[lac-discuss-en] Let us give to return the pagina

joseluis at barzallo.com joseluis at barzallo.com
Wed Feb 17 11:41:00 CST 2010


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Subject: Re: Let us give to return the pagina
From: joseluis at barzallo.com

Alexander 
 
I agree with you in having a high-priority agenda, but if it seems to me 
important that also we take the complementary agenda, that is to say, to know 
the rest of subjects that are of interest usuary them to be able to treat 
conjunctural subjects when we see it necessary, since otherwise 
ICANN can classify and limit our participation to us. 
 
Warm greetings, 
 
Jose Luis 
 
Barzallo & Barzallo 
       Lawyers 
 
www.barzallo.com 
Columbus 535 and 6 of December.  
Edif. Cristóbal Columbus Of. 602 
Telf: (593 2) 2528774/ 2544464 
Fax: 593 2 2564530 
Email: joseluis at barzallo.com 
Quito Ecuador 
Original -----Mensaje 
Of: Alexander Pisanty [ mailto:apisan at servidor.unam.mx ]  
Sent: Wednesday, 17 of February of 2010 11:30 
It stops: Jose Luis Barzallo 
CC: ' Antonio Medina Gómez'; ' Carlos aguirré; 
lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org 
Subject: RE: [ lac-discuss-is ] returned Demos the pagina 
 
Jose Luis, 
 
no, I see it in the opposite direction. Not to list more options less but. 
 
Andrés sent 4 leagues to us to spreadsheets of Google that just now  
I could review. They are "of Chile, candy and butter" as we say in  
Mexico: subjects, dates, people, groups. 
 
The list of subjects includes dates of completion of the works that already  
they are you expire, so I understand that it included them only for direction and  
they are valuable but they do not give rise to organize to us. 
 
I propose that we give 24 hours to our elect representatives and  
recognized so that they propose the list to us of 3 subjects that better they conjugate  
relevancia/oportunidad with meaning for us and capacity our  
in order to contribute them, and that for this Thursday at night we are  
working in substantive matter. 
 
Toño Medina, I like your idea of a teleconferencing to organize to us  
but I believe that the difficulty to organize it and the probability proven of  
that there is very little people in her they do not ameritan the work to put to us in  
she. 
 
We are already entering marasmo procedural from a discussion  
initiate... against the procedural marasmos! 
 
To take shelter the sleeves of the jacket and to study, to discuss andto arrive a  
conclusions on subjects real, maeses nouns and. 
 
Alexander Pisanty 
 
 
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
      Dr Alexander Pisanty 
UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico 
 
Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 
 
* My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com 
* LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty 
* Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty 
* Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, 
http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 
 
* They see ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org 
* It participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org 
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
 
 
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010, [ iso-8859-1 ] Jose Luis Barzallo wrote: 
> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 06:53:58 -0500 > From: "[ iso-8859-1 ] Jose Luis Barzallo" <joseluis at barzallo.com> > To: ' Alexander Pisanty' <apisan at servidor.unam.mx>, > "[ iso-8859-1 ] ' Antonio Medina Gómez'" <amedinagomez at gmail.com> > Cc: ' Carlos aguirré <carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com>, > lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: RE: [ lac-discuss-is ] returned Demos the pagina >  > Dear friends > > Tomemos the initiative from Alexander and we work an internal agenda of > priorities our. > > Already we have several points but he would be interesting that additionally to > proposed points we see as more they can interest to us like users stops > to extend plus our participation or relations with the marksor > transparency. It would be important that our representativeswho have more > contact can guide to us in this. > > Would be ideal that with agenda ICANN we are dispatching subjects > finished or surpassed at least partially. > > warm Greetings, > > Jose Luis > > Barz!
 allo & Barzallo > Lawyers > > www.barzallo.com > Columbus 535 and 6 of December. > Edif. Cristóbal Columbus Of. 602 > Telf: (593 2) 2528774/ 2544464 > Fax: 593 2 2564530 > email: joseluis at barzallo.com > Exempt Ecuador > > original -----Mensaje > Of: lac-discuss-it is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto:lac-discuss-is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of > Alexander Pisanty > Envoy: Domingo, 14 of February of 2010 15:43 > For: Antonio Medina Go'mez > CC: Carlos Aguirre; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] returned Demos the pagina > > Antonio, Carlos, all, > > putting practitioners to us: > > 1. educative material what or of diffusion we have generated, by ours > people or in our organizations? > > We can create repositorio of materials that are not in linealready, and one > collection of links to which yes they are it. For example, some of us > we have PPTs in SlideShare, articles in diverse places, etc., of > our own p!
 roduction, and we located material of so diverse sources > lik!
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(many of them in Spanish and Portuguese). > > Was a effort in this direction does like a year in one of ours > organizations members. I do not mention it not to commprometer it but if > can to reinitiate the effort, that takes a step to the front. > > This can be complemented - and be cast anchor - with mechanisms like those of ISOC, > DIRSI, and many more. > > 2. In the subjects to treat, I believe that they emphasize right now: > > to people and criteria for "reviews" organizacionales of ICANN > mandatados by the "Affirmation of Commitments", registry still opened > for the people who must or want to participate. And there are commentaries that > to do with respect to the detailed object of "reviews" and how conforming > the work groups that will do them. > > b. new expressions of interest for gTLDs. is an active discussion There. > Some organizations of the region already have been expressed, among other channels > by adhesion to documents of other organizations like the !
 Committee > the International of the Red Cross. > > This point requires a careful boundary before possible conflicts of > interest. To have interests is not bad; to manipulate the public discussion without > to declare them would not be healthy. > > c. "review" of ccNSO. There is a questionnaire in circulation, > mainly directed to national administrators and a > organizations like the GAC. ALAC and in individual LACRALO we would have > to also declare to us. > > Aclaro that I belong to the Work group in charge of that review. I can > to be useful in communications and I am forced not to prejudge or to slant my > point of view until not having all the elements in the hand. > > Hay many but these three makes specific my diagnosis more, in complement > personal to the order to Carlos and Andrés by its organic positions, of > intersection of criteria "the subject is important" and "itis to ours > reaches to work on him and to produce a collective expression of consensus > wit!
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rtunely ". > > If we do not have organic mechanisms for one or another point I offer > to establish blogs for both. But I believe that there is a responsibility of > the chosen ones... > > Warm greetings. > > Alexander Pisanty > > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
. > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > > * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 
. > > > On Sun, 14 Feb 2010, [ ISO-8859-1 ] Antonio Medina Go'mez wrote: > > &gt; Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 07:42:22 -0500 > &gt; From: "[ ISO-8859-1 ] Antonio Medina Go'mez" <amedinagomez at gmail.com> > &gt; To: Carlos Aguirre <carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com> > &gt; Cc: apisan at servidor.unam.mx, lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] returned Demos the pagina > &gt; > &gt; Creo that we are approaching an important level in the discussion of > &gt; the actions and future activities of the region, thanks to the proposal 
of > &gt; Alexander and to the support that Carlos offers acertadamente (Ageia Densi). > &gt; the Colombian Association of Users of Internet also offers support > &gt; and collaboration from Colombia and is offered to participate actively in > &gt; this process of qualification through the Web. > &gt; 10 acclaimed! > &gt; Antonio Medina > &gt; > &gt; 2010/2/14 Carlos Aguirre <carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com> > &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Alex. Excellent. If your you can be able the tools to do it 
by > &gt; &gt; the Web in "decent" form, we (AGEIA DENSI), can contribute > &gt; &gt; muchisimos capacitadores to that group since we have made an effort by 
to have > in > &gt; &gt; each area of gobernanza (very in special in the juridica basket) to > &gt; &gt; specialistic. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Of all ways and without damage to look for "issue" hookthat is > &gt; &gt; attractive and novel, I believe that deberiamos to approach first (or > parallelly) > &gt; &gt; the qualification in basicos subjects like: as the structure is made up of > &gt; &gt; ICANN, to explain on its different comites, that it does each one, like > estan > &gt; &gt; compounds, (although it seems lie) that ICANN takes care, etc. etc. > etc., > &gt; &gt; since there is many of you lead them regional and titular of ALS`s that if > your > &gt; &gt; them beams that question does not sabran that to respond. For that reason and without damage > of > &gt; &gt; to approach your idea, seems to me the podriamos to complement with a course > dictation > &gt; &gt; for nascent in order that of that way they are integrated in > &gt; &gt; partcipacion and the commitmen!
 t with the task. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Hazme to know your project and we see as we put it in practices stops > &gt; &gt; to begin to give from the ALS`s with capacity outreach that estan > &gt; &gt; needing the users the region. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; a hug, from today a rainy Cordoba, in Argentina. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Carlos Dionisio Aguirreabogado - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18Cordoba - > Argentina > &gt; &gt; - > &gt; &gt; * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 > &gt; &gt; to www.derechoytecnologia.com.ar > &gt; &gt; http://ar.ageiadensi.org > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:15:00 +0000 > &gt; &gt; &gt; From: apisan at servidor.unam.mx > &gt; &gt; &gt; To: carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com > &gt; &gt; &gt; CC: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: RE: [ lac-discuss-is ] returned Demos the pagina > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Carlos, > &gt; &gt; !
 &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; seems wonderful to me your exposition an!
 d would 
make two notes to journey > &gt; &gt; &gt; forwards: > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; 1, we add the capacities of many of between us, and > &gt; &gt; &gt; institutions with which we worked, to produce the qualification that > &gt; &gt; &gt; you propose, and to put it in line decently. Let us take advantage of the possible ones > &gt; &gt; &gt; sinergias with Diplo, the new program of ISOC leaders(of which 
I am > &gt; &gt; &gt; looking for the details to make them public) and other projects > &gt; &gt; similar. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; 2. I believe that we must choose "issue" that is alive to focus > ours > &gt; &gt; &gt; intervention; this has been made successfully previously, if not me > I mistake > &gt; &gt; &gt; in the process of new gTLDs and other subjects. That focuses the attention, gives > &gt; &gt; &gt; opportunity in which experienced people more participate and simultaneously 
it serves > &gt; &gt; &gt; like one leaves from the qualification process when doing patent important > his > &gt; &gt; &gt; necessity and the specificities of the subjects that to take care of. In this > &gt; &gt; would return > &gt; &gt; &gt; to the question of what subject is the one that better combines importance of the subject 
and > &gt; &gt; &gt; capacity of our community. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Warm greeting to all. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Alexander Pisanty > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt;. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > &gt; &gt; &gt; Dr Alexander Pisanty > &gt; &gt; &gt; UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > &gt; &gt; &gt; * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > &gt; &gt; &gt; * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty > &gt; &gt; &gt; * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > &gt; &gt; http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org > &gt; &gt; &gt; * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org > &gt; &gt; &gt;. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . !
 . . . . . . . . . > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Carlos Aguirre wrote: > &gt; &gt; &gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:14:45 +0000 >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; From: Carlos Aguirre <carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com> >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; To: apisan at servidor.unam.mx >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Cc: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: RE: [ lac-discuss-is ] returned Demos the pagina >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Dear Alex. You agree with me in the 3 points mentioned in your > &gt; &gt; mail. That is what I meant and your you reflected it with an excellent one > &gt; &gt; clarity. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; responding to your question, particularly I create the work must > &gt; &gt; to be centered in the qualification of you lead them regional to travez of > outreach > &gt; &gt; which we pruned to do from ALAC, and with the aid of those who like Your and others > has > &gt; &gt; past long anu!
 ses within the structure of ICANN and in all > related > &gt; !
 &gt; wit
h Internet. This qualification (naturally, must count on > commitment > &gt; &gt; of you lead), prepared traera without doubt the greaterone and better > &gt; &gt; participation that the existing today, where you lead them of the single region > > &gt; &gt; limits to participate in questions related to electoralaspects > and > &gt; &gt; of smaller document preparation (mainly), due to that little one > &gt; &gt; knowledge of the questions that treats ICANN. Lamentably much > has > &gt; &gt; that to see with lack of document translation, lack of budget stops > &gt; &gt; to invite to you lead them to the ICANN meetings, lacksof a politica > &gt; &gt; effective of communication on the part of ICANN to the users, and by > supposed > &gt; &gt; also partly by the little will of many you lead to add a 
> &gt; &gt; discucion. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; seems that we must give force him to the accomplishmentof courses in each > &gt; &gt; one of the subjects and using the tools that the Web gives us and that > is > &gt; &gt; many. This estare raising the New Senior Director of > Participation > &gt; &gt; and Commitment the friend Nick Ashton Hart in Nairobi. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Nevertheless this is my humble version (summarized) andobvious podra > &gt; &gt; to have other visions and gustaria to listen to them tous, by then to take that > &gt; &gt; action plan that you propose. I create is necessary that discussion of > I diagnose > &gt; &gt; to be able then to provide the remedy. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; With the participation and as subsequent result arrived 
commitment > &gt; &gt; that ICANN requests to you lead them. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; My two cents. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Carlos Dionisio Aguirre >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; lawyer - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to www.derechoytecnologia.com.ar >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; http://ar.ageiadensi.org >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:48:28 +0000 >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; From: apisan at servidor.unam.mx >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; To: carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; CC: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] returned Demos the pagina >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Carlos, >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I believe that all we would have to agree in: >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&!
 gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 1, to be thankful to all the equipment that lay down in shoulders the task of > &gt; &gt; pamphlet >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and made it successful; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 2, to use the pamphlet; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 3. if we already have one herramiienta that it invitesto work then... > &gt; &gt; pongámonos >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to work, with the same intensity, in the noun. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; In your analysis - and Andrés, the question I also doit for you - 
which > &gt; &gt; is >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the best combination of attention than gives the rest of community ALAC > &gt; &gt; and his >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; leadership to certain subjects with the capacity of action within > &gt; &gt; LACRALO, >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to decide in what we put ourselves to work? >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Warm greeting. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Alexander Pisanty >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Dr Alexander Pisanty >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty!
  >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > &gt; &gt; http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * Sees ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org.mx, ISOC http://www.isoc.org >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * Participates in ICANN, http://www.icann.org >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Carlos Aguirre wrote: >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:17:36 +0000 >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; From: Carlos Aguirre <carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com> >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] returned Demos the pagina >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Friends. Despues of goings and comings as I wanted toshow in my > &gt; &gt; previous mail.!
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this > &gt; &gt; made and now work with that important tool. I create is > sufficient > &gt; &gt; already with the innumerable amount of post office on the subject, 
gratefulness, > &gt; &gt; congratulations, etc. to continue this becomes Spam and 
detrimental > &gt; &gt; for the work that must continue, with other many important things. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the work follows with Studying and knowing on other aspects > &gt; &gt; central, we waited for much but of LACRALO, that singleto do a good one > panfleto. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; hug >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Carlos Dionisio Aguirre >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; lawyer - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina - >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * 54-351-424-2123/423-5423 >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to www.derechoytecnologia.com.ar >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; http://ar.ageiadensi.org >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:35:41 +0000 >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; From: to presidencia at internauta.org.ar >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; To: lac-discuss-en!
 @atlarge-lists.icann.org >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; CC: priscila at internautabrasil.org; > &gt; &gt; lac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org; > &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org; > &gt; &gt; lac-discuss-is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-in ] HEAD OF CATTLE: Folleto/brouchure >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; [ [ - - Translated text (is - &gt; in)--]] >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: HEAD OF CATTLE: Folleto/brouchure >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; From: to to presidencia at internauta.org.ar >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Considered, with respect to last mails which they have been sent to > &gt; &gt; the list I believe that there is >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to make some explanations with respect to the same one. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&!
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beginning > &gt; &gt; (dog be observed >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; this in this pagina where they plows all the sent pamphlets: >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; https://st.icann.org/lacralo/index.cgi?lacralobrochure) I do not > &gt; &gt; understand to that images >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; it refers Fátima. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; for Except the first photo to which it makes Dev reference, and 
that > &gt; &gt; by suggestion of Andrés >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Piazza - said by its spokeswoman Fátima, in our meetings (that did > &gt; &gt; not seem to him good that >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; photo, under that it showed single to parcialidad ofthe region 
working) > &gt; &gt; was changed by this >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to another one in where if there were consensus in the work partyin > &gt; &gt; putting it and which it reflected to all >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; (almost all under that Jose needed Ovid) the membersof the LACRALO. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The same ones were approved by the majority of the members of the > &gt; &gt; LACRALO in Time and forms >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; was when it sent the preliminaries and were not suggestion on that. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 2º) the disposition of the members speaking is not capricious but > &gt; &gt; thatresponds to an to order >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; aesthetic and of layout, since the to greater text boxes were putin > &gt; &gt; with >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; minors, in fact under that text enters the text of our Dev companion > &gt; &gt; (who I arrive >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; !
 outside Time having had sufficient Time to emit it),it was > &gt; &gt; necessary to request to to him >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Antonio Medina Go'mez who trims to their text in order that the text > &gt; &gt; box of Dev enters - >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; for Antonio thanks your greatness and understanding -. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 3) With respect to the image in where it appears Fatimata, it is > &gt; &gt; exactly for illustrates the box >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; of text of the AT Large and not of the LACRALO ace it were put in 
the > &gt; &gt; previous mail - this photo was >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; seizure in opportunity of ours summit and its commissions of work 
-. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I must add that that photo is the "unique one that was not 
necessary > &gt; &gt; to do processing to him of any type >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; under that it was of excellent suitable quality and for the 
preparation > &gt; &gt; and printing of the pamphlet). >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Warm Greetings >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Sergio >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Original Message >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; From: "Fatima Cambronero" <fatimacambronero at gmail.com> >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; To: "sylvia at prontocl" <sylvia at prontocl.com.br> >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Cc: "Priscila Marks Audi - Brazil" <priscila at internautabrasil.org>; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org>; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>; "LAC Discuss" >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <lac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org> >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 7:24 P.m. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] HEAD OF CATTLE: Folleto/brouchure >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Dev and all, >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt!
 ;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; in the first pleases I want to be thankful by the congratulations of >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; all and to give back them, because it is to work which we obtained > &gt; &gt; between all, >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; with the different contributions, observations, corrections, > &gt; &gt; details, >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; etc. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; With respect to the last changes that Dev proposes: >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; - If it seems to me that the to order in which couldbe modified they > &gt; &gt; to appear >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; members of LACRALO giving his opinión/frase, accommodating them by > &gt; &gt; to order >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; alphabetical, I to consider that it would be dwells tedious. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; - I a.m. not in agreement with which the first photo(of the column 
is > &gt; &gt; eliminated >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; # 4 of the tríptico) where they plows many of the members of 
LACRALO, >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; unemployed and front. They PLOWS LACRALO. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; If ace suggests Dev would be necessary to include to photo ofLACRALO > &gt; &gt; in >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; activity, working, in any marries could be eliminated the photo of >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Column # 5 (where it says "AT Large") and where theyplows Fatimata > &gt; &gt; and Sergio, >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; since that photo is not LACRALO. In addition, I a.m.safe (and to 
this > &gt; &gt; not it >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I talked with Sergio) who Sergio does not go to haveproblems in > &gt; &gt; which there am is not >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; its photo. With Sergio we worked to communicate to substantial idea >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; about LACRALO and to their work (and we obtained it with the textof >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; pamphlet), under it does not seem to that I have to me there are some "divismo" to > &gt; &gt; leave >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; in all the photos:) >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; In addition I sent to Mathias to mail to him with the text and the > &gt; &gt; photos >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; original and they plows not these that plows being published. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; With the rest of the pamphlet I agree in agreement and, and 
to consider > &gt; &gt; that >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; it express what is our region. And I agree with which Sylvia says >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; in mail a previous on the importance of "our" pamphlet. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Probably see when we form it and in our hands and we pruned >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to make him act the diffusion ace, we realize there of which >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; we obtained working all to together ones. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Warm greetings. >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; FÃ tima >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Day 11 of February of 2010 16:26, sylvia at prontocl >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <sylvia at prontocl.com.br> it wrote: &gt; What the good news! !
 &gt; Tenemos > &gt; &gt; to celebrate much! Perhaps now we do not realize the great one &gt; > importance > &gt; &gt; that it there are to have this pamphlet under that the community knows something > of &gt; > &gt; &gt; what is ICANN and of which we do in ALAC. Single with Time we will see &gt; > &gt; &gt; real importance when for example we plows able to arrive AT the to diver itself > ones &gt; > &gt; &gt; communities of end users of Internet and they plows united to ours &gt; work. > &gt; > &gt; &gt; All paises that forms LACRALO is being considered since&gt; pamphlet will > be > &gt; &gt; printed in Spanish, English and Portuguese, fantastic! To great one &gt; > profit > &gt; &gt; for the region, and that must without to doubt to the great work that all > &gt; > &gt; &gt; we specially made but to Fatima and Sergio that had oneto U.S. &gt; 
Barbarian > &gt; &gt; patience with the downtimes, the changes of material, with &gt; 
translation, > &gt; &gt; etc. Although also I cannot forget to me the great work&gt; voluntary of > our > &gt; &gt; companion Accepts of Argentina Internaut, which I know very &gt; well that > &gt; &gt; passed tens of hours ace! >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; opposed to compu to give "the phase him" that &gt; today there are the > &gt; &gt; pamphlet and also having much patience to U.S. with all&gt; relaizados > changes. > &gt; &gt; Thanks, Accept! &gt; Greetings to all and I hope that this there amis one of the > &gt; &gt; many works that &gt; we make to together by LACRALO. &gt; Sylvia &gt; > &gt; &gt; _________________________________________________________ &gt; Sylvia > Herlein > &gt; &gt; Leite &gt; LACRALO-ALAC Liaison &gt; Latin America & RegionalCaribbean > AT-Large > &gt; &gt; Organization &gt; sylvia at internautabrasil.org &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; -----Mensagem > &gt; &gt; original &gt; Of: lac-discuss-it is - bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org &gt; [ > &gt; &gt; mailto!
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