[EURO-Discuss] R: IMPORTANT: At-Large Objection Statements posted for RALO review - deadline for RALO advice to ALAC is now March 6 2013

Thu Mar 7 16:44:57 UTC 2013

Thanks, Adam, it has been a good opportunity to read about APRALO's discussion.
As a matter of fact, that reading made me change my point of view on .健康(while, on the other hand, I confirm my opposition to the ASCII .health strings).
Cheers,
R.

> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:euro-discuss-
> bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] Per conto di Adam Peake
> Inviato: giovedì 7 marzo 2013 10:39
> A: Discussion for At-Large Europe
> Oggetto: Re: [EURO-Discuss] IMPORTANT: At-Large Objection Statements
> posted for RALO review - deadline for RALO advice to ALAC is now March 6
> 2013
> 
> FWIW: a couple of helpful threads on the APRALO list <http://atlarge-
> lists.icann.org/pipermail/apac-discuss/2013/date.html>
> discussing .jiankang (.健康)
> 
> thread subjects "about .jiankang (.健康) and the proposed objection from
> ALAC" and "Regional Advice on .HEALTH Objection - APRALO vote proposed"
> 
> Rinalia's comments very sensible.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 5:55 PM, William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>
> wrote:
> > Hi Wolf
> >
> > Stephan VG asked me about about EURALO's view on this at the WSIS + 10
> in Paris as he's working with Stable Tone.  I told him I'd feel a little awkward
> passing on a lobbying pitch out of the blue since that'd be rather unusual
> here and suggested he get in touch with you to prompt discussion.  I'm
> guessing from your reply he did not.  But we could do anyway....I guess a
> question is whether the absence of a community that is aware of the process
> and objecting, per Avri, is sufficient grounds for a no? If people think it is
> then you've got a baseline to work from going forward...
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > On Mar 7, 2013, at 1:58, Wolf Ludwig <wolf.ludwig at comunica-ch.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Avri,
> >>
> >> thanks for raising the issue here and your advice what is much
> appreciated. There have been prior announcements on this list regarding
> RALO positions and potential objection statements against the new gTLD
> .health applicants -- but no response, recommendation or the like from our
> members so far, as usual. And there was no decision taken by the leadership
> because I am hesitating to forward my personal POV what does not
> necessarily represent the POV of our members or a portion of them at least.
> For these reasons, I tend to go for an abstention on all five applicants -- what
> is politically not a good solution but better than a *non community based*
> one.
> >>
> >> But I am also open for a NO vote on all of the five objections, as you
> suggested, if there is any further support in this direction. Any further advice
> will be much appreciated!
> >>
> >> Thanks and regards,
> >> Wolf
> >>
> >>
> >> Avri Doria wrote Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:14:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> We do not seem to have a discussion going on on these.  Perhaps the
> leadership has already decided.
> >>>
> >>> I would like to repeat arguments I have made elsewhere _against_
> support of these Objections.
> >>>
> >>> I think the most important issue for a Community Objection of Harm, is
> for there to be a Community that is claiming its identity and claiming that it
> would be harmed by the existence of such a gTLD.
> >>>
> >>> In this case, I do not see any Community standing up and declaring we
> are the Health Community and we think .health will harm us.
> >>>
> >>> I therefore suggest that EURALO vote NO on all of five objections.
> >>>
> >>> cheers,
> >>>
> >>> avri
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 4 Mar 2013, at 01:44, Dev Anand Teelucksingh wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Dear All,
> >>>>
> >>>> Please note that the objection statement against the applicant "dot
> >>>> Health Limited" for the ".health" string
> >>>> (https://community.icann.org/x/xYxwAg) and the objection statement
> >>>> against the applicant "Stable Tone Limited" for the "健康"
> >>>> ("jiankang") string (https://community.icann.org/x/0YxwAg) was
> >>>> updated on March 1
> >>>> 2013 to remove incorrect references to other applicants in these
> >>>> statements. The updated objection statements can be found on the
> >>>> respective wiki pages.
> >>>>
> >>>> On the gTLD RG call with the RALO officers on February 28 2013, an
> >>>> abstain option was added, instead of just a "Yes" or "No" answer
> >>>> for RALO.
> >>>> The RALO advice to the ALAC requires answers to the 5 questions
> >>>> listed at https://community.icann.org/x/t45wAg
> >>>>
> >>>> Finally, given clarification by ICANN's new gTLD staff as to the
> >>>> process by which funding from ICANN is made available to the ALAC,
> >>>> the RALO's answers to the 5 questions at
> >>>> https://community.icann.org/x/t45wAg can be sent to the ALAC by
> >>>> March
> >>>> 6 2013, 23:59 UTC.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Kind Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Dev Anand Teelucksingh
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 3:06 PM, ICANN At-Large Staff
> >>>> <staff at atlarge.icann.org> wrote:
> >>>>> Dear All,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please see an important message being sent on behalf of Dev Anand
> Teelucksingh, Chair of the At-Large new gTLD Review Group:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> **
> >>>>> Dear All,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As per the process by which the ALAC can object to a new gTLD
> application, (see one page PDF at http://bit.ly/how-ALAC-files-objection-to-
> new-gTLD ), the new gTLD Review Group (gTLD RG) have posted objection
> statements on community grounds to 5 new gTLD applications for Regional
> At-Large Organisation (RALO) review and advice to the ALAC.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The gTLD RG drafted the statements based on the outcomes of its
> >>>>> review and discussion of comments received by February 8, 2013
> >>>>> (see
> >>>>> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/at-large/2013q1/009493.ht
> >>>>> ml)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> All of the objection statements are on community objection
> >>>>> grounds. The community objection grounds page at
> https://community.icann.org/x/QgkQAg lists four tests that would enable
> the Dispute Resolution Service Provider hearing the objection to determine
> whether there is substantial opposition from a significant portion of the
> community to which the string may be targeted. Note also that ALL four tests
> must be met for the objection to prevail.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The 5 applications and objection statements, including the comments
> received by the gTLD RG on the applications can be found on the workspace
> at https://community.icann.org/x/soxwAg with 5 separate wiki pages for
> each new gTLD application, the objection statement and the comments
> received by the gTLD RG. Members of At-Large are invited to discuss and
> post questions or comments on these wiki pages.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> All RALOs must review EACH of the 5 gTLD applications and the
> associated information (objection statement, comments) on the wiki pages
> and decide if the objection statement drafted  by the gTLD RG group
> supports the criterion for community objection.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The RALO cannot modify any of the 5 objection statements, but must
> advise the ALAC as to whether the RALO EITHER:
> >>>>> 1) supports the objection statement being filed by the ALAC
> >>>>> against the new gTLD application OR
> >>>>> 2) NOT support the objection statement being filed by the ALAC
> against the new gTLD application.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This advice for each of the 5 objection statements must be sent to the
> ALAC by March 5, 2013, 23:59 UTC so that the ALAC can review the RALO
> advice before the end of the objection period on March 13, 2013.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A conference call is tentatively scheduled on Thursday, February
> >>>>> 28, 2013 (exact time will be confirmed by At-Large Staff) is being
> planned for RALO officers with the gTLD RG members to provide an overview
> of the process and to answer any questions they may have as to what  is
> expected by the RALOs as per the process by which the ALAC can object to a
> new gTLD application. At-Large members are welcome to attend this call.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Kind regards,
> >>>>> Dev Anand Teelucksingh
> >>>>>
> >>>>> **
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber,
> >>>>> Nathalie Peregrine, and Julia Charvolen ICANN Policy Staff in
> >>>>> support of the ALAC
> >>>>> E-mail: staff at atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org>
> >>>>
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