[lac-discuss-en] thanks!
presidencia at internauta.org.ar
presidencia at internauta.org.ar
Mon Jan 18 11:38:53 CST 2010
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Subject: Re: thanks!
From: to presidencia at internauta.org.ar
In name of the organization which I represent in LACRALO, I want to thank for the efforts of
Staff, as thus also the one of the decisores of policies of ICANN to consider
order that was pronounced in the list on the part of the companions of Portuguese speech.
Warm Greetings
Sergio saline I carry
Argentina Internaut
Argentina association de Usuarios de Internet
Original Message
From: "Matthias Langenegger" <matthias.langenegger at icann.org>
To: <lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 2:30 P.m.
Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] [ LAC-Discuss ] thanks!
Considered,
By virtue of the great interest that was pronounced in the region we are going to rake
possibility of printing a Portuguese version of pamphlet LACRALO. In case
of which the printing of the pamphlet is possible and to avoidto confuse to
readers, we requested to him to include a warning that, at themoment, the languages
officials of the LACRALO are the Spanish and ingles.
We created a space in the Wiki with instructions to translate a paginaWeb
to the Portuguese by means of an automatic translator:
https://st.icann.org/working-groups/index.cgi?wiki_translation_instructions_
he portuguese
Ojala will serve people as Portuguese speech better to understand than it is
ICANN, AT-Large and LACRALO.
Sincerely,
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Matthias Langenegger
Manager, Regional AT-Large Affairs
For Internet Corporation Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
Email: matthias.langenegger at icann.org
Main Tel: +41 (79) 644 65 35
Fax: +41 (22) 594 85 44
Skype YOU GO: to matthiaslangenegger
On 14/01/2010 17:48, "Aislan Vargas" <aislan at uol.com.br> wrote:
> > Completely in agreement with Jose, Sergio and Andres. Icann not to print itself this > serious pamphlet like denying, rejecting or to not know all the work used of > the Als of Portuguese language that you deliver its attack to be worth in front of diverse > obstaculos that there is in the respective regions. We cannot return the steps and > if to walk ahead. > > Aislan Vargas Basilio > Ageia Densi Brazil > > > > > -----Original Message > From: "Presidency Internaut" <presidencia at internauta.org.ar> > Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 09:52:50 > To: Matthias Langenegger<matthias.langenegger at icann.org>; > <lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] FW: [ LAC-Discuss ] thanks! > > Never I have been so in agreement as now with Jose extreme Ovid... to the saying > by my > expressed by. > Hablamos of strategic plan, participation, the community, of which > usuary > expresses in the subjects or knows of the ICANN existence, and when single we must > to do > !
paper, in where ICANN do not have to do nothing (and if it would have it to do > work and cost is > minimum since one is to translate a document of a single A4 leaf), > opposes... > considered, single treats to command to print something thatalready is budgeted! > As is > problem to include the language of the country that involves38% of the population of > the region and > to 47.9 % of the continent of South America? > Sergio saline I carry > Argentina Association de Usuarios de Internet > > Original Message > From: "Matthias Langenegger" <matthias.langenegger at icann.org> > To: <lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 9:18 A.M. > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] FW: [ LAC-Discuss ] thanks! > > > I transmit the mail to Them of Jose Ovid who has been sent to the list > lac-discuss. > ________________________________________ > From: Jose Ovid Salgueiro To [ jsalgueiro at cantv.net ] > Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 4:16 A.M. > To: Matthias Langeneg!
ger; lac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: RE: [ LAC-!
Discuss
] thanks! > > That is the problem of always by which it fights in my threeyears in ALAC and > I see that not logrò nothing because simply they do not haveinterest in listening to us > nor in our points of view. > > I understand that there is not traducciòn synchronizes the Portuguese in > teleconferencings and meetings of ICANN, we cannot make an interpretation > for each person, nevertheless, traducciòn to the Portuguese of a pamphlet, > that serà by a single time, for a language with 200 million users > potential shines lògico but it lacks the interest of ALAC in fulfilling its objective > to arrive at the users. > > està not requesting traducciòn to quechua, aymara or yanomami > > > > > Jose Ovid Salgueiro A. > jsalgueiro at cantv.net > > > > > > > > original -----Mensaje > Of: lac-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto:lac-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of Matthias > Langenegger > Envoy: Thursday, 14 of January of 2010 05:10 a.m. > For:!
lac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [ LAC-Discuss ] thanks! > > Considered, > > Thanks to offer to translate the pamphlet to the Portuguese. Nevertheless, > lamentably we will not be able to provide the translations > we in the future as Sergio requested. > > the Portuguese is not a language that the ICANN maintains and for that reason, does not seem to us > adapted to use the resources to print a Portuguese version of the pamphlet. > Tenemos Spanish interpretation for the teleconferencings of the ALAC, of > LACRALO so for some of discussions AT-Large. All > declarations of the ALAC so many of official documents of > ICANN is translated the Spanish. We have interpretation synchronizes to > Spanish in the conferences of the ICANN and exists a Spanish version of > atlarge.icann.org although still is far from being perfect.Shortly: it is > possible to participate in AT-Large knowing the Spanish. Itwill be very difficult > to participate in LACRALO without knowi!
ng neither ingles nor Spanish. We would not be able > to offer!
to the
people attracted by the pamphlet in Portuguese suitable remedies to them > to participate in LACRALO. > > Is a lamentable fact that participants AT-Large will have to know one > of the languages that are used in the ICANN to be able to participate in way > effective. This situation appears in most of the forums > international. The experience that lives the italianohablantes, > germanohablantes, people who speak Japanese, Hindu, Turkishis similar. > > Sentimos that we cannot print pamphlet LACRALO in Portuguese and hoped > that understands our position and the reasons behind our decision. > > Sincerely, > -- > Matthias Langenegger > Manager, Regional AT-Large Affairs
for > Internet Corporation Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > > email: matthias.langenegger at icann.org<mailto:matthias.langenegger at icann.org> > Main Tel: +41 (79) 644 65 35 > Fax: +41 (22) 594 85 44 > Skype YOU GO: to matthiaslangenegger > > > ________________________________________ > From: Presidency Internaut [ to presidencia at internauta.org.ar ] > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 3:24 P.m. > To: lac-discuss-it is -bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org; Matthias Langenegger; > lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: thanks! > > Before nothing I want to express my gratefulness to all thecompanions who > was expressed by the death of my father, in name of my family and > mine own one, thank you very much, has been very reconfortante to see the expression and > support of all at the moment difficult you that they have to me > hairdo to live. > > Quisiera to express my adhesion to all expressed by Sylvia and the four > organizations of the Federal Republic of Brazil, !
is necessary that without > delay becomes a pamphlet in Portuguese, we we can do > translation (putting record which this in the future must provide it ICANN) and > that is given form in that language in addition to Ingles, Frances and Español, > since I do not believe that it serves to us to have the pamphlet in Arab, Chinese and Russian. > > Is important that we have material at least in the used languages but > in the region, so that this will make possible to us the future in greater interaction > between LACRALO/ICANN with the End user of Internet. > > Warm Greetings > > Sergio Saline I carry/Argentina Internaut > >.. > > Original Message > From: "Aislan Vargas" <aislan at uol.com.br<mailto:aislan at uol.com.br>> > To: <sylvia at internautabrasil.org<mailto:sylvia at internautabrasil.org>>; > <lac-discuss-es-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-es-bounce > s at atlarge-lists.icann.org > >; "' Matthias Langenegger'" > <matthias.langenegger at icann.org<mailto:m!
atthias.langenegger at icann.org>>; > <lac-discuss-es at atlarge-!
lists.ic
ann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists. > icann.org > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:54 P.m. > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] Head of cattle: HEAD OF CATTLE:Panfleto LACRALO > > > Matthias, > We of Ageia Densi Brazil added already to the raised one bySylvia therefore > externamos our position in off with her. If it is not firstsurely > the Portuguese is the second spoken language more in Lacralo. > Apoyamos this position! > > warm Greetings, > > Aislan Vargas Basilio > Ageia Densi BRA > > > -----Original Message > From: <sylvia at internautabrasil.org<mailto:sylvia at internautabrasil.org>> > Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:11:38 > To: ' Matthias > Langenegger'<matthias.langenegger at icann.org<mailto:matthias.langenegger at ican > n.org > >; > <lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists. > icann.org > > > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] HEAD OF CATTLE: Panfleto LACRALO > > Dear Matthias, > I know it, and is for that reason our great!
preoccupation in being able to reach more from > 34% of the end users of Internet of the region of LACRALO, who there are > east envoy message to list. First so that all know of the importance > of the Portuguese, who in spite of being spoken in single pais of the region, > Brazil; that pais represents more of 34% of the users of Internet. And in > second place so that one considers at the time of destiningthe bottoms > in the strategic Plan and/or the next fiscal year. > Thirdly, is good for knowing that they have requested an English version to be > treated command post the next teleconferencing, we > of Brazil Internaut we could present/display a version in Portuguese without > no cost for the ALAC. > > Greetings, > Sylvia > _________________________________________________________ > Sylvia Herlein Leite > LACRALO-ALAC Liaison > Latin America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large Organization > sylvia at internautabrasil.org<mailto:sylvia at internautabrasil.org> > > > > > -----Mensa!
gem original > Of: Matthias Langenegger [ mailto:matthias.lang!
enegger@
icann.org ] > Shipment command post: quarta-feira, 13 of janeiro of 2010 06:55 > For: sylvia at internautabrasil.org<mailto:sylvia at internautabrasil.org>; > lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.i > cann.org > > Assunto: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Panfleto LACRALO > > Dear Sylvia, > > we have requested an English version of pamphlet LACRALO sothat the text can > to be adopted during the next teleconferencing of the LACRALO. > > At the moment, we did not try to produce versions in Arab, Chinese, Russian and > French. However, pamphlet AT-Large will be available in thesix > languages of the UN. > > Sincerely, > -- > Matthias Langenegger > Manager, Regional AT-Large Affairs
for > Internet Corporation Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > > email: matthias.langenegger at icann.org<mailto:matthias.langenegger at icann.org> > Main Tel: +41 (79) 644 65 35 > Fax: +41 (22) 594 85 44 > Skype YOU GO: to matthiaslangenegger > > > > On 12/01/2010 22:17, > "sylvia at internautabrasil.org<mailto:sylvia at internautabrasil.org>" > <sylvia at internautabrasil.org<mailto:sylvia at internautabrasil.org>> wrote: > > > Dear LACRALO companions: > > We are in time to speak of money... of budgets... > > Hace hours took place the teleconferencing on "Aid to trips" > > of this fiscal year that finishes in June 2010 - AT-LargeCommunity > > Call on Travel Support and Friday that comes 15-01-2010 will take place > > the teleconferencing on " > > strategic Plan 2010-2013 "to 16 UTC. > > > > Is at the moment that we must be very kind and to participate and > > to make know our plans and activities for the future, since if > > we did not pronounce ourse!
lves now and later we want to organize some > > activity or event we will not be able to do it. > > For that reason I invite them to that they participate, but as theteleconferencing is > > in ingles, does not doubt to send their projects, ideas and doubts to me so that > > can show them. > > > > Speaking on this in the organization that I am part (Internaut > > Brazil) and as a result of an investigation that one of ours made > > companions, Patricia Salles, is that I decided to share with all > > community of the region, our preoccupation referring to pamphlets > > ( > among other things). > > In this case in individual I want to call the attention to them on > > wonderful pamphlet that made Sergio and Fatima; and on > > languages to which it will be translated and published. We understand that > > pamphlets of the 5 regions single will be translated to the 6 languages > > officials > of the UN. > > Within LACRALO, single 4 !
ALSs is of Brazil, but those 4 > > organizations represents!
more of
34% of the users and FUTURES > USUARY of the region. > > Reason why we create imperative that the pamphlet also is translated to > > Portuguese! > > Inclusively we of Brazil Internaut commit ourselves to do > > translation, but we needed to know if he will have estimated to print > > the pamphlets in this language. > > Many of you you know that the activity main of Internaut > > Brazil is to make Inclusion Digital, and in our events weobserved > > that we are losing wonderful opportunities to make know > > ICANN, which is ICANN and so that it serves. Other organizations of > > Brazil also is feeling that lack also! > > > > Summarizing: We want to officially ask for to the Staff of Icann pamphlets > > printed in Portuguese to spread ICANN to more of 34% of LACRALO. > > > > Aguardo the commentaries of the community! > > immediately > > Sylvia > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Sylvi!
a Herlein Leite > > LACRALO-ALAC Liaison > > Latin America & Regional Caribbean AT-Large Organization > > sylvia at internautabrasil.org<mailto:sylvia at internautabrasil.org> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.i > cann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists > icann.org > > http://www.lacralo.org > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.i > cann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists > icann.org > > http://www.lacralo.org > > _______________________________________________ > LAC-Discuss mailing list > LAC-Discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss_atlarge-lists.ic > ann.org!
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for > homepage the region: http://www.lacralo.org > > Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emailssent to the list > plows dwells accurate: > http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#a > nexo1 > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists.i > cann.org > > http://www.lacralo.org > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-is mailing list > lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists.i > cann.org > > http://www.lacralo.org
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