[EURO-Discuss] Background for tonight's Euralo call

Wolf Ludwig wolf.ludwig at comunica-ch.net
Wed Sep 23 19:13:13 CDT 2009


Hi Cheryl and all,

thanks for your background infos on tonight's EURALO call what, I think, 
is helpful to correct some misinterpretations. Let me take your last 
sentence or questioning assumption that "this is going to go anywhere 
but downhill from here" and add the conclusion of our call tonight: 

We are aware that the recent development is more than delicate and the 
situation is difficult to be understood by many observers (at least at 
EURALO) who were not closely involved. What we felt is the need to 
overcome this confrontation leading to nowhere but a deadlock and 
to try to de-escalate the given situation. At our call tonight we were 
seeking for options how the relations between ALAC and NCUC could 
be calmed and improved again, and the nomination of Bill as a 
Liaison person between both could offer such an opportunity. As you 
confirmed in your previous response already, Bill offers with his 
"involvement with EURALO (and NCUC - GNSO) a perfect fit for 
the Job". If Bill - with support from EURALO - could assume a 
mediation role in this matter, we will try our best. As we know, 
the deadline for organising "official" meetings in Seoul has passed 
already but there should still be opportunities for "informal" ones.

Let's try to discuss, define and find ways out and solutions together. 
Thanks and best regards,
Wolf


Cheryl Langdon-Orr wrote Thu, 24 Sep 2009 04:55:
>Hi Bill, I'd like you, EURALO and the ALAC to be very aware of a single
>point of concern to me in the Blog reply /thread you made in the link
>provided below... specifically the following...  PLease note that Robyn as
>Chair of NCUC wrote to me in email appointing you as the NCUC liaison (i.e.
>advising me of you offer) I replied to her message with copy to staff, copy
>to ExCom list (PUBLIC)  within minutes of the receipt of this advice and
>announced at the following ExCom and then full ALAC Meeting(s) that a
>Liaison from NCUC was most welcome and that you in my opinion with your
>involvement with EURALO a perfect fit for the Job, and expected in fact that
>you would be well aware of this reply as well as would have attended (if
>available) or reviewed our meetings since then (you are already on the
>relevant lists get notices links to agenda's etc.,) where the ALAC has
>discussed that we will need to appoint a Liaison to the NCSG (with the
>existing NCUC being a constituent part of that under the current model were
>working with) or review later complaints to us from both our previous NCUC
>Liaisons did not motivate us to appoint a replacement to Beau for a month or
>so before this change would need to occur any way in our view...  Also  the
>ALAC discussed that as we will attend the User House meeting and (with the
>exception of the single purpose IRT issue  and our Joint Response / work
>activity that enveloped our time (and was conducted in the scheduled meeting
>time for NCUC and ALAC in Sydney)  meetings since Mexico  ( well Cairo
>actually) have been a duplication of effort and topic and that as we had a
>very full set of demands in our Seoul agenda, and as ALAC and RALO leaders
>had complained about the workload and requested more time to address policy
>development matters;  unless Robyn proposed a topic that required a specific
>F2F between the NCUC as a GNSO constituency and our AC then we would only
>schedule the User House meeting and use the time for other priority
>meetings...  In my reply to Robyn et.al and welcoming you as an NCUC Liaison
>to the ALAC I also covered off (in shorter form) all of that as well... Why
>you have not been made aware of all this immediate and welcoming response to
>your offer from the ALAC however I can not say.
>"For my part, I offered almost a month ago to serve as a liaison but never
>got a reply from ALAC, and am now told that they've decided they don't need
>to liaise with NCUC. And to my knowledge there's no NCUC-ALAC meeting
>planned for Seoul. Hard to see how this is going to go anywhere but downhill
>from here, but whatever, I guess. "
>
>CLO
>
>2009/9/23 William Drake <william.drake at graduateinstitute.ch>
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I see on the agenda item 3, "ALAC response to recent activities of the
>> NCUC."
>>
>> Given the general lack of NCUC-ALAC dialogue and information sharing, I'm
>> guessing that not everybody will be equally aware of the background.  To
>> that end, the following links might be worth perusing prior to the
>> discussion.
>>
>> http://blog.internetgovernance.org/blog/_archives/2009/9/22/4329523.html
>>
>> http://www.icann.org/correspondence/ncuc-to-beckstrom-18aug09-en.pdf
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> PS: I will probably have to leave the call after an hour
>>
>> ***********************************************************
>> William J. Drake
>> Senior Associate
>> Centre for International Governance
>> Graduate Institute of International and
>>  Development Studies
>> Geneva, Switzerland
>> william.drake at graduateinstitute.ch
>> www.graduateinstitute.ch/cig/drake.html
>> ***********************************************************
>>
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