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    <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Hi Yrjo. I would
        attend such a call -- depending on the date and time.</font></p>
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    <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Marita <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/16/2019 11:39 PM, Yrjö Länsipuro
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        Dear CPWG members,</div>
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        Please indicate whether you would like to participate in an
        intersessional call with interested GAC members on policy
        cooperation (discussed on the CPWG call 28 August, see summary
        below) before ICABB66.
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        Best,</div>
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        Yrjö<br>
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            Länsipuro <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:yrjo_lansipuro@hotmail.com"><yrjo_lansipuro@hotmail.com></a><br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 6, 2019 4:57 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cpwg@icann.org">cpwg@icann.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cpwg@icann.org"><cpwg@icann.org></a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Cooperation with the GAC</font>
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            <span style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">Dear
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              <span style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">With
                my thanks to all who participated in the discussion on
                policy cooperation with the GAC at</span><span
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              </span><span
                style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">the
                CPWG meeting</span><span
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              </span><span
                style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">28
                August, here’s my summary:</span></p>
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              <li><span style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">Cooperation
                  was seen as useful and expanding it into policy areas
                  worth exploring, looking for issues where we agree and
                  can find common interests.</span><span
                  style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif"> 
                </span><span
                  style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">“How
                  and where can the interests of the end users benefit
                  from this cooperation”
                </span><span
                  style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><span
                  style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">was
                  suggested as a criterion to inform us about topics to
                  embark on. Addressing issues where the opinions of</span><span
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                </span><span
                  style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">the
                  two groups are already close</span><span
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                </span><span
                  style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">to
                  each other is to be preferred.
                </span><span
                  style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><span
                  style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">Trying
                  to convince each other on issues we disagree upon is
                  not a good use of our time.</span></li>
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              <li><span style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">The
                  need to retain our identity and to avoid perceptions
                  of our being “an arm” of another stakeholder group was
                  stressed.</span><span
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                </span><span
                  style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">On
                  the other hand, when our ideas with another group do
                  align, we should not shy away from saying we agree
                  with them.
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              <li><span style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">As
                  to concrete issues for the policy dialogue with the
                  GAC,
                </span><span
                  style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><span
                  style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">the
                  ones that already have been subject to discussions at
                  numerous joint ALAC-GAC meetings – EPDP and SubPro –
                  were mentioned. As a third topic, survival of
                  multistakeholderism in the ICANN context was
                  suggested.
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              <li><span style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">On
                  SubPro,</span><span
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                </span><span
                  style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">a
                  couple of paths for dialogue came up:</span></li>
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                <li><span
                    style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">GeoNames
                    where (in spite of the lack of consensus both inside
                    At-Large and the GAC), it might be worth exploring
                    the extent to the overlap , the subset of issues
                    that both might agree upon.</span><span
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                  </span><span
                    style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">In
                    this connection, the default role of the 2012 AGB
                    was mentioned, whether going back to it on many
                    issues would be preferable compared to alternatives
                    that have been proposed.
                  </span></li>
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                <li><span
                    style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><span
                    style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">Global
                    public interests and safeguards (highly regulated
                    sectors, verified TLD’s, registration restrictions,
                    DNS abuse).</span><span
                    style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif"> 
                  </span><span
                    style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><span
                    style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">This
                    topic would include whether SubPro PDP has properly
                    addressed the CCT recommendations that need to be
                    implemented before another new gTLD round.</span></li>
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              <li><span style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif">The
                  need for “getting our own act together” was recognized
                  on issues where there is no internal ALAC/At-Large
                  consensus
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                  style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><span
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                  present.
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            <div>Best,</div>
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            <div>Yrjö<br>
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