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g@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [GTLD-WG] [CPWG] [registration-issues-wg] Discussion: End-users definition from At-large perspective<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Nadira, <br><br>One of the problems we face is that we continually use the term "Internet Users" or "Internet End-Users". I am guilty of it myself. <br><br>But that is NOT the term used in the ICANN Bylaws to describe our focus audience. The Bylaws talk about "Individual Internet users". The word "Individual" is key, because it says our focus is on Internet Users (pretty much everyone who touches an Internet connected device) who are "Individuals" - those who are using the Internet purely on their own "individual" behalf. It excludes those who are using the Internet on behalf of an employers, or as part of running a business.<br><br>Does this help?<br><br>Regards, Alan<br><br>At 07/08/2019 04:31 AM, Nadira Alaraj wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I created a New thread to the discussion of a definition of end-users avoiding the distraction of the flow of the new gtlds application support thread.<br><br>@Evan, thank you for sharing your perspective onthe end-user definition. <br>From my perspective still many  words need to be defined as well such as "everyone" "provides services"  because they are so broad and include many things.<br>Better to wait for Jonathan to bring it up (I also copied Jonathan email here) so everyone's voice could be heard.<br><br>Best wishes,<br>Nadira <br><br>---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <b>Jonathan Zuck</b> <<a href="mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org"> JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org</a>><br>Date: Wed, Aug 7, 2019, 10:48<br>Subject: Re: [GTLD-WG] [CPWG] New gTLD Applicant Support - improve it, or scrap it?<br>To: Maureen Hilyard <<a href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com"> maureen.hilyard@gmail.com</a>>, Nadira Alaraj <<a href="mailto:nadira.araj@gmail.com">nadira.araj@gmail.com</a> ><br>Cc: CPWG <<a href="mailto:cpwg@icann.org">cpwg@icann.org</a>><br><br><br>I’ve been working on that very thing and hope eventually to bring it up on the CPWG call. ðŸ˜‰<br><br><br>On Wed, Aug 7, 2019, 10:49 Evan Leibovitch <<a href="mailto:evan@telly.org">evan@telly.org</a>> wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'>On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 at 02:24, Nadira Alaraj <<a href="mailto:nadira.araj@gmail.com">nadira.araj@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'>Please can anyone lead me to the definition of "end-users" from the At-large perspective?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'>What has guided me well is simply this:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'>"An Internet end-user is anyone who obtains or provides services, or otherwise communicates with others, using the Internet."<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'>Maybe it could be refined a bit but this works for most instances I can think of.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'>- Evan<br><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'>I don't want to dwell into what I heard At-large end-users could be because I might be misinformed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'>Having such definition makes the many discussions I've been reading since I joined At-large of greater focus.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'>If there are no end-user definition for AT-large, I suggest to add this on the agenda item for ATLAS III.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Best wishes to all,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'>Nadira <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>CPWG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:CPWG@icann.org">CPWG@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>By submitting your personal da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