[lac-discuss-en] ccTLD CO
jumaropi at yahoo.com
jumaropi at yahoo.com
Mon Apr 19 09:11:43 CDT 2010
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Subject: Re: ccTLD CO
From: jumaropi at yahoo.com
Good day to all...
Envio the text of declaración on the part of AD Colombia.
ccTLD co
and preocupación of Ageia Densi Colombia
Según
parà meters of the in agreement norm of estandarización ISO 3166 and
to legislación doméstica Colombian, like Law 1341 of 2009, and the Resolución
1652 of 2008, to Colombia are identified to him territorially in the cyberspace
with ccTLD (Country Code Top Level Domain): co, Ageia Densi Colombia sees with distrust that this dominion is transformed into
“dominio comodÃnâ€. Globalización of the different local commercial activities
sólo is permissible if acompaña of one “normalización†that it integrates all
activities of the productive chain. Apparently economÃa of market can
màs that good sense.
That distant discusión on the possibility of
that CO stopped being sólo territorial to become commercial is already one
inescapable certainty. The warnings of IANA (Internet Assignedwere not enough
Numbers Authority) in its report of November of the 2009 on the dangers of
said comercialización. At this moment they exist around 50 paÃses that
they try to reserve to the dominion CO in registries of names that wish to use it
for commercial and related activities.
También exists trade studies that say
with pride that 75% of the people relate co to CompañÃa or
Corporación and with other types of commercial activities. Ageia Densi Colombia
it asks  cuà l interés
público talks about the Ministry of TecnologÃas of the Información and
Communications TIC, respect to the dominion co?
Like
before we wrote down, IANA, has señalado, although not the único, one of the great ones
risks in liberalización of the Dominion co is Captura of dominions
nonexistent by substitución, which is explained in the similarity between
dominions com and co. This situación takes shape enough in the possibility
real, of “escribir†directions registered in com but nonexistent in
co which serà taken advantage of by true “piratas†electrónicos stops
to redirigir this trà fico towards pà ginas of his interés. Según the company that
it administers the dominion, Co Internet SAS, expresó his posición in recognizing that
the possibility of explotación of the dominion co like comodÃÂn was detrimental and
exponÃÂa negative consequences for the security and stability of the same one.
So posición is endorsed with expresión of which proveerà n its greater effort
in implementación of good prà cticas international to avoid that such
situations appear.
It exists
one narrows relación between the names of dominion and público©interà s. Said
relación passes to be much important and significant màs that a mere one
consagración state, that in the Colombian case adquirió relevance in à mbitos
académicos and that now returns to the arena, at moments in which its opening
it widely indicates the imminence of materialización of a previous risk and
announced.
Ageia
Densi Colombia sees with preocupación that documents published by
Ministry TIC very little serves and much except the paper thatis observed of
Advisory advice for the Administración of the Dominion co in definición of
parà meters of regulación. The possibility of arguing to favor or against
teorÃÂas as the Digital SoberanÃÂa and the complexity of the handling of resources like
ccTLDs, happens to background before prominent cases like the one of the dominion
tv. Other examples abound by montón and seem to watch great polémicas in
the case of co although many
want to see it like great opportunities of business.
Ageia
Densi Colombia estudiarà the true impact of decisión to liberalize
dominion co at global level; what promises to be a possibilitywithout precedents
in the Network of Networks, situación can be in one conflicting and with serious
consequences for Colombia, specially as far as its SoberanÃÂa,to which
previous experiences in situations
individuals do not report the best one to him of the auguries.
AsÃÂ
same, this process and new reality, already comenzó to being exploded
commercially, without considering the voice of Colombia, its inhabitants and
end users of Internet. “independencia†in administración of this
resource, is not seen but like an aspect that concerns a single company
prevailed. As he is frequent in Colombia, this type of decisions is banalizan to
to pass anà lisis of vital situations like this, by interés (egoÃÂsta)
of the turn governor. Sucedió in the past (Licenses to Móviles Operators)
seguirà happens now and happening in a future.
RED JUAN MANUEL P
AGEIA DENSI Colombia
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Of: Andres Piazza <andrespiazzagpj at hotmail.com>
It stops: joseluis at barzallo.com; LACRALO Español <lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Envoy: Sunday, April 18, 2010 8:00:21 p.m.
Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] ccTLD CO
Jose thanks Luis to raise these preoccupations...
Already the habiamos done. Gustaria me to have a ACUI position on the subject in the list. Not to see worries it to me.
In the profile of Antonio Medina in Facebook I saw that subio a video recently and abstracts it in pantallazo. Sera this the ACUI position?
http://twitpic.com/1gpeat
Serious good for knowing it
Greetings,
Andres Piazza
> From: joseluis at barzallo.com > To: andrespiazzagpj at hotmail.com; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: RE: [ lac-discuss-is ] ccTLD CO > Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:01:42 -0500 > > Considered > > Our Antonio friend can help us with its commentaries from its óptica > of Colombian user front to which it happens. > > gives a Antonio hand please Us? > > warm Greetings, > > José Luis > > AEDIT > www.aedit.org.ec > > Colón 535 and 6 of December. > Edif. Cristóbal Colón Of. 602 > Telf: (593 2) 2528774/ 2544464 > Fax: 593 2 2564530 > email: joseluis at barzallo.com > Exempt Ecuador > > original -----Mensaje > Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of Andres > Piazza > Envoy: Thursday, 08 of April of 2010 14:15 > For: LACRALO Español > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] ccTLD CO > > > > Considered, > Something we talked in the teleconferencing passed about ccTLD CO !
and many > of us we expressed ourselves on the individual. > > Aprovecho to copy aqui a chain of the ready Internet Governance > Cactus. > > Hay to read the post office of down upwards following the Thread. > > I must say that opinion of Carlos Afonso identifies to me. > > Greetings, > > Andres Piazza > > Forwarded message > From: Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com> > > Date: 2010/4/8 > Subject: Re: [ governance ] privatising ccTLDs > To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, David Goldstein > <goldstein_david at yahoo.com.au> > > > > This may be interesting to many ace it dog serve ace marries study from the > > developing world: > > > > There plows many ccTLD disparities prevalent in the developing world. > > For example in the marries of Pakistan, the official ccTLD for pk was > > to to Pakistani given in the Time of IANA based in the U.S.who there are now > > eats back to Pakistan. The ccTLD www.pknic.net.pk was to under an IANA > > allocation and wasn't shifted to!
the new ICANN contracting.For a > > country of 170 million e!
xtra pop
ulation the following plowsthe domain > > registration stats where only 29557 domains have been registered: > > > > stats for PKNIC > > 2010-04-07: > > domains: 29557 > > nameservers: 1179 > > > > There is to consumer in-confidence in PKNIC, people plows reluctant to take > > over-priced domains from PKNIC. PKNIC only registers domains for a > > period of two years for $25 to domain whereas to TLD for dog be acquired > > only $16 for two years. Each Time the debates on decentralization of > > PKNIC you eat up, PKNIC there are connection in the high upyou please and is > > easily able to revoke such efforts. > > > > When we started raising these issues, PKNIC invited and included some > > of our Civil Society members to its board of advisers and the members > > fell for it and felt under honoured to be included in the board that they > > forgot what the present Internet Governance problems were. They still > > continue to participate in the IGC but plows!
prone to PKNICinterests > > which of course is to very big drawback. > > > > PKNIC there are occasionally broken down in its service with outages > > sometimes to over weeks. Our CS members have started gaining certain > > interests local from PKNIC which were publicly questioned by both the > > and international communities visible ace publicly here: > > http://public.icann.org/node/343. > > > > PKNIC's monopoly cannot be broken through to public-privatepartnership > > between civil society, academy, private sector and govt > > to multistakeholder collaboration. The result is that people plows dwells > > oriented to acquire TLD domains ace to per today the total TLD domains in > > the country stand AT approximately: > > > > Total Domains in Pakistan: 41,380 > > (Source:http://www.webhosting.info/registries/country_stats/PK) > > > > IF we look AT our neighbouring country India, to their ccTLD runs ace a > > to multistakeholder partnership due to whic!
h they have dwells than half a > > million local domains. Sim!
ilarly t
o their TLD registrationsplows also AT > > the same to number: > > Total Domains in India: 559,213 > > (Source:http://www.webhosting.info/registries/country_stats/IN) > > > > This clearly shows that allowing ccTLD's to monopolize to their positions > > in the country effect the citizens of those countries in the following > > ways: > > > > 1. Control not to over ccTLD monopolies > > 2. Access low-cost ccTLD > > 3. Have to buy dwells TLD instead of ccTLD > > 4. Less to consumer choices > > 5. Cost of entry to Internet/Web too high > > 6. Local Lesser opportunities for initiative growth (with respect to > > building local online activities backed by local domains) > > 7. Threat to IDNs and GTLD operations when the same ccTLD operator dog > > influence govt and to other groups to host to their GLTDs/IDNs to under the > > same infrastructure. > > > > Such monopolies have to be broken otherwise ICANN will onlybe > > benefiting to handful. > > > > Best R!
egards > > Fouad Bajwa > > > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 AT 4:37 A.M., David Goldstein > > <goldstein_david at yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > Carlos, > > > > > > Any to register that registers DE domain names dog provide an address, even > if for registrars outside Germany this dog be to headache. Nominet you have no > restrictions I a.m. aware of. AuDA there are restrictions that say for com.au > addresses the person or organisation must have an Australian business to number > from the tax office and the name must have some relationship with to their > work. > > > > > > > And when there plows to over 13 million domains, such aceDE and to over 8 million > (UK) it * IS * much to harder to get your preferred Domain Name than say, if > there plows to over one million (AU and CA). > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > Original Message > > > From: Carlos To Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca> > > > To: governance at li!
sts.cpsr.org; David Goldstein > <goldstein_david at yahoo.com.au>!
> > &g
t; Sent: Wed, 7 April, 2010 10:58:41 P.m. > > > Subject: Re: [ governance ] privatising ccTLDs > > > > > > David, some additional comments below. > > > > > > -- c.a. > > > > > > David Goldstein wrote: > > > > Carlos ET to, > > > [... ] > > > > for Some have to requirement to the premises contact ace part of the > > > > registration process, but this is often easily providedby a > > > > to register. And the given that world's to number one ccTLD and probably > > > > to number 2 ccTLD, DE and UK respectively, allow peoplefrom around > > > > the world to to register domain names in their ccTLDs and the world > > > > hasn't fails in, then it's not too big to problem. > > > > > > Not sure about any restrictions in Nominet (could not find specific > > > policy requirements in their Web site), but DENIC requires to legal > > > German address: "It is possible for individuals or instituti!
ons (that > > > have legal capacity) not located in Germany to to register de domains. > > > There is, to however, to condition, namely that they mustappoint an > > > administrative contact who is resident in Germany and whoyou have to postcard > > > possible address AT which it is to serve documents (i.e. not to mere P.O. > > > box). The administrative contact is then also the person formally > > > authorized by the domain to holder to receive service of official or court > > > documents (Zustellungsbevollmächtigter) within the meaning of the German > > > Code of Civil Procedure (Zivilprozessordnung) and the German Code of > > > Criminal Procedure (Strafprozessordnung). For The reason this measure is > > > to ensure that if any party there are to legal claim to pursue, it is not made > > > dwells difficult for them by having to serve official or court documents > > > in another country, which is often to long, drawn-out pr!
ocess." > > > > > > Not sure about AuDA to either, but!
CIRA (C
anada) does require proof of > > > legal Canadian citizenship or to address in Canada. > > > > > > > The main issue I see is that by opening up the ccTLD means it is > > > > to harder for residents to get to their own ccTLD domain. > > > > > > Not sure about this. Is think it might even become to easier, although they > > > will have to is incumbent on for certain addresses with global registrants. My > > > point is that this "internationalization" just to make money defeats the > > > original purpose of having ccTLDs national ace the realm of identities in > > > the Domain Name System. Otherwise, let U.S. all join GNSO:) > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > -- c.a. > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Original Message From: Carlos To Afonso <ca at cafonso.ca> > > > > To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> Sent: Wed, > >!
> > 7 April, 2010 9:11:35 P.m. Subject: Re: [ governance ] privatising ccTLDs > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi McTim, I dog start by saying: cheap and quick way toget to gTLD... > > > >:) There is to business group which convinces to community (or to their > > > > government, ace I think Colombians have not had the opportunity to > > > > properly and widely debates this) that to their national identity on the > > > > Internet is not to longer relevant and let you take to over and convert > > > > to their ccTLD into to commodity for the international domain market. > > > > > > > > In the marries of Colombia, it is clears strange. It isto country with 44 > > > > million people, relatively high HDI and the third largest South > > > > American economy -- hard to see how this is going to generate any > > > > significant amount of money to benefit Colombia -- thisis Officers' Club of Revol!
utionary Armed Forces from > > > > being Tuvalu. On the!
to othe
r hand, given the size of the economy and > > > > Internet penetration in the country, it is hard to see how a > > > > non-profit self-sustainable operation to keep to their ccTLD in the > > > > national commons would not succeed. > > > > > > > > But this is my view and I a.m. not to Colombian (just to Latin American), > > > > under... But it makes me sad to know that xyz.co not tolonger points to a > > > > Colombian Internet space. > > > > > > > > frt rgds > > > > > > > > -- c.a. > > > > > > > > McTim wrote: > > > > > http://www.cointernet.co/ > > > > > > > > > > Do we have any thing to say on this? > > > > > > > > > > This type of thing would be to fruitful workshop topic IMO. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Carlos To Afonso > > > CGI.br (www.cgi.br) > > > Nupef (www.nupef.org.br) !
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