[EURO-Discuss] R: Studienkreis

["Kleinwächter, Wolfgang"]

H everybody
 
the ICANN Studienkreis works under the Chatham Huse Rules. It is now more a "brainstorming meeting" than a "knowledge transfer conference" nor a "consensus meeting" where we work towards an agreed statement. Everybody is free to report to the broader community her or his take away and different perspetives are welcome (by respecting CH-Rules / that is NOT to link ideas, issues and statements to individuals).
 
BTW, next meeting is Sofia, Augst 28/29, 2014.
Best
 
wolfgang 
 
 

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Fra: euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org på vegne af Roberto Gaetano
Sendt: on 25-09-2013 22:27
Til: 'Discussion for At-Large Europe'
Emne: [EURO-Discuss] R: Studienkreis



Hi, Bill.
I fully agree with you when you say that the discussion was on "the impact
of the surveillance revelations on the politics of global Internet
governance, including on ICANN". That's what I tried to summarize saying
that: "the vast majority of the participants were critical about the
principle of limiting the privacy and controlling the data exchanged on the
Internet", as a result of what I quoted as "the wide impact that the Snowden
case had on all participants".
My perception was that the only argument against was about security,
intended as "national security". Otherwise said "we do surveillance to
prevent terrorism" - therefore surveillance for (homeland) security reasons.
But maybe I have missed bits of the discussion, thanks for the comment.
As a matter of fact, it would be helpful if in future Studienkreise we had a
sort of an "official" proceedings text, so that people can get a fair
reporting of the conference.
Would it make sense if all participants to the conference provide their
addition/deletion/correction, or their own statements, so that we can put
together an agreed summary?
Cheers,
R.




> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:euro-discuss-
> bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] Per conto di William Drake
> Inviato: mercoledì 25 settembre 2013 13:01
> A: Discussion for At-Large Europe
> Oggetto: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Studienkreis
>
> Hi Roberto
>
> One small point:
>
> On Sep 25, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Roberto Gaetano
> <roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Then a session on Internet Governance was planned. However, due to the
> > wide impact that the Snowden case had on all participants, the
> > discussion has focused almost only on privacy vs. security issues. My
> > personal impression is that the vast majority of the participants were
> > critical about the principle of limiting the privacy and controlling
> > the data exchanged on the Internet even if this could address security
> > issues like, for instance, detecting potentially illegal activities.
> > But, as I said, this is just my personal opinion having listened to the
> contributions.
> >
> > One key point of the discussion has been the role of the different
> > stakeholders in shaping the legislation and keeping a tight control to
> > ensure that rights are preserved. Fadi commented that this is another
> > example of the need for a multi-stakeholder model.
>
> Maybe it's because I was moderating, but I feel like I was in a different
> session.  The one I was in spent two and half hours debating the impact of
> the surveillance revelations on the politics of global Internet
governance,
> including on ICANN.  I don't actually recall much discussion about the
precise
> privacy/security balance people desired etc.  But this is just a
quibble...Thanks
> for the nice recap.
>
> What's interesting is that as far as I can know nobody has blogged tweeted
> etc. about the little bombshells Fadi dropped concerning his desire to
> internationalize the AoC, revise root management viz. ccTLDs, etc.  But
> maybe I'm just not looking hard enough...
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill
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