders, is responsibility of > all those that we participated in LACRALO to involve and to participate to us. If it does not have > interest, to the people cannot be forced.... > Surely this experience is going to serve all more to us to be > diligentes > (with!
the times) in next situations. > > warm Greetings, > > Fátim!
a Cambro
nero > > > > > > the 7 of November of 2010 21:19, Alexander Pisanty > <apisan at servidor.unam.mx>he wrote: > > > Adrián, > > > > I do not believe that we have discussed sufficient the subject like taking one > > decision at this moment. > > > > Nevertheless if we went to take part seems to me that there would not be reasons > > sufficient to only support to Avri. > > > > Jean-Jacques Subrenat is an individual extremely experienced whose > > conduct is predictable civil, rational and respectful. Itis not bound > > to the world of the businesses of dominion names and its sensitivity to no > > commercial so is elevated as the one of Avri or more. > > > > Its merits as director is widely proven: sense > > strategic, order in the participation, listens divergent positions, > > different syntheses of positions, clarity of foreseeable consequences in > > the implementation of the taken decisions, relations withmanifold > > sector!
s, capacity of execution, and others. > > > > I have worked close by with both in diverse conditions and stages, in > > work groups inside and ICANN (with Avri in subjects of the NCUC > > and mainly in IGF MAG, and with Jean-Jacques in ccNSO Review Working > > Group) reason why I consider to be On guard to express this opinion like > ex--post-facto >. > > > > I do not believe that "sensitivity to the representation"is a sufficient criterion > > for a position in the Directive Council of ICANN. The capacity of > > to operate of reliable way in the organization and to contribute to his > > evolution is as much or more important. > > > > Digo the previous thing without resigning to my already expressed reserve in the sense of > > that is not hours these of the quarter for the twelve to reinventar > > decisions. If we have not had the interest or the responsibility or > > knowledge to debate and to decide something in the long tim!
e that takes > > opened the decision, by ignorance or any o!
ther, no
nencounter > > originating to remove the things to the steam with base in a pair from opinions. > > > > > > Rather is applied to the phrase "that one is the fault, which is the excuse" > > > > > > Andrés, you have left the most important responsibility:a fast judgment, > > perhaps based on still more fast consultations, to decideif this follows > > opened and you highly provide a frame with discussion anddecision making > > participativas, or to declare the dead subject and to stimulate that in > > following we have sufficient information and an active debate with > > anticipation to the decision making. More proportional leadership to more > > participation of the community, inducing it if it does not precede it. > > > > > > > > Alexander Pisanty > > > > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >. > > Dr Alexander Pisanty > > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > > > Tels. +!
52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > > > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > >. > > > > > > On Sun, 7 Nov 2010, Adrian Carballo wrote: > > > > > Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 21:03:27 -0300 > > > From: Adrian Carballo <ainfodata at gmail.com> > > > To: "[ ISO-8859-1 ] Andrés Piazza" <andrespiazza at gmail.com> > > > Cc: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Voting Director AT Large > > > > > > Dear LACRALO friends, > > > > > > thanks Andrés for the em!
ail and the reminder of ours > > involvement > > > in!
this pr
ocess. > > > > > > Both candidates is very valuable people in ICANN, both have done > > > I contribute excellent. > > > > > > This time I believe that we must support to Avri Doria by the following ones > > > reasons: > > > > > > - Avri has one active participación in the Non Commercial > Constituency > > > from months before it let be to chair of the GNSO. Themmemory > that > > > > > deals with one contituency that can well represent the interests of > > ours > > > THIN, in fact if I am not mistaken some in those who participate in this > > list > > > is members tambièn of the NCUC, fact that single sum actions > positive. > > > > > > - Avri is también chair of the Non Commercial Stakeholder Group in > > ICANN, > > > new instituciòn that I am created after reestructuración of the GNSO > > does > > > even of años. > > > > > > - Avri!
is an excellent educational professional and of recognized trajectory > > > world-wide. > > > > > > In the individual I can say to them that it has supported from > beginnings > > > > > "School of the South of Gobernanza de Internet" from principle of the 2007 > > even > > > that we could make the First "School of the South of Gobernanza of > > Internet " > > > in March 2009 in Bs. As.y soon in March of this año inSan Pablo, > > Brazil. > > > > > > Since then Avri to collaborated and participated of active way in this > > > project that stops this case I enunciate it as a example in relaciòn a > > > > > excellent predisposiciòn that has demonstrated to workin favor of > > ours > > > Regiòn and of inclusiòn of users jóvenes in the ICANN process > and > > of > > > IGF. > > > > > > Reciban all a warm greeting, > > > Adrià n > > > > > > !
> > > > > > 2010/11/5 Andrés Piazza <andres!
piazza at g
mail.com> > > > > > > > (english below) > > > > > > > > Considered members of LACRALO, > > > > > > > > In the pasts dÃÂas, lÃÂderes regional of LACRALO we have > received > > > > requests on the part of 2 of the 19 candidates, soliciing the support > of > > > > LACRALO to be incluÃÂdos in última ready of candidates for > > > > posición > > > > of Voting Director on the part of AT Large. > > > > > > > > As it were mentioned in a mail passed to the list, anyone of > 19 > > > > candidates who not està n in the final list of candidates for > > posición, > > > > can be added to the same one by one petición from 3 Thin ones, > so > > > > like > > > > can be observed in the Space for Director of AT Large: > > > > > > > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/DirCan/At-Large+Director+Candidate+2010!
+Workspace > > > > > > > > Both candidates who ask for support is Jean†JacquesSubrenat and > > Avri > > > > Doria. > > > > > > > > Nobody decisión that we pruned to take deberÃÂa to be previous to the 7 of > > November, > > > > on: > > > > > > > > - Peticionar by some of the 19 candidates. > > > > - not to peticionar. > > > > > > > > Warm Greetings, > > > > > > > > Andrés Piazza - Dev Anand > > > > President and Secretary of LACRALO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > In the past days, regional LACRALO leaders have received requests from > > two > > > > of the 19 candidates, asking for LACRALO’s support to include them > in > > the > > > > final slate of candidates for the AT-Large Direct!
or position. > > > > > > > > Ace mentioned i!
n a prev
ious email to the list, any one of the 19 > > candidates > > > > not on the final slate of candidates for the AT-LargeDirector’s > > position > > > > final dog be added to the slate of candidates by to petition from 3 > > Thin. > > > > The AT Large Director Workspace AT > > > > > > > > > > > https://community.icann.org/display/DirCan/At-Large+Director+Candidate+2010+Workspace > > > > > > > > The two candidates asking for LACRALO support plows Jean†Jacques > > Subrenat and > > > > Avri Doria. > > > > > > > > We have to decides by November 7 on to whether LACRALO: > > > > > > > > - should petition for any of the 19 candidates. > > > > - not petition AT all > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Andrés Piazza - Dev Anand > > > > LACRALO Chair and Secretariat > > > > > > !
> > -- > > > > * Andrés Piazza * > > > > www.andrespiazza.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > > > lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > _______________________________________________ > > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > > lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-is mailing list > > lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-is > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > > > > -- > * Fátima Cambronero * > Lawyer-Argentina > Pr!
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* Fátima Cambronero *
Lawyer-Argentina
President Ageia Densi
http://ar.ageiadensi.org/
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