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Olivier,
<div class="">This is maybe something we can discuss at the next Board meeting.</div>
<div class="">I fully understand that this is an important topic, I am only under the impression that it normally does not take 10’ but maybe 1/2h, and that it is mainly reporting, non discussion and contribution from the ALSes. If others have a different perception,
 please correct me.</div>
<div class="">If we had a leal interaction, I would welcome even a full hour of discussion, but if it is only one-way communication of the status of the different issues - which is anyway contained in the reference materials - it might be not the most efficient
 way to use the prime time of the teleconference, in particular for those among the participants who have already made the effort of going through the materials.</div>
<div class="">Anyway, I might have biased perceptions of the reality, so I’ll shut up and move to “read only” mode 😁.</div>
<div class="">See you (virtually) later tonight.</div>
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<div class="">On 09.07.2019, at 14:49, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" class="">ocl@gih.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class="">Dear Roberto,<br class="">
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policy is a very important part, in fact the major part of why we as individuals and At-Large Structures are involved in ICANN. We do not do outreach for the sake of bringing more people to enjoy themselves in a social club. We do outreach to get a wider footprint
 into input to ICANN's policy processes. So I find it hard to reduce the policy update further, when it is only at 10 minutes length. Whilst I agree that we could omit repeating the points made in recent Statements, which participants can read in their own
 time, I do feel that we need to take the time to go through every policy comment period that are currently open in order to solicit input from the European region.<br class="">
I'll add to this that the amount of input from European participants in ICANN's policy processes is already very poor for the level of knowledge and literacy in this region. Indeed shamefully poor when it comes to the lack of input received regarding one of
 the regular focus topics that is the EPDP which at the end of the day is a process that originated in Europe and where we already have a lot of knowledge. I am always hoping that speaking about the policy processes raises interest in our participants to get
 actively involved, but perhaps I am wrong. How can we do this better?<br class="">
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Hi Olivier.
<div class="">No amendment to the agenda, just the usual concern about time.</div>
<div class="">I am wondering whether new can keep agenda item 3 (public consultations) in 10min - or even less - avoiding, for instance, long explanations on what has happened and what is the status and do only Q&A. The agenda points to enough documentation
 on every item in the list, and there is no reason why members cannot read the material before the meeting instead of using prime time for what is necessarily only a summary of what is already available.</div>
<div class="">When I have raised this in the past I have been told that we cannot guarantee that participants have read the material - to this, my cynical half replies that we cannot guarantee either that participants listen to the summary.</div>
<div class="">Cheers,</div>
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<div class="">On 09.07.2019, at 08:51, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">ocl@gih.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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 have updated the agenda for our EURALO call on this evening. Please review the agenda and let me know in advance if you would like to add/amend the agenda.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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On 05/07/2019 12:12, ICANN At-Large Staff wrote:<br class="">
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                none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">)
 and the website Terms of Service (</span><a href="https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos" style="color:
                rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;
                font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style:
                normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
                letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align:
                start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
                white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
                -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
                -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color:
                rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos</a><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
                Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal;
                font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal;
                letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent:
                0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
                word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
                background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration:
                none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">).
 You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.</span></div>
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