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   1++ to Yrjö. The NomCom is NOT the place to learn, it is the place to deliver. 
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   Yrjö Länsipuro <yrjo_lansipuro@hotmail.com> hat am 9. Mai 2020 um 10:30 geschrieben: 
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   <br>Dear all,
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    From the perspective of my six NomCom years, I strongly support the arguments of Sandra,Tatiana &al about the need of experience in NomCom, and support Bastiaan for the job.
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    Best,
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    Yrjö 
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       On 9. May 2020, at 9.42, Johan Helsingius < 
       <a class="" href="mailto:julf@julf.com">julf@julf.com</a>> wrote:
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        Dear all, 
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        <br class="">as an individual member of EURALO and as someone who has been 
        <br class="">involved with ICANN for quite some time, I would like to fully and 
        <br class="">vocally support the nomination of Bastiaan for the NomCom.  
        <br class="">What Sandra said is very much true: NomCom is not for the newcomers or 
        <br class="">for those who have been around for a couple of years. NomCom selects 
        <br class="">people for positions that are crucial for the functioning of the 
        <br class="">organizations. From outreach to various parts of the community to 
        <br class="">understand how the Board, GNSO, ccNSO function, and being able to 
        <br class="">actually carry out the interviews and deliberate -- it is absolutely 
        <br class="">essential that the person is mature and experienced and has a 
        <br class="">proven track record of devoting significant time to ICANN and actively 
        <br class="">participating in the community. One needs to understand how community 
        <br class="">works, what skills are needed for positions, and be able to assess the 
        <br class="">applicants of quite a senior level.  
        <br class="">Bastiaan's technical and policy experience, his involvement in both 
        <br class="">ICANN (and his proven track record of active participation) and a 
        <br class="">broader internet community make him a great candidate that can really 
        <br class="">represent EURALO and At-Large community "At-Large" on NomCom. So, thanks 
        <br class="">to Annette for the nomination, this is a great one.  
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        <br class="">Warm regards, 
        <br class="">Tatiana Tropina  
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        <br class="">On Fri, 8 May 2020 at 22:52, < 
        <a class="" href="mailto:info@hoferichter.eu">info@hoferichter.eu</a> 
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        <a class="" href="mailto:info@hoferichter.eu">mailto:info@hoferichter.eu</a>>> wrote: 
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        <br class="">   Thank you Heidi, for re-posting. Later on I saw it was also further 
        <br class="">   down the original announcement.____ 
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        <br class="">   __ __ 
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        <br class="">   To bring more light into the criteria’s I share with you the number 
        <br class="">   of hours I spent on NomCom from November 2016 when I took seat until 
        <br class="">   June 2018 when our work was finished. You can deduct, let’s say 30 h 
        <br class="">   per year, for my work on the ICANN Academy – but the rest was only 
        <br class="">   NomCom related work. Wolfgang who is currently on the NomCom for 
        <br class="">   NCUC reports a similar number. That might help candidates to 
        <br class="">   understand a bit better how much work load it entails.____ 
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        <br class="">   __ __ 
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        <br class="">   Whilst I fully agree to bring in newcomers to the ALAC - the 
        <br class="">   delegation to NomCom is a senior position and needs more than 2-3 
        <br class="">   ICANN Meeting experiences. ____ 
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        <br class="">   __ __ 
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        <br class="">   Therefore I whole heartily support Annette’s proposal to nominate 
        <br class="">   Bastiaan Goslings! He hast two terms of ALAC experience (6 years) 
        <br class="">   and has in addition a big foot in the technical community.____ 
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        <br class="">   __ __ 
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        <br class="">   Best Sandra____ 
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        <br class="">   __ __ 
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        <br class="">   __ __ 
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        <br class="">   *Von:*Mühlberg, Annette < 
        <a class="" href="mailto:annette.muehlberg@verdi.de">annette.muehlberg@verdi.de</a> 
        <br class="">   < 
        <a class="" href="mailto:annette.muehlberg@verdi.de">mailto:annette.muehlberg@verdi.de</a>>> 
        <br class="">   *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 21:16 
        <br class="">   *An:* Heidi Ullrich < 
        <a class="" href="mailto:Heidi.Ullrich@icann.org">Heidi.Ullrich@icann.org</a> 
        <br class="">   < 
        <a class="" href="mailto:Heidi.Ullrich@icann.org">mailto:Heidi.Ullrich@icann.org</a>>>; 
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        <a class="" href="mailto:info@hoferichter.eu">info@hoferichter.eu</a> 
        <br class="">   < 
        <a class="" href="mailto:info@hoferichter.eu">mailto:info@hoferichter.eu</a>>; 
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        <a class="" href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org">euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a> 
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        <a class="" href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org">mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>> 
        <br class="">   *Cc:* Bastiaan Goslings < 
        <a class="" href="mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net">bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net</a> 
        <br class="">   < 
        <a class="" href="mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net">mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net</a>>> 
        <br class="">   *Betreff:* AW: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR 
        <br class="">   NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____ 
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        <br class="">   __ __ 
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        <br class="">   Dear All,____ 
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        <br class="">   thank you Heidi for clarifying the criteria. ____ 
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        <br class="">   As Bastiaan decided not to continue as an ALAC member, he might be 
        <br class="">   interested in a new type of work within ICANN. He is familiar with 
        <br class="">   „the ICANN groups to which the NomCom appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO, 
        <br class="">   ccNSO)“ and did a good job in the ALAC.____ 
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        <br class="">   I did not have the chance to talk with him yet, but to keep the 
        <br class="">   deadline today I would like to nominate Bastiaan Goslings for the 
        <br class="">   ALAC DELEGATE TO THE NOMCOM.____ 
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        <br class="">   All the best____ 
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        <br class="">   Annette____ 
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        <br class="">   __ __ 
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        <br class="">   *Von:* EURO-Discuss < 
        <a class="" href="mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a> 
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        <a class="" href="mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>> *Im Auftrag 
        <br class="">   von *Heidi Ullrich 
        <br class="">   *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 20:02 
        <br class="">   *An:* 
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        <a class="" href="mailto:info@hoferichter.eu">info@hoferichter.eu</a> 
        <span class="ox-2e1a3ad1d4-Apple-converted-space"> </span>< 
        <a class="" href="mailto:info@hoferichter.eu">mailto:info@hoferichter.eu</a>>; 
        <br class="">    
        <a class="" href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org">euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a> 
        <br class="">   < 
        <a class="" href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org">mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>> 
        <br class="">   *Betreff:* Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR 
        <br class="">   NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____ 
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        <br class="">   __ __ 
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        <br class="">   Dear All, ____ 
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        <br class="">   __ __ 
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        <br class="">   As requested by Sandra, please see the criteria for NomCom 
        <br class="">   Delegates. ____ 
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        <br class="">   __ __ 
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        <br class="">   _IMPORTANT: Criteria for NomCom Delegates 
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        <br class="">   _The NomCom is responsible for selecting members of the ICANN Board, 
        <br class="">   ALAC, ccNSO and GNSO. This is a very important function and all 
        <br class="">   candidates should meet important criteria.____ 
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        <br class="">   __·       __Familiarity with the ICANN groups to which the NomCom 
        <br class="">   appoints (Board, ALAC, GNSO, ccNSO).____ 
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        <br class="">   __·       __Ability to judge people (such as when interviewing and 
        <br class="">   hiring).____ 
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        <br class="">   __·       __Comfortable and preferably fluent with English 
        <br class="">   (listening, reading, speaking).____ 
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        <br class="">   __·       __Good on-line skills such as on Google & Social media____ 
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        <br class="">   __·       __Time Commitment - Must be willing to devote substantial 
        <br class="">   time under tight deadlines (March-June). Will involve travel to up 
        <br class="">   to 4 meetings.____ 
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        <br class="">   __·       __Ability work in a group environment, standing up for 
        <br class="">   what you believe in a discussion with other "strong" people, but at 
        <br class="">   the same time, must be a good listener and be willing to change your 
        <br class="">   mind if someone else has a good argument. Diplomacy is important.____ 
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        <br class="">   __ __ 
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        <br class="">   Also, RALOs may recommend one or more candidates to the ALAC. The 
        <br class="">   appointment if NomCom delegates is carried out by the ALAC. 
        <br class="">   Therefore, RALO recommendations are not binding.____ 
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        <br class="">   __ __ 
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        <br class="">   Kind regards,____ 
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        <br class="">   Heidi____ 
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        <br class="">   __ __ 
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        <br class="">   *From: *EURO-Discuss < 
        <a class="" href="mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a> 
        <br class="">   < 
        <a class="" href="mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org">mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>> on behalf of 
        <br class="">   sandra hoferichter < 
        <a class="" href="mailto:info@hoferichter.eu">info@hoferichter.eu</a> 
        <span class="ox-2e1a3ad1d4-Apple-converted-space"> </span>< 
        <a class="" href="mailto:info@hoferichter.eu">mailto:info@hoferichter.eu</a>>> 
        <br class="">   *Date: *Friday, 8 May 2020 at 4:32 AM 
        <br class="">   *To: *" 
        <a class="" href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org">euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a> 
        <br class="">   < 
        <a class="" href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org">mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>" 
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        <a class="" href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org">euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a> 
        <br class="">   < 
        <a class="" href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org">mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>> 
        <br class="">   *Subject: *Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR 
        <br class="">   NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____ 
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        <br class="">   Hi Clement, to my knowledge the ALAC has drafted such a document. 
        <br class="">   Staff could point to that. It was drafted at the time I was on the 
        <br class="">   NomCom, and I was asked for input.____ 
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        <br class="">   Since 2016 EURALO had only newcomers to the NomCom myself and Erich, 
        <br class="">   but both heavily involved for many years in the At-Large community. ____ 
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        <br class="">   Beside the names you mentioned there were other nominations on the 
        <br class="">   list. ____ 
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        <br class="">   Best Sandra____ 
        <br class="">
        <br class="">    ____ 
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        <br class="">    ____ 
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        <br class="">    ____ 
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        <br class="">   *Von:* Dr Clement Genty < 
        <a class="" href="mailto:Clement@Genty.info">Clement@Genty.info</a> 
        <br class="">   < 
        <a class="" href="mailto:Clement@Genty.info">mailto:Clement@Genty.info</a>>> 
        <br class="">   *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 13:05 
        <br class="">   *An:* 
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        <a class="" href="mailto:info@hoferichter.eu">info@hoferichter.eu</a> 
        <span class="ox-2e1a3ad1d4-Apple-converted-space"> </span>< 
        <a class="" href="mailto:info@hoferichter.eu">mailto:info@hoferichter.eu</a>> 
        <br class="">   *Cc:* 
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        <a class="" href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org">euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a> 
        <br class="">   < 
        <a class="" href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org">mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>> 
        <br class="">   *Betreff:* Re: [EURO-Discuss] RECORDED / Re: IMPORTANT: CALL FOR 
        <br class="">   NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2020 ALAC, RALO AND ALAC DELEGATES TO THE NOMCOM____ 
        <br class="">
        <br class="">    ____ 
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        <br class="">   Hi Sandra, Hi All,____ 
        <br class="">
        <br class="">   Is think that we have an interesting point here:____ 
        <br class="">
        <br class="">   Should we select someone with experience or try with someone new?____ 
        <br class="">
        <br class="">   If the position at Nomcom requires experience, why not make it 
        <br class="">   mandatory?____ 
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        <br class="">   By operating this way we will always have the same heads at Euralo 
        <br class="">   and that is really problematic. Apart from Matthias and Anne-Marie, 
        <br class="">   I don't see any young people who have taken the plunge?____ 
        <br class="">
        <br class="">   Then yes of course, Olivier is Sebastien's son and that could be 
        <br class="">   seen as nepotism but Olivier knows the subject and Seb is just one 
        <br class="">   voice among many others!____ 
        <br class="">
        <br class="">   This message comes to you today from an old country, France, who has 
        <br class="">   elected a president who's never been elected before, not even in a 
        <br class="">   small municipal election. And France has elected half of its 
        <br class="">   deputies who have no political experience.____ 
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        <br class="">   And it is quite working smile____ 
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        <br class="">   My two cents,____ 
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        <br class="">   Clement____ 
        <br class="">
        <br class="">    ____ 
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        <br class="">   Le 08.05.2020 12:48, 
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        <br class="">       Dear all, please don't misunderstand my intervention here as a 
        <br class="">       personal attract to nominations, but I think we have to clarify 
        <br class="">       that we should only send VERY experienced At-Large Community 
        <br class="">       members, that know the community in and out, have a lot of 
        <br class="">       personal contacts across constituencies and have understood how 
        <br class="">       ICANN functions in depth. In depth means also understand the 
        <br class="">       dynamics that are nowhere written in a guide book and that you 
        <br class="">       don't get from a distance.____ 
        <br class="">
        <br class="">       On top it is a very time consuming task. Having been on NomCom 
        <br class="">       from 2016-2018 I can truly say so.____ 
        <br class="">
        <br class="">        ____ 
        <br class="">
        <br class="">       The power of ALAC comes via the NomCom because we have 5 seats 
        <br class="">       there (more than any other AC/SO/SG) that decide over the key 
        <br class="">       personnel at ICANN.____ 
        <br class="">
        <br class="">       Lets use this power wisely!____ 
        <br class="">
        <br class="">        ____ 
        <br class="">
        <br class="">       My two cents____ 
        <br class="">
        <br class="">       Sandra ____ 
        <br class="">
        <br class="">        ____ 
        <br class="">
        <br class="">   -- ____ 
        <br class="">
        <br class="">   Dr Clement Genty 
        <br class="">   Meursault (Côte d'Or) - France____ 
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