[EURO-Discuss] R: Decertification of EURALO ALSes

Michele Neylon - Blacknight michele at blacknight.com
Tue Jun 3 09:50:42 UTC 2014


I'm not a member,  so I can't really have an opinion .. 

But if I did, I'd support Wolf's stance



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-----Original Message-----
From: euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of William Drake
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 10:18 AM
To: Roberto Gaetano
Cc: Euralo; At-Large Staff
Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] R: Decertification of EURALO ALSes

I strongly agree with Roberto here and support Wolf's stance.

Bill

On Jun 3, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I strongly support Wolf.
> I believe that it is not incumbent on the Chair to run after members 
> who show little interest in participating: he is spending enough time 
> in coordinating the work of the members who do participate, in order 
> to get results for the benefit of ALAC.
> Cheers,
> R.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> -----Messaggio originale-----
>> Da: euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org 
>> [mailto:euro-discuss- bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] Per conto di 
>> Wolf Ludwig
>> Inviato: domenica 1 giugno 2014 18:20
>> A: W. Hülsmann (DVD e.V.); Discussion for At-Large Europe
>> Cc: At-Large Staff
>> Oggetto: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Decertification of EURALO ALSes
>> 
>> Hello Werner,
>> 
>> thanks for the hint. The point is: over the last years I spent lots 
>> of
> hours (of
>> my volunteer's time BTW) to run behind such candidates and pushing 
>> them for GAs, regional consultations and the like. In 2011 (!) the 
>> previous
> contact
>> point (Heike Jensen) got unsubscribed from the EURALO list without 
>> caring for a replacement or "hand over". And in the time between, 
>> Terre des femmes indicated NO interest for their involvement in 
>> EURALO what proofs a certain ignorance (same with KEPKA where we have 
>> a valid contact address but never any response).
>> 
>> IMO - or according to minimal ALAC standards - members should assume 
>> some auto-responsibility and show some basic interest themselves, 
>> otherwise their involvement / membership is simply useless.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Wolf
>> 
>> 
>> W. Hülsmann (DVD e.V.) wrote Sun, 01 Jun 2014 12:32:
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>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 01.06.2014 03:41, schrieb Wolf Ludwig:
>>>> Terre des femmes, Germany
>>> 
>>> I think, it should be possible to reach the office at:
>>> <info at frauenrechte.de>
>>> 
>>> "TERRE DES FEMMES e. V.
>>> Brunnenstr. 128
>>> 13355 Berlin
>>> 
>>> Telefon: +49 (0)30 40504699-0
>>> Telefax: +49 (0)30 40504699-99
>>> 
>>> E-Mail: info at frauenrechte.de"
>>> 
>>> Perhaps there are also office adresses for the others ALSes.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Werner
>>> 
>>> 
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