[EURO-Discuss] Lisbon GA meeting minutes

EMP info at euromediaplatform.org
Wed Jun 26 15:22:05 UTC 2013


Absolutely. And legal advise also.

Best,
Oksana

On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Wolf Ludwig <wolf.ludwig at comunica-ch.net>wrote:

> May I suggest that we leave any further consideration and final decision
> on this matter to experienced Board members and At-Large Staff (as meeting
> minutes are not a "wish list")!
>
> Best, Wolf
>
>
> EMP wrote Wed, 26 Jun 2013 07:55:
> >Dear Wolf,
> >
> >After GA I was in the same room with you for some hours. I really received
> >a lot of congratulations for my election, in part from Ukraine. Moreover,
> I
> >withdrew my application for Buenos-Aires as a fellow, becouse I
> understood,
> >that the election is done.
> >
> >What I am talking about? Is it surprise for me that you can not look at my
> >eyes directly and you can not share with me what "was sensed during the
> >meeting and intensively discussed afterwards at the Outreach reception
> >already"?
> >
> >It was not said during GA. It can not be in minutes.
> >
> >Thank you very much for your understanding,
> >Best regards,
> >Oksana
> >
> >On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Wolf Ludwig <wolf.ludwig at comunica-ch.net
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Oksana,
> >>
> >> first of all, thanks for your kind wishes.
> >>
> >> Regarding your suggestion on the minutes "to remove" the sentence you
> >> quoted, this is an important reference to the Bylaws and non-validity of
> >> the first voting round (and not only as you said, "that provokes a lot
> of
> >> problems"). Some of the members present in the room realized during the
> >> meeting already that this voting result doesn't match respective Bylaws
> >> requirements. And as we mentioned during the extraordinary Board
> meeting on
> >> Thursday night, we (incl. Olivier who was chairing this part) didn't ask
> >> for an immediate time-out because of the VIP guests in the room.
> >>
> >> Brief: This non-conformability of the voting result with our Bylaws was
> >> not "raised in public only the day after GA", as you said, but was
> sensed
> >> during the meeting and intensively discussed afterwards at the Outreach
> >> reception already. That's why we convened this extraordinary Board
> meeting.
> >> And to be on the safe side, we assigned some Board members with an
> >> *in-depth Bylaw check* on Thursday night. The outcome of their check
> >> confirmed what we sensed before and the need of a "run-off vote" what
> Staff
> >> started to prepare immediately afterwards (what was opened yesterday
> >> Online).
> >>
> >> What you suggested "to remove" is a *factual finding* (even if finally
> >> confirmed after the meeting) that needs to be mentioned in the minutes!
> >> Otherwise  this part of the minutes would read as this voting result
> would
> >> have been valid.
> >>
> >> For the rest of your proposals, I leave this to the new Board for
> further
> >> consideration.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Wolf
> >>
> >>
> >> EMP wrote Tue, 25 Jun 2013 23:49:
> >> >Dear Wolf,
> >> >
> >> >Happy birthday to you and best wishes!
> >> >
> >> >Dear Jordi, dear Manuel,
> >> >
> >> >Thank you very-very much for your minutes - your volunteering was of
> >> >crucial importance!
> >> >
> >> >Dear Jordi,
> >> >
> >> >Can I ask you to remove the remark
> >> >
> >> >*There is no majority required as stated by EURALO’s bylaws (11.18 and
> >> >11.20), a second round (run-off vote) will be held online in a few days
> >> >after the meeting.*
> >> >
> >> >from GA minutes? This point was raised in public only the day after GA,
> >> and
> >> >that provokes a lot of problems.
> >> >
> >> >I would like also to repeat my proposition regarding Working
> >> Group/Advisory
> >> >Councils.
> >> >
> >> >Just now we have 8 voting members of EURALO Board:
> >> >
> >> >Mr. Frans Gerbosch* - ISOC Belgium
> >> >
> >> >Mr. Yrjö Länsipuro* - ISOC Finland
> >> >
> >> >Mr. Jordi Iparraguirre* - ISOC Catalonia
> >> >
> >> >Mr. William Drake* - Ind. member
> >> >
> >> >Ms. Annette Mühlberg* - NNM Germany
> >> >
> >> >Ms. Desiree Miloshevic* - Ind. member
> >> >
> >> >Mr. Manuel Schneider* - Wikimedia CH + A
> >> >
> >> >Mr. Lutz Donnerhacke* - FITUG
> >> >
> >> >I propose for each of them to choose his or her own priority and chair
> >> >respective direction of future work.
> >> >
> >> >Besides, we discussed the need to re-write existing EURALO By-laws.
> This
> >> >idea was supported by Yrjo, and it would be great, if he could chair
> this
> >> >working group (I would be happy to participate in it).
> >> >
> >> >From my side, I propose to create WG/AC on capacity building/team
> >> building.
> >> >I would be happy to see everyone from you in it, but I would like to
> >> invite
> >> >in person Lutz (to avoid any problems with privacy) and Manuel (to
> explore
> >> >better tools of on-line communication).
> >> >
> >> >My last proposition - to enhance national and thematic components
> during
> >> >our monthly teleconference calls.
> >> >
> >> >For example, it would be great, if anybody from Germany  (the country
> with
> >> >maximal number of ALSes) can prepare short presentation on national
> >> >priorities on IG, on achievements and problems. It would be extremely
> >> >interesting both regarding future EuroDIG, which will be hosted by
> Berlin,
> >> >and regarding latest developments in this countries (new law on
> copyright,
> >> >report on IG for German Parliament and so on).
> >> >
> >> >Dear Annette,
> >> >
> >> >Is it possible to ask you to prepare this presentation?
> >> >
> >> >And, of course, regarding thematic discussion, it would be great to
> >> discuss
> >> >first of all privacy concerns, especially from the point of view of
> future
> >> >work on EURALO capacity/team building.
> >> >
> >> >Dear Lutz,
> >> >
> >> >Could you please take the responsibility for this presentation on
> >> >yourselves?
> >> >
> >> >I want to support Manuel's proposition to use more actively Wiki space,
> >> >but, of course, we have to keep in mind  Werner's concern (regarding
> >> >Android).
> >> >
> >> >Best regards,
> >> >
> >> >Oksana
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Wolf Ludwig <
> wolf.ludwig at comunica-ch.net
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Dear all,
> >> >>
> >> >> as some of you have asked for this already, attached please find a
> copy
> >> of
> >> >> the meeting minutes from our Lisbon GA last week with an updated
> >> version of
> >> >> the thematic priorities (incl. additional names).
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks again to Jordi who has taken all relevant notes from the GA to
> >> make
> >> >> the minutes quickly available (what would have been the job of the
> >> >> incumbent Secretariat BTW). Silvia will upload the minutes on our
> >> Workspace
> >> >> these days.
> >> >>
> >> >> Kind regards,
> >> >> Wolf
> >> >>
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> >> >>
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