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<div class="">From the perspective of my six NomCom years, I strongly support the arguments of Sandra,Tatiana &al about the need of experience in NomCom, and support Bastiaan for the job.</div>
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<div class="">Best,</div>
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<div class="">Yrjö<br class="">
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<div class="">On 9. May 2020, at 9.42, Johan Helsingius <<a href="mailto:julf@julf.com" class="">julf@julf.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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 totally agree with Tatiana, and strongly support Bastiaan.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">
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 08-05-2020 23:13, Tatiana Tropina wrote:</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">
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Dear all,<br class="">
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as an individual member of EURALO and as someone who has been<br class="">
involved with ICANN for quite some time, I would like to fully and<br class="">
vocally support the nomination of Bastiaan for the NomCom. <br class="">
What Sandra said is very much true: NomCom is not for the newcomers or<br class="">
for those who have been around for a couple of years. NomCom selects<br class="">
people for positions that are crucial for the functioning of the<br class="">
organizations. From outreach to various parts of the community to<br class="">
understand how the Board, GNSO, ccNSO function, and being able to<br class="">
actually carry out the interviews and deliberate -- it is absolutely<br class="">
essential that the person is mature and experienced and has a<br class="">
proven track record of devoting significant time to ICANN and actively<br class="">
participating in the community. One needs to understand how community<br class="">
works, what skills are needed for positions, and be able to assess the<br class="">
applicants of quite a senior level. <br class="">
Bastiaan's technical and policy experience, his involvement in both<br class="">
ICANN (and his proven track record of active participation) and a<br class="">
broader internet community make him a great candidate that can really<br class="">
represent EURALO and At-Large community "At-Large" on NomCom. So, thanks<br class="">
to Annette for the nomination, this is a great one. <br class="">
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Warm regards,<br class="">
Tatiana Tropina <br class="">
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On Fri, 8 May 2020 at 22:52, <<a href="mailto:info@hoferichter.eu" class="">info@hoferichter.eu</a><br class="">
<<a href="mailto:info@hoferichter.eu" class="">mailto:info@hoferichter.eu</a>>> wrote:<br class="">
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   Thank you Heidi, for re-posting. Later on I saw it was also further<br class="">
   down the original announcement.____<br class="">
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   __ __<br class="">
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   To bring more light into the criteria’s I share with you the number<br class="">
   of hours I spent on NomCom from November 2016 when I took seat until<br class="">
   June 2018 when our work was finished. You can deduct, let’s say 30 h<br class="">
   per year, for my work on the ICANN Academy – but the rest was only<br class="">
   NomCom related work. Wolfgang who is currently on the NomCom for<br class="">
   NCUC reports a similar number. That might help candidates to<br class="">
   understand a bit better how much work load it entails.____<br class="">
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   __ __<br class="">
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   Whilst I fully agree to bring in newcomers to the ALAC - the<br class="">
   delegation to NomCom is a senior position and needs more than 2-3<br class="">
   ICANN Meeting experiences. ____<br class="">
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   __ __<br class="">
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   Therefore I whole heartily support Annette’s proposal to nominate<br class="">
   Bastiaan Goslings! He hast two terms of ALAC experience (6 years)<br class="">
   and has in addition a big foot in the technical community.____<br class="">
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   __ __<br class="">
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   Best Sandra____<br class="">
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   __ __<br class="">
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   __ __<br class="">
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   *Von:*Mühlberg, Annette <<a href="mailto:annette.muehlberg@verdi.de" class="">annette.muehlberg@verdi.de</a><br class="">
   <<a href="mailto:annette.muehlberg@verdi.de" class="">mailto:annette.muehlberg@verdi.de</a>>><br class="">
   *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 21:16<br class="">
   *An:* Heidi Ullrich <<a href="mailto:Heidi.Ullrich@icann.org" class="">Heidi.Ullrich@icann.org</a><br class="">
   <<a href="mailto:Heidi.Ullrich@icann.org" class="">mailto:Heidi.Ullrich@icann.org</a>>>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:info@hoferichter.eu" class="">info@hoferichter.eu</a><br class="">
   <<a href="mailto:info@hoferichter.eu" class="">mailto:info@hoferichter.eu</a>>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" class="">euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br class="">
   <<a href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" class="">mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br class="">
   *Cc:* Bastiaan Goslings <<a href="mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net" class="">bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net</a><br class="">
   <<a href="mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net" class="">mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net</a>>><br class="">
   *Betreff:* AW: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR<br class="">
   NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____<br class="">
<br class="">
   __ __<br class="">
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   Dear All,____<br class="">
<br class="">
   thank you Heidi for clarifying the criteria. ____<br class="">
<br class="">
   As Bastiaan decided not to continue as an ALAC member, he might be<br class="">
   interested in a new type of work within ICANN. He is familiar with<br class="">
   „the ICANN groups to which the NomCom appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO,<br class="">
   ccNSO)“ and did a good job in the ALAC.____<br class="">
<br class="">
   I did not have the chance to talk with him yet, but to keep the<br class="">
   deadline today I would like to nominate Bastiaan Goslings for the<br class="">
   ALAC DELEGATE TO THE NOMCOM.____<br class="">
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   All the best____<br class="">
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   Annette____<br class="">
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   __ __<br class="">
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   *Von:* EURO-Discuss <<a href="mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" class="">euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br class="">
   <<a href="mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" class="">mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>> *Im Auftrag<br class="">
   von *Heidi Ullrich<br class="">
   *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 20:02<br class="">
   *An:*<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:info@hoferichter.eu" class="">info@hoferichter.eu</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:info@hoferichter.eu" class="">mailto:info@hoferichter.eu</a>>;<br class="">
   <a href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" class="">euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br class="">
   <<a href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" class="">mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br class="">
   *Betreff:* Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR<br class="">
   NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____<br class="">
<br class="">
   __ __<br class="">
<br class="">
   Dear All, ____<br class="">
<br class="">
   __ __<br class="">
<br class="">
   As requested by Sandra, please see the criteria for NomCom<br class="">
   Delegates. ____<br class="">
<br class="">
   __ __<br class="">
<br class="">
   _IMPORTANT: Criteria for NomCom Delegates<br class="">
<br class="">
   _The NomCom is responsible for selecting members of the ICANN Board,<br class="">
   ALAC, ccNSO and GNSO. This is a very important function and all<br class="">
   candidates should meet important criteria.____<br class="">
<br class="">
   __·       __Familiarity with the ICANN groups to which the NomCom<br class="">
   appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO, ccNSO).____<br class="">
<br class="">
   __·       __Ability to judge people (such as when interviewing and<br class="">
   hiring).____<br class="">
<br class="">
   __·       __Comfortable and preferably fluent with English<br class="">
   (listening, reading, speaking).____<br class="">
<br class="">
   __·       __Good on-line skills such as on Google & Social media____<br class="">
<br class="">
   __·       __Time Commitment - Must be willing to devote substantial<br class="">
   time under tight deadlines (March-June). Will involve travel to up<br class="">
   to 4 meetings.____<br class="">
<br class="">
   __·       __Ability work in a group environment, standing up for<br class="">
   what you believe in a discussion with other "strong" people, but at<br class="">
   the same time, must be a good listener and be willing to change your<br class="">
   mind if someone else has a good argument. Diplomacy is important.____<br class="">
<br class="">
   __ __<br class="">
<br class="">
   Also, RALOs may recommend one or more candidates to the ALAC. The<br class="">
   appointment if NomCom delegates is carried out by the ALAC.<br class="">
   Therefore, RALO recommendations are not binding.____<br class="">
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   __ __<br class="">
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   Kind regards,____<br class="">
<br class="">
   Heidi____<br class="">
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   __ __<br class="">
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   *From: *EURO-Discuss <<a href="mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" class="">euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br class="">
   <<a href="mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" class="">mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>> on behalf of<br class="">
   sandra hoferichter <<a href="mailto:info@hoferichter.eu" class="">info@hoferichter.eu</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:info@hoferichter.eu" class="">mailto:info@hoferichter.eu</a>>><br class="">
   *Date: *Friday, 8 May 2020 at 4:32 AM<br class="">
   *To: *"<a href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" class="">euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br class="">
   <<a href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" class="">mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>"<br class="">
   <<a href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" class="">euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br class="">
   <<a href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" class="">mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>><br class="">
   *Subject: *Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR<br class="">
   NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____<br class="">
<br class="">
   __ __<br class="">
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   Hi Clement, to my knowledge the ALAC has drafted such a document.<br class="">
   Staff could point to that. It was drafted at the time I was on the<br class="">
   NomCom, and I was asked for input.____<br class="">
<br class="">
   Since 2016 EURALO had only newcomers to the NomCom myself and Erich,<br class="">
   but both heavily involved for many years in the At-Large community. ____<br class="">
<br class="">
   Beside the names you mentioned there were other nominations on the<br class="">
   list. ____<br class="">
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   Best Sandra____<br class="">
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    ____<br class="">
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    ____<br class="">
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    ____<br class="">
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   *Von:* Dr Clement Genty <<a href="mailto:Clement@Genty.info" class="">Clement@Genty.info</a><br class="">
   <<a href="mailto:Clement@Genty.info" class="">mailto:Clement@Genty.info</a>>><br class="">
   *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 13:05<br class="">
   *An:*<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:info@hoferichter.eu" class="">info@hoferichter.eu</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:info@hoferichter.eu" class="">mailto:info@hoferichter.eu</a>><br class="">
   *Cc:*<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" class="">euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br class="">
   <<a href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" class="">mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br class="">
   *Betreff:* Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR<br class="">
   NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____<br class="">
<br class="">
    ____<br class="">
<br class="">
   Hi Sandra, Hi All,____<br class="">
<br class="">
   Is think that we have an interesting point here:____<br class="">
<br class="">
   Should we select someone with experience or try with someone new?____<br class="">
<br class="">
   If the position at Nomcom requires experience, why not make it<br class="">
   mandatory?____<br class="">
<br class="">
   By operating this way we will always have the same heads at Euralo<br class="">
   and that is really problematic. Apart from Matthias and Anne-Marie,<br class="">
   I don't see any young people who have taken the plunge?____<br class="">
<br class="">
   Then yes of course, Olivier is Sebastien's son and that could be<br class="">
   seen as nepotism but Olivier knows the subject and Seb is just one<br class="">
   voice among many others!____<br class="">
<br class="">
   This message comes to you today from an old country, France, who has<br class="">
   elected a president who's never been elected before, not even in a<br class="">
   small municipal election. And France has elected half of its<br class="">
   deputies who have no political experience.____<br class="">
<br class="">
   And it is quite working smile____<br class="">
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   My two cents,____<br class="">
<br class="">
   Clement____<br class="">
<br class="">
    ____<br class="">
<br class="">
   Le 08.05.2020 12:48,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:info@hoferichter.eu" class="">info@hoferichter.eu</a><br class="">
   <<a href="mailto:info@hoferichter.eu" class="">mailto:info@hoferichter.eu</a>> a écrit :____<br class="">
<br class="">
       Dear all, please don't misunderstand my intervention here as a<br class="">
       personal attract to nominations, but I think we have to clarify<br class="">
       that we should only send VERY experienced At-Large Community<br class="">
       members, that know the community in and out, have a lot of<br class="">
       personal contacts across constituencies and have understood how<br class="">
       ICANN functions in depth. In depth means also understand the<br class="">
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