[lac-discuss-en] Draft statement on travel funding for approval AT ALAC meeting - 24Mar09

Fri Mar 20 17:28:16 CDT 2009

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Subject: Re: Draft statement on travel funding for approval AT ALAC meeting - 24Mar09
From: andrespiazzagpj at hotmail.com

Dear Sergio.  

It is going to be the last time that publicly refers this conflict to me which, reason why I see, you try to perpetuate. 

Nonalive no dificil moment, but on the contrary, my enthusiasm to workis exactly product of the motivation that to me the confidence and recognition of my pairs produce, among them what it happened to me in the meeting of Mexico.  

My reference towards vos was the possible form most benevolent that itexisted to try to be comprehensive towards the attitude that you are having, of the infundadas acusasiones that publicly you have spilled (confabulación, plot, authoritarianism, robbery, on the part of the Staff of ICANN, members of this Assembly and my person. But most unacceptable of everything: To scorn the work of organizations like mine, and other ALS´s). It tried to attribute it to the dificil momentthat is called on you not to take the reading corresponding. 

And not to have to change to my opinion yours who, until recently, wasvery good.  

The proclamation of my victory soon of the definitive count is not fraudulent (if you consider the opposite and you have tests, you can use the mechanisms that the internal laws of international ICANN and confer), but Official. 

I have been proclaimed in the day of yesterday and in today I have listened to the recording of the voting. 10 ALS´s voted by me, 8 by vos and 4 abstained. The vote of DevNet counts as anyone of the othersand would be unacceptable to prevail to this ALS of its right to vote by an incomplete information in the provisory count. Also they are to your disposition the lists with the calculated percentage and the powers sent by the ALS in the LACRALO list so that you can see them, powers whose validity was not put in doubt in the Assembly. 

It is easy to raise to the flag of the respect by the institutions andthe democracy in the victory. The problem is when in these institutions in his decisions they do not reflect the individual will of one. The good faith imposes to act since I at his moment did. If there are doubts on a result or a fact, to make the expositions corresponding of a way that does not obstruct the institutions and thecontinuity of the work is what it prevails.  

Thus I did, accepting the position of Secretariat, and continuing withthe work, that is WHAT TRUELY IT MATTERS! and making plenary sessions and deprived with you, deciding and consensuando. But at the same time, the behavior of Carlos Aguirre who also represents my association, was absolutely healthful for the assembly. It sent an electronic mail to make sure of the results. The operative delay in giving a definitive scrutiny on the part of the Staff does not comprise, as you insist on alleging, of the stupidity mine nor of my ALS. 

Now it touches to vos. 

Tenés that to contribute much, your companions of route also. I do not believe that the position of President, to whom she honors to me to assume, is the only form to make those contributions. Nevertheless,I am going it to exert by respect to the 10 associations that emitted their vote by me and so that I believe in the work which I come doing and that I can make. 

The panorama is clear and is 2 options. Or entendés or querés not tounderstand. I hope that one is first, but no longer I animate myself to do public declarations weighing your aptitudes since it did it in the past. 

I am not going to return to pronounce to me on the individual in this list. There is much work to do, I hope we do not forget that. 

Greetings  

Andrés Piazza 

LACRALO PRESIDENT  

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Date: Fri, 20 Sea 2009 17:01:24 -0300 
Subject: Re: [ lac-discuss-is ] Draft statement on travel funding for approval AT ALAC meeting - 24Mar09 
From: to presidencia at internauta.org.ar 
To: andrespiazzagpj at hotmail.com 
CC: lac-discuss-es at atlarge-lists.icann.org 

Dear friends:  
As Andrés says well, this is a little while very difficult for all and in special for Andrés that I understand that it must be in favor very bad of this situation after Mexico and celebrate that it finds taken by the good way to begin to work like secretary of our Thin... ahead Andrés! that you will play a good role like our secretary and this is the correct way that we must take all, this is an example of civilidad and respect to the institutions! 

Without damage of the confusion that generated respect to the results of the selection during the assembly of Mexico and an assumption countand or addition and or modification of the sovereign decisions of the General Assembly, without intervention nor control of any of the interested ones, adding an exchange vote that the result.  

Circumstance this that must be showed in the previous assembly to my aclamation, but considering that belonged to a group of votes granted by being able, empowerings of doubtful you validate by virtue of defects formal and material of verification at first (never were thesepowers, nor was control of the veracity and existence of such and their quality and extension) and added to this the allegation of the negligence of the agent chief executive at the time of the vote, and the preclusión generated by the fulfilled and ratified acts, against a presidency that has been recognized by the same agent chief executive. Who developed control tasks, that attended meetings recognizing the exercise of this presidency. Presidency in which I have been put in functions. 

By all it I ratify that it will continue in its exercise and that I will exert the legal actions that by right correspond to defend the democracy, the institutions and to prevent that the exercise of my obligations is prevented, as thus also defending the space that users of Internet we have gained within ICANN, if this thus did not do it, would stay antecedent one a very badly that would make be in danger transparency of management of our dear ICANN. 

I invite to all to add itself to the work and I summon them to all themembers of the LACRALO to begin to atrabajar within each one of the commissions that opportunely registered in Mexico. 
A strong hug to all. 

Sergio Saline I carry 
President 
LACRALO 

2009/3/20 Andres Piazza <andrespiazzagpj at hotmail.com> 

Dear Miembros of LACRALO: 

I understand that we are before a situation in where some of our colleagues feel malaise. And in individual I understand the bitter situation that is called on to him to live to Sergio, to whom I personally consider and respect and by its commitment, as it already mentioned it in many opportunities. 

Nevertheless, the ALAC agenda also continues and the commitments. And LACRALO is in perfect position to also continue with ours to have likeregion, that is to be to the height of the circumstances. 

This mail arrives today at the public list of ALAC and in the next teleconferencing of ALAC our representatives Carlos and Jose Ovid willhave to vote. It would be an important opportunity so that they go with instructions on the part of this assembly. 

And it is a pleasure, we do not lose of Vista that, to be able to count on translations for the Document "Travel Comment". Reason why they can look for the document in the language that wishes underneath following links. 

Let us follow in search of this class of advances! 

Also we have an agenda and priorities in which we come working from the meeting of Mexico, like the division in work parties, the consolidation of such, etc. They are subjects that will deserve their processing shortly. 

Greetings for all, waiting for its commentaries. 

Andrés Piazza 
> original -----Mensaje > Of: alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org > [ mailto:alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org ] In name of Alan Greenberg > Envoy: Friday, 20 of March of 2009 02:12 a.m. > For: ALAC Working List > Subject: [ ALAC ] Draft statement on travel funding for approval AT ALAC > meeting - 24Mar09 > Importance: Discharge > > Ace discussed in Mexico City, ICANN is in the process of developing > its 2009-2010 Travel Procedure and Budget, and it was felt important > for the ALAC to quickly identify its needs and formally submit them to > ICANN. > > The draft document is attached in both pdf and WORD format. > > Please take to whatever actions plows necessary to be able to votes on this > important measure AT next week's meeting. You may forward certainly > it to your THIN lists if appropriate. > > Although I a.m. sure they plows not very good, I have provided machine > translations for: > French - http://alangreenberg.org/ICANN/Travel-F.htm and > Spanish: http://ala!
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