[EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up

Roberto Gaetano roberto at icann.org
Mon May 28 12:04:21 EDT 2007


I will be there but probably busy with the Board.
Roberto

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org 
> [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On 
> Behalf Of Jacqueline A. Morris
> Sent: 28 May 2007 15:34
> To: 'Discussion for At-Large Europe'
> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up
> 
> Hi Desiree
> Most people won't be in until late Sat, I think. You could 
> have it Sunday in parallel with the NARALO and LACRALO 
> meetings... how many from EURALO will be there?
> Jacqueline
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Desiree Miloshevic [mailto:dmiloshevic at afilias.info]
> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 9:10 AM
> To: Discussion for At-Large Europe
> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up
> 
> I expect that there would be an informal EURALO meeting in San Juan?
> 
> Saturday?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Desiree
> --
> 
> Kleinwächter wrote:
> > Tuesday would be fine, but please let me know as soon as 
> possible that 
> > I
> can inform the panelists.
> >  
> > Best
> >  
> > w
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > 
> > Från: Jacqueline A. Morris [mailto:jam at jacquelinemorris.com]
> > Skickat: lö 2007-05-26 00:15
> > Till: Kleinwächter, Wolfgang; 'Discussion for At-Large Europe'
> > Ämne: RE: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sunday is the same day as the LACRALO and NARALO meetings, so they 
> > won't
> be
> > able to make it Sunday.
> > Check with Nick - the last day he suggested to me was 
> Tuesday afternoon...
> > not sure how the schedule is running now - I haven't seen a 
> full draft
> yet.
> > Jacqueline
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kleinwächter, Wolfgang
> > [mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de]
> > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 5:29 PM
> > To: jam at jacquelinemorris.com; Discussion for At-Large Europe
> > Subject: SV: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up
> > 
> > Thanks Jackie
> > 
> > there is no need to have the two workshops on the same day. 
> I proposed 
> > Sunday for the gTLD workshop, Robin Wednesday for the FOE workshop. 
> > Robin wanted to consult this pro9posal with Milton an d 
> others in the 
> > NCUC. Lets hear what their position is than lates make an 
> joint announcement.
> > 
> > best
> > 
> > w
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > 
> > Från: euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org genom 
> Jacqueline A.
> > Morris
> > Skickat: fr 2007-05-25 14:55
> > Till: 'Discussion for At-Large Europe'
> > Ämne: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hello everyone
> > I thought that it would make sense to have a joint 
> NCUC/ALAC session 
> > with each session having its own timeslot - we had 
> originally planned 
> > to have
> an
> > ALAC afternoon with 2 sessions  - one the gTLD workshop and one the 
> > "hot issues" workshop. I am OK with having the gTLD 
> workshop moved to 
> > a joint ALAC/NCUC morning or afternoon with the Freedom of 
> expression 
> > session - I didn't think that the two parts needed to be linked 
> > topically - or are we talking about conflating the two into one?
> > They are linked in that they are issues that are important 
> to end-users.
> The
> > event (the morning or afternoon) could be jointly marketed.
> > Jacqueline
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roberto Gaetano [mailto:roberto at icann.org]
> > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 3:31 AM
> > To: 'Discussion for At-Large Europe'
> > Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up
> > 
> > It would be good to have an outline of both, because the 
> links between 
> > gegraphical domain names and freedom of speech are not 
> obvious to me.
> > This does not mean that we cannot call both workshops under one 
> > umbrella,
> to
> > foster also better communication between ALAC and NCUC, but 
> just that 
> > we should be careful in forcing links that are not clear in 
> the mind 
> > of the average attendee.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Roberto
> > 
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >> [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of 
> >> William Drake
> >> Sent: 25 May 2007 07:28
> >> To: nick.ashton-hart at icann.org, Discussion for At-Large Europe
> >> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up
> >>
> >> A priori, jointly convening both and exploring each issue set more 
> >> thoroughly with links drawn between the two sounds right to me.
> >>
> >> BD
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/24/07 5:01 PM, "Nick Ashton-Hart"
> >> <nick.ashton-hart at icann.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I think it is up to the community. From what I know of these two 
> >>> events, it would seem to me that these are two important and very 
> >>> different aspects to consider and it is worthwhile to 
> consider them 
> >>> separately because each set of issues will then get more 
> time, and 
> >>> therefore be explored more thoroughly, than if they 
> shared a single 
> >>> timeslot. Of course, nothing would stop the two
> >> constituencies jointly
> >>> convening one or the other of these events, which would 
> provide the 
> >>> 'one voice' benefits you mention.
> >>>
> >>> Jacqueline, do you have any thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> On 24/05/07, "Kleinwächter"@smtp01.icann.org 
> >>> <"Kleinwächter"@smtp01.icann.org> wrote:
> >>>> Dear list
> >>>>
> >>>> Robin Gross from IP Justice, who is also with the
> >> Non-Commercial User
> >>>> Constituency of the GNSO told me here in geneva during the IGF 
> >>>> consultations that she is preparing a similar workshop on
> >> Freedom of
> >>>> Expression in San Juan (probably on Wednesday, June, 27, 2007.
> >>>>
> >>>> What do you think, should we consider to do the two
> >> workshops under
> >>>> one unbrella as a joint activitiy of ALAC and NCUC? The
> >> two workshops
> >>>> are totally independent but complement each other. Each
> >> unit would be
> >>>> responsible for its own workshop but coulkd benefit from 
> the joint 
> >>>> advertisement. Thisn could lead to a win-win-situation.
> >> And we would
> >>>> give the ICANN constituency as a whole a clear signal,
> >> that th voice
> >>>> of the users/consumers/at large members gets louder.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any comments?
> >>>>
> >>>> Wolfgang
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ________________________________
> >>>>
> >>>> Von: Annette Muehlberg [mailto:annette.muehlberg at web.de]
> >>>> Gesendet: Do 24.05.2007 15:37
> >>>> An: sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr; Discussion for At-Large Europe
> >>>> Cc: Kleinwächter, Wolfgang
> >>>> Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Sébastien, Wolfgang,
> >>>>
> >>>> I would like to join you in working on the GEO-TLD
> >> meeting, as we are
> >>>> working on .berlin what is the current plan?
> >>>>
> >>>> best
> >>>> annette
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Sébastien Bachollet schrieb:
> >>>>> Sorry Wolfgang to take this old message but it contains 2
> >> important points.
> >>>>> About the so-call GEO-TLDs I would like to help you in 
> setting up 
> >>>>> the meeting especially because we started some work on .paris.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am not sure I will be available during the forthcoming
> >> 8th meeting
> >>>>> of the ICANN Studienkreis (October 11-12, 2007 in 
> Warsaw) for an 
> >>>>> EURALO outreach meeting (Thursday, October 11, 9.00 -
> >> 15.00) but I think is a good idea.
> >>>>> I start to work on Egeni Europe 2008 for June (just
> >> before the Icann
> >>>>> meeting in Europe) and I think we need to do also
> >> something about Euralo.
> >>>>> All the best
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sébastien Bachollet
> >>>>> Président
> >>>>> sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr
> >>>>> www.egeni.org
> >>>>> www.isoc.fr
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
> >>>>> De : euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >>>>> [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] De
> >> la part de
> >>>>> Wolfgang Kleinwächter Envoyé : samedi 31 mars 2007 13:45 À :
> >>>>> Discussion for At-Large Europe; Discussion for At-Large
> >> Europe; Nick
> >>>>> Ashton-Hart Cc : Europe Discuss; Asia-Pacific Discuss 
> Objet : Re:
> >>>>> [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sorry I forgot the proposals:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1. the prepare a workshop for San Juan on Consumer Interests on 
> >>>>> geographical
> >>>>> TLDs: The working title could be "Consumer Confusion vs.
> >> Consumer Choice:
> >>>>> The User Interests in  GEO-TLDs". As we discussed in
> >> Lisbon, there
> >>>>> is a growing number of related projects (.berlin, .nyc,
> >> .cym, .sco,
> >>>>> .london etc) and there are two main arguments in favour
> >> and against.
> >>>>> In Germany the local government which operates berlin.de
> >> argues that
> >>>>> .berlin would create consumer confusion while the federal
> >> parliament
> >>>>> just recently adopted a resolution arguing GEO-TLDs 
> like .munich, 
> >>>>> .cologne, .saxony, .bavaria or .leipzig would bring more
> >> competition
> >>>>> and more consumer choice. I expect that the ICANN Board
> >> if it has to
> >>>>> take decisions on such TLDs  (based on the GNSO Policy
> >> paper and the
> >>>>> GAC gTLD principles) will need some input form the user
> >> perspective
> >>>>> and this is the ALAC. I would be ready to start the
> >> preparation for such a two hour workshopin San Juan.
> >>>>> 2. I propose to use the forthcoming 8th meeting of the ICANN 
> >>>>> Studienkreis (October 11-12, 2007 in Warsaw) for an
> >> EURALO outreach
> >>>>> meeting (Thursday, October 11, 9.00 - 15.00) for Central
> >> and Eastern
> >>>>> Europe. I ask all ALS and other friends of EURALO to send me 
> >>>>> contcats so that we can do outrech and invite speakers. I
> >> will work
> >>>>> together also with the Diplo Foundation. Input from ISOC
> >> Europe is welcome.
> >>>>> Best
> >>>>>
> >>>>> wolfgang
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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