[EURO-Discuss] EURO-Discuss Digest, Vol 80, Issue 37

Wolf Ludwig wolf.ludwig at comunica-ch.net
Mon Jun 24 17:01:12 UTC 2013 

This Online voting tool for the 2nd round will be prepared by Staff these days and the voting will start soon. You didn't miss anything so far.

Best, Wolf


Oksana Prykhodko wrote Mon, 24 Jun 2013 08:28:
>Dear all,
>
>Did I miss anything?
>
>Wolf wrote:
>*depending on the outcome of the 2nd Online (run-off) vote, Yuliya should
>do the Secretariat until the next GA in London in summer 2014;*
>
>I did not see any information about 2nd Online (run-off) vote, and did not
>participate in it.
>
>Best regards,
>Oksana
>
>On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 8:22 AM, <
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>>    1. Re: R:   GA Minutes (Annette Muehlberg)
>>    2. Re: R:   GA Minutes (W. H?lsmann (DVD e.V.))
>>    3. Re: R:   GA Minutes (Manuel Schneider)
>>    4. Re: Proposal to move forward regarding the election       of Euralo
>>       officers (Wolf Ludwig)
>>    5. Re: R:   GA Minutes (Annette Muehlberg)
>>    6.  GA Minutes (Annette Muehlberg)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:23:17 +0200 (CEST)
>> From: "Annette Muehlberg" <annette.muehlberg at web.de>
>> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] R:   GA Minutes
>> To: "Discussion for At-Large Europe"
>>         <euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>> Cc: 'Discussion for At-Large Europe'
>>         <euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, 'At-Large Staff'
>>         <staff at atlarge.icann.org>, "'\"Annette M?hlberg\"'"
>>         <egov at annette-muehlberg.de>
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>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:29:08 +0200
>> From: "W. H?lsmann (DVD e.V.)"  <huelsmann at datenschutzverein.org>
>> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] R:   GA Minutes
>> To: euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> Cc: At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org>
>> Message-ID: <51C857B4.9040207 at datenschutzverein.org>
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>> Dear all,
>>
>> there is a very suspect function of the mailing list server. I stand
>> next to annette as she was writing the mail to the euralo list. And I
>> can asure you: There has been some content!
>>
>> @staff: Can you please check, if there is a misfunction? Or if there
>> is a filter on the list, which don't like some of annettes text.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Werner
>>
>> Am 24.06.2013 16:23, schrieb Annette Muehlberg:
>> >
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>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:38:50 +0200
>> From: Manuel Schneider <manuel.schneider at wikimedia.ch>
>> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] R:   GA Minutes
>> To: Discussion for At-Large Europe
>>         <euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>> Message-ID: <51C859FA.3090803 at wikimedia.ch>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> maybe it is because that mail was HTML only? While mail clients send
>> HTML in a multi-part format with plain text along with it, most
>> listservers are configured to strip HTML.
>> So I guess what happens here is a unfortunate combination of a
>> mailclient that sends HTML only (w/o plain text) and mailman that strips
>> the HTML, leaving an empty mail body only.
>>
>> Annette: Can you try sending the mail as plain text? Some mail client
>> allow it to change this for an individual mail only.
>>
>> Staff /could/ allow Mailman to forward HTML mail, even though that is
>> discouraged.
>>
>> /Manuel
>>
>> Am 24.06.2013 16:29, schrieb "W. H?lsmann (DVD e.V.)":
>> > there is a very suspect function of the mailing list server. I stand
>> > next to annette as she was writing the mail to the euralo list. And I
>> > can asure you: There has been some content!
>> >
>> > @staff: Can you please check, if there is a misfunction? Or if there
>> > is a filter on the list, which don't like some of annettes text.
>>
>> --
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:50:09 +0200
>> From: Wolf Ludwig <wolf.ludwig at comunica-ch.net>
>> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Proposal to move forward regarding the
>>         election        of Euralo officers
>> To: S?bastien Bachollet <sebastien at bachollet.com>,      Discussion for
>>         At-Large Europe <euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>> Cc: Oliver Passek <oliver.passek at gruene-europa.de>, Annette M?hlberg
>>         <egov at annette-muehlberg.de>,    At-Large Staff <
>> staff at atlarge.icann.org>
>> Message-ID:
>>         <1372085409-3664990a152355403ad3c8f7d176155e at comunica-ch.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Dear S?bastien and all,
>>
>> first of all, let me thank all of you for coming to Lisbon for the GA and
>> EuroDIG what was an important momentum in the EURALO history, as S?bastien
>> noted below. And I agree there are a lot of opportunities ahead we
>> shouldn't miss!
>>
>> Among the first, I hope that the re-composed Board with some new members
>> will be more committed and functional than in the past where it was a mere
>> paper construct and dis-functional to fulfill any of the functions or tasks
>> assigned to this body in our Bylaws. And I agree with S?bastien that the
>> new Board should have all the important roles he outlined below (and in
>> better accordance to out Bylaws). For the moment, I would like to see this
>> happen over the next twelve months until our next GA assumingly in June
>> 2014 in London. Then we will see and know whether this was more than just
>> "wishful thinking" like in the past. If it proofs to *work*, the model
>> described by S?bastien below should be applied -- but for the moment, I
>> dare to have some doubts particularly in terms of *practicality*.
>>
>> Therefore let me suggest some more realistic modifications for the moment:
>> - the previous Secretariat has not worked and won't fulfill its tasks and
>> role in the upcoming term, and I am strictly not willing to risk and loose
>> another two years in our change of generation strategy (outlined in the
>> last Board report);
>> - the Chair *must* count on the second element of the leadership what is
>> the Secretariat to be fully operational seen all the challenges ahead;
>> - RALO Officers only who fulfill their duties and perform their role
>> properly should be rewarded by attending ICANN meetings and the like;
>> - as repeatedly explained in Lisbon, I need to have confidence in my
>> co-leadership what is the Secretariat at the moment;
>> - depending on the outcome of the 2nd Online (run-off) vote, Yuliya should
>> do the Secretariat until the next GA in London in summer 2014;
>> - Oksana can do the coordination or shepherding for the Board to make this
>> body as operational as it should be;
>> - if this scenario becomes true until London, we can re-discuss and
>> re-define roles and responsibilities the way outlined by S?bastien (Yuliya
>> as Vice-Chair, Oksana as Secretariat) to broaden EURALO's leaderships
>> structure and basis;
>> - this 2014 model then could pave the way for the change of generation in
>> 2015 (when I wouldn't be involved in the leadership any more).
>>
>> For the moment, Officers must do the job and perform in their role they
>> are designed and selected for! And all involved have a chance to proof
>> their performance until London. Thanks for your consideration and
>>
>> kind regards,
>> Wolf
>>
>>
>> S?bastien Bachollet wrote Sun, 23 Jun 2013 11:06:
>> >Hello,
>> >Let me first congratulate Wolf for the well organized Euralo GA and all of
>> >you for your participation.
>> >I can assure you also that Fadi Chehade was very appreciative of the work
>> >done and the level of the discussion during the GA.
>> >It is important not to loose this momentum.
>> >
>> >Now we have, to completely finalize the agenda of the GA, to agree on the
>> >way to select/elect the Euralo Officers.
>> >It is the object of the message now.
>> >
>> >
>> >Since the end of the EURALO GA in Lisbon, a lot of discussions and
>> meetings
>> >took place regarding the elections of the officers.
>> >
>> >I talk with some of you and specifically with Wolf, Yuliya and Oksana.
>> >Both of them agree with me verbally on the following proposal and
>> therefore
>> >I would like to suggest a way to move forward.
>> >
>> >If we want to apply the bylaws regarding the election of Euralo Officers
>> we
>> >need to refer to the following article
>> >9.6.1 The Chair of the Board, and a Vice-Chair, shall be elected by the
>> >Board subsequent to the election of the Board, subject to 9.6.4, from
>> >amongst those Board members willing to serve.
>> >
>> >And regarding the secretariat we have
>> >12.1 A Secretariat, composed of professional individual(s), may be
>> appointed
>> >or engaged on a paid or unpaid basis by the Board in order to handle the
>> >administrative requirements of the Association.
>> >
>> >Therefore a meeting of the Euralo Board must be organized ASAP to discuss
>> >the issue and finalize an agreement, regarding the election of the
>> officers,
>> >as it is the full responsibility of the Board.
>> >
>> >The Board take as a informal inputs the vote of the GA regarding the
>> >secretariat position.
>> >
>> >The Board vote on the following motion (draft proposition):
>> >"Taking into account article 9.6.1 and 12.1 (and other articles) of the
>> >Euralo bylaws, the Board decide to appoint
>> >As Chair: Wolf Ludwig
>> >As Vice-Chair : Yuliya Morenets
>> >As (unpaid) Secretariat of the Board : Oksana Prykhodko.
>> >The term of office shall last for 2 years."
>> >
>> >It may need some more legalistic review in the writing ;)
>> >
>> >I hope it is acceptable by all of you and that the Euralo can move
>> forward.
>> >I hope also that the full Board of Euralo will help the 3 (future)
>> officers
>> >and get involved in the policy development to have the voice of the
>> European
>> >End-Users included as much as possible.
>> >If you have any question, I will try to answer them.
>> >
>> >Thanks for your involvement.
>> >All the best
>> >S?bastien Bachollet
>> >+33 6 07 66 89 33
>> >Blog: http://sebastien.bachollet.fr/
>> >Mail: S?bastien Bachollet <sebastien at bachollet.com>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 17:03:42 +0200 (CEST)
>> From: "Annette Muehlberg" <annette.muehlberg at web.de>
>> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] R:   GA Minutes
>> To: "Discussion for At-Large Europe"
>>         <euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> <trinity-20303aa0-694a-42f5-9ec5-8bcd41bcd193-1372086222668 at 3capp-webde-bs25
>> >
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>> Thank you, Manuel,
>>
>> funny that the week before it worked.
>> It seems that my web-mailer changed format-functions. I wll resend the
>> mail now.
>>
>> All the best
>> Annette
>>
>> > Gesendet: Montag, 24. Juni 2013 um 16:38 Uhr
>> > Von: "Manuel Schneider" <manuel.schneider at wikimedia.ch>
>> > An: "Discussion for At-Large Europe" <
>> euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>> > Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] R:   GA Minutes
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > maybe it is because that mail was HTML only? While mail clients send
>> > HTML in a multi-part format with plain text along with it, most
>> > listservers are configured to strip HTML.
>> > So I guess what happens here is a unfortunate combination of a
>> > mailclient that sends HTML only (w/o plain text) and mailman that strips
>> > the HTML, leaving an empty mail body only.
>> >
>> > Annette: Can you try sending the mail as plain text? Some mail client
>> > allow it to change this for an individual mail only.
>> >
>> > Staff /could/ allow Mailman to forward HTML mail, even though that is
>> > discouraged.
>> >
>> > /Manuel
>> >
>> > Am 24.06.2013 16:29, schrieb "W. H?lsmann (DVD e.V.)":
>> > > there is a very suspect function of the mailing list server. I stand
>> > > next to annette as she was writing the mail to the euralo list. And I
>> > > can asure you: There has been some content!
>> > >
>> > > @staff: Can you please check, if there is a misfunction? Or if there
>> > > is a filter on the list, which don't like some of annettes text.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Wikimedia CH - Verein zur F?rderung Freien Wissens
>> > Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 17:07:06 +0200 (CEST)
>> From: "Annette Muehlberg" <annette.muehlberg at web.de>
>> Subject: [EURO-Discuss]  GA Minutes
>> To: "Discussion for At-Large Europe"
>>         <euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>> Cc: At-Large Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org>, "Annette M?hlberg"
>>         <egov at annette-muehlberg.de>
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> <trinity-86305e01-4e14-470d-ae65-75d40087a66e-1372086426057 at 3capp-webde-bs25
>> >
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>> So, once again my mail from the 21st in textformat ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear all,
>> ?
>> as online-participation was very difficult on wednesday, I would be
>> interested in the minutes of the meeting. I guess, there is still a lot to
>> do?and there are other events like the EuroDIG,... But it would be great if
>> we could have the minutes at least at the begin of next week.
>> ?
>> All the best
>> Annette
>>
>>
>>
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