[lac-discuss-en] declaration Brazil Internaut

Carlton Samuels carlton.samuels at uwimona.edu.jm
Tue Jun 16 19:30:43 CDT 2009


I agree with both Erick and Alejandro on principle.  But I part
company as the facts dictate. Not only must we talk the talk but we
have to walk the walk.

In addition to the Travel Policy advisory, there is a raft of current
policy advice developments in the At-Large.  The staff has helpfully
placed them in one place on a spreadsheet and included timelines for
action.   For example and in my view, the IRT Draft Report should be
significant.

No need to wait on the laggards. I invite all of my colleagues who are
as weary of the sideshow as I am to demonstrate their disgust in a
concrete way and give us your views on them.  Take your pick.

Carlton Samuels
The University of the West Indies
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On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:00 PM, <eiriarte at alfa-redi.org> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: declaration Brazil Internaut
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> Supporting all and each one the points raised by Alexander Pisanty
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> Alfa-Redi abstains in this voting and from
> successive votings that they have to do with algun
> document or reference to requests of bottoms for trips.
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> Kindly,
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> Erick Iriarte Ahon
> Alfa-Redi
> http://www.alfa-redi.org
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> AT 04:30 p.m. 16/06/2009, Alexander Pisanty wrote: > Andrés, > > with the greater clarity I have tried to insist -  > since I energetically did it in the teleconferencing  > of yesterday - in which we happen to substance subjects which they serve stops: > > 1, to begin to educate our community, that  > to date does not know the real subjects of  > that takes care ICANN (something that lamentably  > reiterated the day of yesterday explicitly); > > 2, to let appear more like scrounger  > interested in boleto/ticket/billete stops  > to attend the discussion that in which we can  > to contribute and learning of the discussion; > > 3, to assure that our place to the table comes  > of the recognition to the contribution and not of  > system of quotas, that always will be unstable in addition to I infuriate; > > 4. TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITIES, To WHICH  > WE SAY TO REPRESENT, as a result of the previous thing. > > Ratifico the abstention from ISOC Mexico. > > Cuenta the votes and emit!
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>  s the declaration that  > these allows you; if you have a majority, like  > so, and if no, under personal responsibility,  > consensus and the shades of the same one that you detect. > > Warm greeting to all. > > Alexander Pisanty > > >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Dr Alexander Pisanty > UNAM, Av. University 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico > > Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732 > > * My blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com > * LinkedIn procases out: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty > * Unete to group UNAM in LinkedIn,  > http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/Â106C0C8614 > >----&gt;&gt; Unete to ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org > Participa in ICANN, http://www.icann.org >. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Andres Piazza wrote: > >&gt; Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:07:39 +0000 >&gt; From: Andres Piazza <andrespiazzagpj at hotmail.com> >&gt; To: sylvia at internautabrasil.org, lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists!
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> ternaut > &gt; > &gt; >&gt; Sylvia Thanks, I am glad that that outside your  >&gt; answer. Not only by your own position but  >&gt; for the rest of the ALS, the summary he is very clarificador. >&gt; Creo that LACRALO must support this  >&gt; statement and I would like that we pruned to do one  >&gt; informal voting in the list, that simply  >&gt; it expresses the general consensus of LACRALO. > &gt; >&gt; Since President I have been able to engage in a dialog with  >&gt; majority of you and I allow myself to say that this  >&gt; text of Cheryl, as Sylvia raises well,  >&gt; it reflects most of our positions. > &gt; >&gt; Even Alexander Pisanty in its abstention from  >&gt; he showed his intention that yesterday he is not  >&gt; exactly this something that clears time to us and  >&gt; effort. I did not listen to substantial objections this text. > &gt; >&gt; If it seems to them, we can have a consensus to support statement. You will say. > &gt; >&gt; Greetings > &gt; >&gt; A!
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>  ndrés Piazza >&gt; President of LACRALO > &gt; >&gt;&gt; From: sylvia at internautabrasil.org >&gt;&gt; To: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org >&gt;&gt; Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:59:17 -0300 >&gt;&gt; Subject: [ lac-discuss-is ] declaration Brazil Internaut > &gt; &gt; >&gt;&gt; Dear companions, > &gt; &gt; >&gt;&gt; In the teleconferencing I yesterday committed myself to send a declaration >&gt;&gt; explaining the abstention from Brazil Internaut... > &gt; &gt; >&gt;&gt; is Here: > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; >&gt;&gt; Sabemos that ICANN from the beginning of the existence ofthe Thin ones has done and >&gt;&gt; continues making great investments to make participate and listen to the voice >&gt;&gt; of the End users of Internet. > &gt; &gt; >&gt;&gt; Also we know of the wonderful and untiring work that the president of >&gt;&gt; ALAC, Cheryl, comes making. > &gt; &gt; >&gt;&gt; Our abstention in the voting made in the Teleconferencing, was >&gt;&gt; the fear of the n!
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> t; totality when these are made in our region. Since we considered of >&gt;&gt; vital importance of participating nonsingle in the General Assembly like of >&gt;&gt; factories that are organized, as well as of the Public Forum; being this the only one >&gt;&gt; opportunity to interact with the Board. > &gt; &gt; >&gt;&gt; and this fear is founded: > &gt; &gt; >&gt;&gt; 1) in the reality of year 2008, when the LACRALO could not make his >&gt;&gt; General Assembly not to be specifically solicitd to be including >&gt;&gt; in the budget of that year. > &gt; &gt; >&gt;&gt; 2) In the reading of page 7 of the following document, >&gt;&gt; http://www.icann.org/en/topics/travel-support/draft-travel-support-guideline >&gt;&gt; s-27may09-en.pdf > &gt; &gt; >&gt;&gt; 3) and by vague commentary-answer given by Kevin Wilson when him >&gt;&gt; I commented on our preoccupation in the sense that the representatives >&gt;&gt; of the single ALSs would have the opportunity to participate in the!
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>  Assemblies >&gt;&gt; General and not of the totality the meeting when these are made in >&gt;&gt; our region. As you can see in: >&gt;&gt; https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?draft_fy10_operating_plan_and_budget_11_ >&gt;&gt; june_2009 > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; >&gt;&gt; Rereading the document >&gt;&gt; http://www.atlarge.icann.org/files/atlarge/alac-travel-policy-for-volunteers >&gt;&gt;- 24mar09-en.pdf, we see that these points are being considered reason why >&gt;&gt; Brazil Internaut retires the abstention to the document showed yesterday, 15 of >&gt;&gt; June in the monthly teleconferencing of the LACRALO. And we supported the document >&gt;&gt; proposed by the president of Alac, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, referring to >&gt;&gt; support of trips for the voluntary members of ALAC. > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; >&gt;&gt; immediately, > &gt; &gt; >&gt;&gt; Sylvia Herlein Leite > &gt; &gt; >&gt;&gt; Brazil Internaut > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt; > &gt; &gt;!
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