[LAC-Discuss] Res: RE: RES: RES: Votacion del enlace al board de ICANN

Wed Jun 25 11:30:28 EDT 2008

Probablemente sea una interesante alternativa. Hace tiempo que lo viene proponiendo.

El tema es que los traductores normamente no conocen el lenguaje técnico específico. En las teleconferencias de LACRALO es muy notorio esto. Y hace que la traducción sea muy deficiente, aún cuando ICANN está pagando por ella.Saludos Vanda

To: andrespiazzagpj at hotmail.com; info at internautabrasil.org; jam at jacquelinemorris.comCC: lac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.orgSubject: Res: RE: RES: [LAC-Discuss] RES: Votacion del enlace al board de ICANNFrom: vanda at uol.com.brDate: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:26:03 +0000

Gracias por participara.traduciones son un terrible problema. O son hechas pronto pero totalmente imperfectas o delongan demasiado.Sebastien sugerio que elementod de la comunidad sean pagos para hacer traducciones. Yo veo com buena la solucion pero asta ahora non logro convencer "os reponsables por traducciones.AbrazosVanda 
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From: Andres Piazza <andrespiazzagpj at hotmail.com>Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:42:32 +0000To: <vanda at uol.com.br>; 'info-internautabrasil'<info at internautabrasil.org>; <jam at jacquelinemorris.com>CC: <lac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>Subject: RE: RES: [LAC-Discuss] RES: Votacion del enlace al board de ICANN
El documento al que Vanda hace referencia, que hasta donde yo sé, sólo está disponible en Inglés, tiene profundas críticas. En lo personal, pude observarlo y también escuchar las enormes preocupaciones que poseen los integrantes de Naralo y otros miembros de ALAC. Debo decir que me adhiero a las ácidas críticas formuladas por Robert, Evan, etc. 
Andrés  pd: Vanda, el link a veces no funciona correctamente, como (a esta altura) era de esperarse.> From: vanda at uol.com.br> To: info at internautabrasil.org; andrespiazzagpj at hotmail.com; jam at jacquelinemorris.com> CC: lac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: RES: [LAC-Discuss] RES: Votacion del enlace al board de ICANN> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:37:05 +0200> > Estamos en ICANN meeting debatiendo acerca de nuestro futuro. > Review of ALAC. > Importante para nosotros tener las opiniones de todos los participantes de RALOs y ALSs. Entren en web y hagan comentarios acerca del documento que revisa el ALAC. > Abrazos a todos> > > Vanda Scartezini> Polo Consultores Associados> Alameda Santos 1470 #1407> Tel - +55113266.6253> Mob- +55118181.1464> vanda at uol.com.br>  Before print think about the Environment> "The information contained in this message - and attached files - is restricted, and its confidentiality protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and notify the sender immediately. Please be advised that the improper use of the aforementioned information will create grounds for legal action."> > "As informações existentes nesta mensagem e nos arquivos anexados são para uso restrito, com sigilo protegido por lei. Caso não seja o destinatário, favor apagar esta mensagem e notificar o remetente. O uso impróprio das informações desta mensagem será tratado conforme a legislação em vigor."> > > > -----Mensagem original-----> De: lac-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:lac-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome de info-internautabrasil> Enviada em: quarta-feira, 25 de junho de 2008 15:20> Para: 'Andres Piazza'; jam at jacquelinemorris.com> Cc: lac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org> Assunto: [LAC-Discuss] RES: Votacion del enlace al board de ICANN> > la prox teleconferencia será (volviendo a la agenda "normal") el tercer> jueves de cada mês, o sea, el 17 de julio y a la misma hora de siempre.> Saludos, > Sylvia Herlein Leite> > > > > > > > -----Mensagem original-----> De: lac-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> [mailto:lac-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em nome de Andres> Piazza> Enviada em: quarta-feira, 25 de junho de 2008 10:03> Para: jam at jacquelinemorris.com> Cc: group; lac> Assunto: Re: [LAC-Discuss] Votacion del enlace al board de ICANN> > > Excelent news...> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:50:51 +0200> From:> jam at jacquelinemorris.com> To: andrespiazzagpj at hotmail.com> CC:> presidencia at internauta.org.ar; lac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject:> Re: [LAC-Discuss] Votacion del enlace al board de ICANN> > Hi> Cheryl> indicated that she would be liaising with the Secretariats to > organise a> teleconference with the various regions and the Board > Liaison candidates .> I expect there will be a notification to the list > soon.> Jacqueline>> Andres Piazza wrote:> > Sergio, la información supongo que está clara, sin> embargo, tal como > > ya manifesté en la anterior Teleconferencia,´el rol de> LACRALO en esta > > materia tiene que ver no con una "Votación" Propiamente> dicha, sino > > con un Consejo, o con una Sugerencia para ser brindada a> nuestros 2 > > representantes (Carlos y José Ovidio), de modo que ellos sean> quienes > > puedan emitir voto.> > > > Si bien el período para validar> nominaciones no concluyó, los > > candidatos oficiales aprobados pueden ser> apoyados, consultados, o no > > en LACRALO.> > > > Es más, mi propuesta en> la Teleconferencia fue replicar el esquema que > > tuvimos en Puerto Rico,> pudiendo escuchar a los candidatos, > > interrogarlos y deliberar> posteriormente para arribar a un consenso.> > > > Para la próxima> conferencia debieramos tratar este tema en la agenda.> > > > Saludos> > > >> Andrés> > > > pd: Dear Carlton, when is the next LACRALO teleconference, in> order to > > plan ir making that discussion?> >> >> > > >> >> > > Date: Tue,> 24 Jun 2008 16:57:32 +0200> > > From: jam at jacquelinemorris.com> > > To:> presidencia at internauta.org.ar> > > CC: lac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>> > > Subject: Re: [LAC-Discuss] Votacion del enlace al board de ICANN> > >> >> > From the meeting> > > Official candidates - Wendy Seltzer (USA, current> Board Liaison) and> > > Beau Brendler (USA, Current ALAC member)> > >> Jacqueline> > > presidencia Internauta wrote:> > > > Carlos, gracias por la> informacion!!!! quienes son realmente los dos> > > > nominados???? wendy y> breu? o wendy y Sebastian?, hasta cuando > > tenemos> > > > tiempo de> participar? por favor aclara asi enviamos nuestro voto.> > > > Sergio> Salinas Porto> > > > Presidente> > > > Asoc. Internauta> > > > Usuarios de> Internet> > > > Republica Argentina> > > > http://internauta.org.ar> <http://internauta.org.ar/>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 2008/6/24 Jacqueline> A. Morris <jam at jacquelinemorris.com> > > >> <mailto:jam at jacquelinemorris.com>>:> > > >> > > > Hi Carlos> > > > You seem> to have totally misunderstood what I said.> > > > What I said is that we> have as far as I know, 2 valid nominations> > > > (Wendy> > > > and Beau) -> the nomination for Sebastien B.was, it appears from> > > > discussion on the> list, invalid. BUT the Chair should send out an> > > > email> > > > saying -> these are the valid nominees, and then the regions will know> > > > for sure> who are the nominees to vote for. Beau was nominated and I> > > > believe> his nomination was valid, but you left him out of your> > > > list and> > >> > you added Sebastian (I think this would be Sebas from Argentina?),> > > >> but I> > > > haven't seen any nomination for him.> > > > So my proposal is> to wait for the official announcement of WHO the> > > > candidates are> before asking people to comment and LACRALO to give you> > > > instructions> on how to vote. Suppose based on your email they gave you> > > >> instructions to vote for Sebastian, and he's not even up for the> > > >> election? Beau would certainly have grounds to complain if his name> > > >> wasn't even put up for LACRALO to consider.> > > >> > > > The election is> not due by the byelaws for a considerable time yet,> > > > nominations just> closed, there's no rush.> > > > Jacqueline> > > >> > > > carlos aguirre> wrote:> > > > > Dear Jacqueline:> > > > >> > > > > We are LACRALO> representatives, and we have nothing to do if first,> > > > > our RALO> decide what we have to do. Instruccions or at least a few> > > > > comments> by ALS`s, are neccesary for us before that. for this I sent> > > > > the> email with some previous time.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Carlos Dionisio> Aguirre> > > > >> > > > > abogado - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba -> Argentina -> > > > > *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423> > > > >> www.sitioderecho.com.ar <http://www.sitioderecho.com.ar/>> > > >> <http://www.sitioderecho.com.ar/>> > > > > www.densi.com.ar> <http://www.densi.com.ar/>> > > > <http://www.densi.com.ar/>> > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:22:26 +0200> > > > > > From:> jam at jacquelinemorris.com <mailto:jam at jacquelinemorris.com>> > > > > > To:> carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com> > > > <mailto:carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com>> > >> > > > CC: lac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > >> <mailto:lac-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>> > > > > > Subject: Re:> [LAC-Discuss] Votacion del enlace al board de ICANN> > > > > >> > > > > >> Carlos> > > > > > Beau Brendler and Wendy Seltzer are the nominees> currently> > > > standing for> > > > > > election, from the nominations to> the list. But we should> > > > probably wait> > > > > > for the ALAC Chair> to officially announce the names and open the> > > > > > discussion period.>> > > > > > Jacqueline> > > > > > carlos aguirre wrote:> > > > > > > Jose y> yo: pedimos nos envien sus comentarios a fin de la> > > > votacion> > > > >> que se planteara para elegir al enlace al board de ICANN,> > > >> actualmente> > > > > como Uds. saben es Wendy Seltzer y en su eleccion hace> un año> > > > colaboro> > > > > con su voto el LACRALO (que previamente> habia decidido x> > > > unanimidad de> > > > > las ALS su designacion). Hoy> los nominados son Wendy repitiendo y> > > > > Sebastian Bachollet.> agradecemos su pronta respuesta a fin de hacer> > > > > nuestro voto en tal> sentido.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Carlos Dionisio Aguirre> > > > > > >> abogado - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina -> > > > > > >> *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423> > > > > > > www.sitioderecho.com.ar> <http://www.sitioderecho.com.ar/>> > > > > > > www.densi.com.ar> <http://www.densi.com.ar/>> > > > > > >> > > >> _________________________________________________________________> > > > > >> > Ingresá ya a MSN Deportes y enterate de las últimas> > > > novedades del>> > > > > mundo deportivo.> > > > > > > http://msn.foxsports.com/fslasc/> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________> > > > > > >> LAC-Discuss mailing list> > > > > > > LAC-Discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org> >> > > <mailto:LAC-Discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>> > > > > > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss_atlarge-lists.ic> ann.org> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Homepage for the region:> http://www.lacralo.org> > > > <http://www.lacralo.org/>> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > Posting guidelines to ensure machine translations of emails sent> > >> > > to the list are more accurate:> > > > >> > > > > >> http://www.funredes.org/mistica/english/emec/method_emec/presentation.html#a> nexo1> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------> >> > > > ¿Aburrido? 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