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Tue Jun 16 22:08:55 CDT 2009


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From: cristiancasas at hotmail.com

 
 
In agreement the commitment assumed by that subscribes in the teleconferencing of the day of yesterday, referred to the analisis of the document on the necessity of support of trips to volunteers, I come to show my opinion. It is possible to emphasize that this study was complemented as it were suggested with the Declaration on the operative Plan, and in this sense, I do mine the words of the advisoryCommittee of reach on the public consultation related to the processing of a policy of trips: "... We wished to congratulate to theBoard of directors of ICANN and to thank for the opportunity to present/display our commentaries in the public consultation that is being carried out to contribute opinions on the ample one and, simultaneously, flexible, political for trips for the community of volunteers... In this aspect, we wished to thank for the personnel andto the Board of directors by this aid, since without her, the community probably more would be reduced, it would count on !
 less information and, by the way, it would have less participation in the work of ICANN..." (advisory Committee of reach on the public consultation related to the processing of a policy of trips - Saturday, 05 April 2008, presented/displayed to the Board of directorsof public ICANN on laconsulta related to the political processing deuna of trips). - 
>From already I agree with Andrés in which this text of Cheryl, as Sylvia raises well, reflects most of our positions and for such reasonCETIC-AJB, retires the abstention to the document showed yesterday, 15of June in the monthly teleconferencing of the LACRALO. And we supported the mentioned text proposed by the president of Alac, CherylLangdon-Orr, referring to the support of trips for the voluntary members of ALAC. - 
I emphasize in special the method of payment of the newspaper conducted in Mexico - at least as for my Argentina Country in which considered that in some countries is impossible or little practical toreceive international transferences. Let us think that always it must have a method to receive cash during a meeting to face this situation. 
In addition, for certain participants it can be difficult to have to hope to receive the newspaper until the meeting has finalized, since this demands that the participant must confront small expenses by his account and all do not have financial resources to do it. I agree in which the newspaper would have to calculate or to settle down in reference to a certain system with international recognition, that periodically reviews and in that considers the fluctuation of currencies. - 
Another question that does to the ICANN challenge is the quality of the remote access, a previous requirement to allow the significant contribution in those who participates at a distance. Tool that would allow to optimize the amount of trips necessary to concluír documentsdrafted and discussed previously. We wished to stand out that whateveris the meeting model that is used, the attendance to actual meetings is fundamental and, considering the nature human, always it will be it. - 
We agreed totally as far as the expressed thing on passages, comforts,lodging of the volunteers. It is essential that, whatever it is the system that settles down, consider that the rules must be equal for all the people who receive support. 
With the hope in which this declaration is heightened of the power to the action, reiterates CETIC-AJB, retires the abstention to the document showed yesterday, 15 of June in the monthly teleconferencing of the LACRALO. And we supported the document proposed by the president of Alac, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, referring to the support of trips for the voluntary members of ALAC. - 
Finally, it seemed guessed right the expressed thing to me by Alexander Pisanty very as far as which we begin to educate our community, that to date does not know the real subjects of which ICANNtakes care. Let us remember that there is a study agenda that we must retake and discuss in the next teleconferencings. - 
CRISTIAN CASASCETIC-AJB > From: lac-discuss-it is -request at atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Summary of lac-discuss-is, Vol 10, Shipment 17 > To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:55:59 -0400 > > Envi'e the messages for the list lac-discuss-is a > lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > > to subscribe themselves or to annul its subscription throughthe WEB > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > Or by electronic mail, sending a message with the text "help" in > the subject (subject) or in body a: > lac-discuss-is -request at atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Can contact with the person in charge of list writing a: > lac-discuss-is -owner at atlarge-lists.icann.org > > If it responds to some content of this message, please, publishes > line of the subject (subject) so that the text is but I specify that: > "Re: Contents of lac-discuss-is digest... ". In addition, please, itincludes > in the answer on!
 ly those parts of the message to which it is > responding. > > > Subjects of the day: > > 1, declaration Brazil Internaut (sylvia-internautabrasil) > 2. Re: declaration Brazil Internaut (Andres Piazza) > 3, (without subject) (carlton.samuels at uwimona.edu.jm) > 4, (without subject) (carlton.samuels at uwimona.edu.jm) > 5. Re: internaut of the Brazil of the declaration > (carlton.samuels at uwimona.edu.jm) > 6. Re: declaration Brazil Internaut (Alexander Pisanty) > 7. Re: declaration Brazil Internaut (Erick Iriarte Ahon) > > > > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:59:17 -0300 > From: "sylvia-internautabrasil"  > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] declaration Brazil Internaut > To:  > Message-ID: >  > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear companions, > > In the teleconferencing I yesterday committed myself to senda declaration > explaining the abstention from Brazil Internaut... > > is Here: > > > > Sabemos that ICANN from the beginning of the existence of the Thin !
 ones has done and > continues making great investments to make!
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pate and listen to the voice > of the End users of Internet. > > Also we know of the wonderful and untiring work that the president of > ALAC, Cheryl, comes making. > > Our abstention in the voting made in the Teleconferencing, was > the fear of the nonpossibility of participating in the Meetings of ICANN in his > totality when these are made in our region. Since we considered of > vital importance of participating nonsingle in the General Assembly like of > factories that are organized, as well as of the Public Forum; being this the only one > opportunity to interact with the Board. > > and this fear is founded: > > 1) in the reality of year 2008, when the LACRALO could not make his > General Assembly not to be specifically solicitd to be including > in the budget of that year. > > 2) In the reading of page 7 of the following document, > http://www.icann.org/en/topics/travel-support/draft-travel-support-guideline > s-27may09-en.pdf > > 3) And by vague commentary-answer give!
 n by Kevin Wilson whenhim > I commented on our preoccupation in the sense that the representatives > of the single ALSs would have the opportunity to participatein the Assemblies > General and not of the totality the meeting when these are made in > our region. As you can see in: > https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?draft_fy10_operating_plan_and_budget_11_ > june_2009 > > > > Rereading the document > http://www.atlarge.icann.org/files/atlarge/alac-travel-policy-for-volunteers > -24mar09-en.pdf, we see that these points are being considered reason why > Brazil Internaut retires the abstention to the document showed yesterday, 15 of > June in the monthly teleconferencing of the LACRALO. And wesupported the document > proposed by the president of Alac, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, referring to > support of trips for the voluntary members of ALAC. > > > > immediately, > > Sylvia Herlein Leite > > Brazil Internaut > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:07:3!
 9 +0000 > From: Andres Piazza  > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is!
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ration Brazil Internaut > To: , >  > Message-ID:  > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > > > Sylvia Thanks, I am glad that that outside your answer. Notonly by your own position but for the rest of the ALS, the summary he is very clarificador. > Creo that LACRALO must support this statement and I would like that we pruned to make an informal voting in the list, that simply expresses the general consensus of LACRALO. > > Since President I have been able to engage in a dialog withmost of you and allow to say that this text of Cheryl, as Sylvia raises well, reflects most of our positions. > > Alexander Pisanty in its abstention from Even showed its intention that yesterday he is not exactly this something that clears time and effort to us. I did not listen to substantial objections thistext. > > If it seems to them, we can have a consensus to support statement. You will say. > > Greetings > > Andrés Piazza > President of LACRALO > > > From: sylvia at internautab!
 rasil.org > > To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:59:17 -0300 > > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] declaration Brazil Internaut > > > > Dear companions, > > > > In the teleconferencing I yesterday committed myself to send a declaration > > explaining the abstention from Brazil Internaut? > > > > is Here: > > > > > > > > Sabemos that ICANN from the beginning of the existence ofthe Thin ones has done and > > continues making great investments to make participate and listen to the voice > > of the End users of Internet. > > > > Also we know of the wonderful and untiring work that the president of > > ALAC, Cheryl, comes making. > > > > Our abstention in the voting made in the Teleconferencing, was > > the fear of the nonpossibility of participating in the Meetings of ICANN in his > > totality when these are made in our region. Since we considered of > > vital importance of p!
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s that are organized, as well as of the Public Forum; being this the only one > > opportunity to interact with the Board. > > > > and this fear is founded: > > > > 1) in the reality of year 2008, when the LACRALO could not make his > > General Assembly not to be specifically solicitd to be including > > in the budget of that year. > > > > 2) In the reading of page 7 of the following document, > > http://www.icann.org/en/topics/travel-support/draft-travel-support-guideline > > s-27may09-en.pdf > > > > 3) and by vague commentary-answer given by Kevin Wilson when him > > I commented on our preoccupation in the sense that the representatives > > of the single ALSs would have the opportunity to participate in the Assemblies > > General and not of the totality the meeting when these are made in > > our region. As you can see in: > > https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?draft_fy10_operating_plan_and_budget_11_ > > june_2009 > !
 > > > > > > > Rereading the document > > http://www.atlarge.icann.org/files/atlarge/alac-travel-policy-for-volunteers > > -24mar09-en.pdf, we see that these points are being considered reason why > > Brazil Internaut retires the abstention to the document showed yesterday, 15 of > > June in the monthly teleconferencing of the LACRALO. And we supported the document > > proposed by the president of Alac, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, referring to > > support of trips for the voluntary members of ALAC. > > > > > > > > immediately, > > > > Sylvia Herlein Leite > > > > Brazil Internaut > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stay up to dates on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phonewith Live Windows > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119462413/direct/01/ > > > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:27:02 -0700 > From: carlton.samu!
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o: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > Message-ID: <200906162027.n5GKR25H020159 at mm2.icann.org> > > > [ [ - - Translated text (in - &gt; is)--]] > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/40d56921e7.html > --]] > > > > > > > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:31:59 -0700 > From: carlton.samuels at uwimona.edu.jm > Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] (without subject) > To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > Message-ID: <200906162031.n5GKVx5p020185 at mm2.icann.org> > > > [ [ - - Translated text (in - &gt; is)--]] > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/39242bb8c9.html > --]] > > > > > > > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:48:40 -0700 > From: carlton.samuels at uwimona.edu.jm > Subject: Re: internaut of the Brazil of the declaration > To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > Message-ID: <200906162048.n5GKmeWY020445 at mm2.icann.org> > > > [ [ - - Translated text (in - &gt; is)--]] > > > Subject: Re: int!
 ernaut of the Brazil of the declaration > Of: carlton.samuels at uwimona.edu.jm > > Now that Brazil Internaut has retired his abstention and no > provides to an alternating supply to the declaration of theALAC chair, > the university of Indians of the west moves that a formal declaration of > the aid for the LACRALO declaration is sent to the ALAC and > our representatives of ALAC assign themselves by mandate touse the declaration in ALAC. > > Carlton Samuels > the university of Indians of the west > > In Tue, 16 of June of 2009 in 3:00 P.M., wrote: &gt; &gt; [ [ - -translated text (is - &gt;)--]] of in &gt; &gt; &gt; subject: internaut of the Brazil of the declaration &gt; of: sylvia at internautabrasil.org &gt; &gt; wantedcompanions, &gt; &gt; in teleconferencing I trusted yesterday to send a declaration &gt; explaining the abstention from internaut of Brazil... &gt; &gt; is here: &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; we know that ICANN of the principle of the existence the fine ones has done an!
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o listen to the voice &gt; of theusers of the end of the Internet &gt; &gt; also we know of the wonderful work and untiring that the president of &gt; ALAC, Cheryl, comes doing &gt; &gt; our abstention in the voting did in teleconferencing, was &gt; the fearof nonpossibility to participate in the meetings of ICANN in his &gt; totality when these become in our region. Since we considered of &gt; thevital importance of nonsingle that participates! > in the General Assembly has taste of &gt; factories that are ordered, as well as of the public forum; being this only &gt; opportunity to buildreciprocally with the card &gt; &gt; and this fear is based: &gt; &gt; 1) in the reality of year 2008, when the LACRALO could not do his specifically &gt;General Assembly to not being solicitd to include &gt; in the budget of that year &gt; &gt; 2) in the reading of pagination 7 of the following document, &gt; http://www.icann.org/en/topics/travel-support/draft-travel-support-guideline&gt; s!
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rnaut Of Brazil &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; [ [ - - original text (it is) &gt; http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/â6e'925è.html &gt; --]] &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; _______________________________________________ &gt; list that sends lacquer-discuss-lac-discuss-in &gt; lac-discuss-en at atlarge-lists.icann.org &gt; http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en_atlarge-lists.icann.org&gt; > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > [ [ - - Original text (in) > http://mm2.icann.org/transbot_archive/07dã40å5.html > --]] > > > > > > > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:30:36 +0000 (Utc) > From: Alexander Pisanty  > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] declaration Brazil Internaut > To: Andres Piazza  > Cc: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org, > sylvia at internautabrasil.org > Message-ID: >  > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > Andrés, > > with the greater clarity I h!
 ave tried to insist - since I did it energetically > in the teleconferencing of yesterday - in which we happen to substance subjects that > serves stops: > > 1, to begin to educate our community, that to date does notknow > real subjects of which ICANN takes care (something that lamentably was reiterated > explicitly the day of yesterday); > > 2, to let appear like scrounger interested more in > boleto/ticket/billete to attend the discussion that in which we can > to contribute and learning of the discussion; > > 3, to assure that our place to the table comes from the recognition to > contribution and not of a system of quotas, that always will be unstable > in addition to I infuriate; > > 4. TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITIES, WHICH WE SAY TO REPRESENT, like > consequence of the previous thing. > > Ratifico the abstention from ISOC Mexico. > > Cuenta the votes and emits the declaration that these allows you; if you have > a majority, like so, and if no, under personal responsibility!
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Warm greeting to all. > > Alexander Pisanty > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > > ----&gt;&gt; Unete to ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > Participa in ICANN, http://www.icann.org >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Andres Piazza wrote: > > &gt; Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:07:39 +0000 > &gt; From: Andres Piazza  > &gt; To: sylvia at internautabrasil.org, lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] declaration Brazil Internaut > &gt; > &gt; > &gt; > &gt; Sylvia Thanks, I am glad that that outside your answer. Not only by your own position but for the rest of the!
  ALS, the summaryhe is very clarificador. > &gt; Creo that LACRALO must support this statement and I would like that we pruned to make an informal voting in the list, that simply expresses the general consensus of LACRALO. > &gt; > &gt; Since President I have been able to engage in a dialog with most of you and allow to say that this text of Cheryl, as Sylvia raises well, reflects most of our positions. > &gt; > &gt; Alexander Pisanty in its abstention from Even showed its intention that yesterday he is not exactly this something that clears time and effort to us. I did not listen to substantial objections thistext. > &gt; > &gt; If it seems to them, we can have a consensus to support statement. You will say. > &gt; > &gt; Greetings > &gt; > &gt; Andrés Piazza > &gt; President of LACRALO > &gt; > &gt; &gt; From: sylvia at internautabrasil.org > &gt; &gt; To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; &gt; Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:59:17 -0300 > &gt; &gt; Subject: [ lac-disc!
 uss-is ] declaration Brazil Internaut > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; !
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panions, > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; In the teleconferencing I yesterday committed myself tosend a declaration > &gt; &gt; explaining the abstention from Brazil Internaut... > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; is Here: > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Sabemos that ICANN from the beginning of the existence of the Thin ones has done and > &gt; &gt; continues making great investments to make participate and listen to the voice > &gt; &gt; of the End users of Internet. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Also we know of the wonderful and untiring work that the president of > &gt; &gt; ALAC, Cheryl, comes making. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Our abstention in the voting made in the Teleconferencing, was > &gt; &gt; the fear of the nonpossibility of participating in the Meetings of ICANN in his > &gt; &gt; totality when these are made in our region. Since we considered of > &gt; &gt; vital importance of participating nonsingle in the General Assembly like of > &gt; &gt; factories that are organized!
 , as well as of the Public Forum; being this the only one > &gt; &gt; opportunity to interact with the Board. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; and this fear is founded: > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; 1) in the reality of year 2008, when the LACRALO could not make his > &gt; &gt; General Assembly not to be specifically solicitd to be including > &gt; &gt; in the budget of that year. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; 2) In the reading of page 7 of the following document, > &gt; &gt; http://www.icann.org/en/topics/travel-support/draft-travel-support-guideline > &gt; &gt; s-27may09-en.pdf > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; 3) and by vague commentary-answer given by Kevin Wilsonwhen him > &gt; &gt; I commented on our preoccupation in the sense that the representatives > &gt; &gt; of the single ALSs would have the opportunity to participate in the Assemblies > &gt; &gt; General and not of the totality the meeting when these are made in > &gt; &gt; our region. As you can see in: > &gt; &gt; https://st.icann.org/alac/!
 index.cgi?draft_fy10_operating_plan_and_budget_11_ > &gt; &gt;!
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09 > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Rereading the document > &gt; &gt; http://www.atlarge.icann.org/files/atlarge/alac-travel-policy-for-volunteers > &gt; &gt; -24mar09-en.pdf, we see that these points are being considered reason why > &gt; &gt; Brazil Internaut retires the abstention to the documentshowed yesterday, 15 of > &gt; &gt; June in the monthly teleconferencing of the LACRALO. And we supported the document > &gt; &gt; proposed by the president of Alac, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, referring to > &gt; &gt; support of trips for the voluntary members of ALAC. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; immediately, > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Sylvia Herlein Leite > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; Brazil Internaut > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; > &gt; _________________________________________________________________ > &gt; Stay up to dates on your PC, the Web, and yo!
 ur mobile phone with Live Windows > &gt; http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119462413/direct/01/ > &gt; _______________________________________________ > &gt; lac-discuss-is mailing list > &gt; lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es_atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt; > &gt; http://www.lacralo.org > &gt; > > > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:54:24 -0500 > From: Erick Iriarte Ahon  > Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] declaration Brazil Internaut > To: Alexander Pisanty, Andres Piazza >  > Cc: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org, > sylvia at internautabrasil.org > Message-ID: <20090616215451.10194580024B at tomlinson.rits.org.br> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed > > Supporting all and each one the points raised by Alexander Pisanty > > Alfa-Redi abstains in this voting and from > successive votings that they have to do with algun > document or reference to requests of bottoms for trip!
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di.org > > > AT 04:30 p.m. 16/06/2009, Alexander Pisanty wrote: > &gt; Andrés, > &gt; > &gt; with the greater clarity I have tried to insist - > &gt; since I energetically did it in the teleconferencing > &gt; of yesterday - in which we happen to substance subjects which they serve stops: > &gt; > &gt; 1, to begin to educate our community, that > &gt; to date does not know the real subjects of > &gt; that takes care ICANN (something that lamentably > &gt; reiterated the day of yesterday explicitly); > &gt; > &gt; 2, to let appear more like scrounger > &gt; interested in boleto/ticket/billete stops > &gt; to attend the discussion that in which we can > &gt; to contribute and learning of the discussion; > &gt; > &gt; 3, to assure that our place to the table comes > &gt; of the recognition to the contribution and not of > &gt; system of quotas, that always will be unstable in addition to I infuriate; > &gt; > &gt; 4. TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITIES, To WHICH > &gt; WE SAY TO REPRESENT!
 , as a result of the previous thing. > &gt; > &gt; Ratifico the abstention from ISOC Mexico. > &gt; > &gt; Cuenta the votes and emits the declaration that > &gt; these allows you; if you have a majority, like > &gt; so, and if no, under personal responsibility, > &gt; consensus and the shades of the same one that you detect. > &gt; > &gt; Warm greeting to all. > &gt; > &gt; Alexander Pisanty > &gt; > &gt; > &gt;. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > &gt; Dr Alexander Pisanty > &gt; UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > &gt; > &gt; Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > &gt; > &gt; * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > &gt; * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > &gt; * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn, > &gt; http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > &gt; > &gt;----&gt;&gt; Unete to ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > &gt; Participa in ICANN, http://www.icann.org > &gt;. . . . . . . . . . . . . !
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . > &gt; > &gt; > &gt; On Tue, 16 Jun !
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dres Piazza wrote: > &gt; > &gt;&gt; Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:07:39 +0000 > &gt;&gt; From: Andres Piazza  > &gt;&gt; To: sylvia at internautabrasil.org, lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] declaration Brazil Internaut > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt;&gt; Sylvia Thanks, I am glad that that outside your > &gt;&gt; answer. Not only by your own position but > &gt;&gt; for the rest of the ALS, the summary is very clarificador. > &gt;&gt; Creo that LACRALO must support this > &gt;&gt; statement and I would like that we pruned to do one > &gt;&gt; informal voting in the list, that simply > &gt;&gt; expresses the general consensus of LACRALO. > &gt; &gt; > &gt;&gt; Since President I have been able to engage in a dialog with > &gt;&gt; majority of you and I allow myself to say that this > &gt;&gt; text of Cheryl, as Sylvia raises well, > &gt;&gt; reflects most of our positions. > &gt; &gt; > &gt;&gt; Even Alexander Pisanty in its abstention f!
 rom > &gt;&gt; showed its intention that yesterday it is not > &gt;&gt; exactly this something that clears time to us and > &gt;&gt; effort. I did not listen to substantial objections this text. > &gt; &gt; > &gt;&gt; If it seems to them, we can have a consensus to support statement. You will say. > &gt; &gt; > &gt;&gt; Greetings > &gt; &gt; > &gt;&gt; Andrés Piazza > &gt;&gt; President of LACRALO > &gt; &gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt; From: sylvia at internautabrasil.org > &gt;&gt;&gt; To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org > &gt;&gt;&gt; Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:59:17 -0300 > &gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] declaration Brazil Internaut > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt; Dear companions, > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt; In the teleconferencing I yesterday committed myself tosend a declaration > &gt;&gt;&gt; explaining the abstention from Brazil Internaut... > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt; is Here: > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt; Sabemos that IC!
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> &gt;&gt;&gt; continues making great investments to make participate and listen to the voice > &gt;&gt;&gt; of the End users of Internet. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt; Also we know of the wonderful and untiring work that the president of > &gt;&gt;&gt; ALAC, Cheryl, comes making. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt; Our abstention in the voting made in the Teleconferencing, was > &gt;&gt;&gt; the fear of the nonpossibility of participating in the Meetings of ICANN in his > &gt;&gt;&gt; totality when these are made in our region. Since we considered of > &gt;&gt;&gt; vital importance of participating nonsingle in the General Assembly like of > &gt;&gt;&gt; factories that are organized, as well as of the Public Forum; being this the only one > &gt;&gt;&gt; opportunity to interact with the Board. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt; and this fear is founded: > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt; 1) in the reality of year 2008, when the LACRALO could not make his > &gt;&gt;&gt; General Assem!
 bly not to be specifically solicitd to be including > &gt;&gt;&gt; in the budget of that year. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt; 2) In the reading of page 7 of the following document, > &gt;&gt;&gt; http://www.icann.org/en/topics/travel-support/draft-travel-support-guideline > &gt;&gt;&gt; s-27may09-en.pdf > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt; 3) and by vague commentary-answer given by Kevin Wilsonwhen him > &gt;&gt;&gt; I commented on our preoccupation in the sense that the representatives > &gt;&gt;&gt; of the single ALSs would have the opportunity to participate in the Assemblies > &gt;&gt;&gt; General and not of the totality the meeting when these are made in > &gt;&gt;&gt; our region. As you can see in: > &gt;&gt;&gt; https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?draft_fy10_operating_plan_and_budget_11_ > &gt;&gt;&gt; june_2009 > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt; Rereading the document > &gt;&gt;&gt; http://www.atlarge.icann.org/files/atlarge/alac-travel-po!
 licy-for-volunteers > &gt;&gt;&gt;- 24mar09-en.pdf, we see tha!
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points are being considered reason why > &gt;&gt;&gt; Brazil Internaut retires the abstention to the documentshowed yesterday, 15 of > &gt;&gt;&gt; June in the monthly teleconferencing of the LACRALO. And we supported the document > &gt;&gt;&gt; proposed by the president of Alac, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, referring to > &gt;&gt;&gt; support of trips for the voluntary members of ALAC. > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt; immediately, > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt; Sylvia Herlein Leite > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt;&gt;&gt; Brazil Internaut > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt;&gt;_________________________________________________________________ > &gt;&gt; Stay up to dates on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Live Windows > &gt;&gt; http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119462413/direct/01/ > &gt;&gt;__________!
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