[EURO-Discuss] the EURALO board

Tue Aug 14 20:19:13 EDT 2007

Dear Jeanette,

I totally agree with you about the vision of the at-large community !

Best

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Jeanette Hofmann a écrit :
> 
> Hi Nick,
> 
> my answer to your questions would be that most of us are members of 
> various organizations and networks. Most of these issue networks 
> overlap, and it is actually quite useful that they do so. We gain 
> expertise and access to all sorts of resources by being involved in 
> networks. Even ICANN itself as become more active in fora such as the IGF.
> So, I would say this is not a matter of before and after but rather of 
> benefiting from synergies. To name just one example, the council of 
> Europe has been very active in the field of privacy matters. There is no 
> need to start at zero again if  there is a chance to build on the COE's 
> work.
> jeanette
> 
> 
>> Until the EURALO actually has decided positions on any substantive policy
>> area, what use would interaction with the EU/EC/CoE or anyone else actually
>> serve?
>>
>> This is a sensitive time in the development of the At-Large community. If
>> those outside of At-Large see a RALO making efforts at spending time
>> interacting with agencies completely outside of ICANN, especially before
>> being engaged substantively in the work of ICANN, to be honest it will
>> create a bad impression. ICANN will also be unlikely to fund efforts which
>> are largely unrelated to ICANN's business, and interacting with the
>> EC/EU/CoE is something that I believed the various ALSes were intending to
>> reserve for themselves.
>>
>> After years of discussing process, there is an expectation in the broader
>> ICANN community that the At-Large community will become engaged with policy
>> development, as all the other constituencies are and have been for a long
>> time now. If they see that the first efforts are related to institutions
>> completely outside of the ICANN policy development context it will do the
>> community, and those engaged in such efforts, no good at all.
>>
>> I'm sorry if this is seen as something of a wet blanket, but I have an
>> obligation to all of you to provide you with an honest assessment of things
>> and that's what I'm trying to do here.
>>
>>
>> On 14/8/07 13:19, "Wolf Ludwig" <wolf.ludwig at comunica-ch.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Nick,
>>>
>>> thanks for your remarks conc. the list I sent!
>>>
>>> As far as I know, Wolfgang joined already the PSC-list and is in contact with
>>> Pierre.
>>>
>>> Regarding the two items of work referencing the EC/EU and Council of Europe
>>> I want to clarify that we do NOT intend to follow-up the whole bunch of EC/EU
>>> and CoE stuff BUT to concentrate purely on issues related to ICANN work and
>>> discussions, such as netneutrality and others -- which may be specific or
>>> relevant for EURALO!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Wolf
>>>
>>>
>>> Nick Ashton-Hart Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:47:
>>>> Dear Wolf and European ALSes:
>>>>
>>>> In perusing the list that Wolf has sent out I have a couple of questions, if
>>>> I might (and one comment)
>>>>
>>>> With respect to the PSC: The current liaison to the PSC is Pierre Dandjinou.
>>>> There is certainly a working group/mailing list associated with this effort
>>>> which Wolfgang would not only be welcome to join but encouraged to join.
>>>>
>>>> There are two items of work referencing the EC/EU and Council of Europe. It
>>>> would be helpful to understand what this means, since the Bylaws of EURALO
>>>> make clear that EURALOs work relates to ICANN, not the EU or the Council of
>>>> Europe. This was the subject of considerable debate as I recall.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/8/07 12:03, "Wolf Ludwig" <wolf.ludwig at comunica-ch.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to thank our fellow board members  as well as other
>>>>> expressions
>>>>> of support -- for their confidence and approval electing Jeanette and me to
>>>>> the EURALO chairs. As Roberto stated some time ago, ³It is time to forget
>>>>> the
>>>>> discussions, and go ahead for the benefit of *the whole* EURALO³, ... and
>>>>> taking into account *the whole* spectrum of positions.³
>>>>>
>>>>> To me this does not mean to avoid controversies ³at any price² but they
>>>>> should
>>>>> be purely based on substance and issues, and we all should try our best to
>>>>> find consensus and to come up with decisions *for the benefit of the whole
>>>>> EURALO*. Thanks again and let¹s move on!
>>>>>
>>>>> Attached please find a draft for a planning sheet regarding work division
>>>>> and
>>>>> follow-up of ICANN-related issues. Those of you who did not express their
>>>>> preferences yet, please be so kind and (leave it open or) add your topics as
>>>>> to accomplish the draft. Thanks and
>>>>>
>>>>> best regards,
>>>>> Jeanette and Wolf
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Nick Ashton-Hart wrote Fri, 3 Aug 2007 11:18:
>>>>>> I would say that since there was only one candidate for each
>>>>>> position, and no adverse views were expressed in respect of either
>>>>>> candidacy over a period of weeks, it seems to me that Wolf and
>>>>>> Jeannette were elected by unanimous consent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I would say is that the Bylaws do provide for a single Chair and
>>>>>> a separate Vice-Chair, so Wolf would be the Chair and Jeannette the
>>>>>> vice-chair - though of course there is nothing to stop the two of
>>>>>> them effectively dividing the work equally so that they act jointly
>>>>>> as the Chair should they so wish (and without objection of the
>>>>>> members of the Board) - though of course it would be usual for Wolf
>>>>>> to act as sole Chair of Board meetings (unless he was unavailable in
>>>>>> which case of course Jeannette would act as Chair of the meeting as
>>>>>> the Bylaws provide).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will add the two of you to the Secretariats mailing list now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And congratulations :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 28 Jul 2007, at 00:40, Wolf Ludwig wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think it's done -- by Desiree's vote there is a clear majority
>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>> EURALO chairs according to the attached listing. I would like to ask
>>>>>>> Nick to check whether the requirements regarding the voting
>>>>>>> procedure are fulfilled and the result can be considered as valid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Wolf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Desiree Miloshevic wrote Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:09:
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would like to support the motion that Wolf and Jeannete act as
>>>>>>>> co-chairs of Euralo.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Desiree
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>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
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