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Dear Michele,<br>
<br>
in a bit of a rush at present, but re: why so many people funded to
come to ICANN meetings, it is all part of building a balanced
multistakeholder community. In fact some of the people that were
funded to come were also from governments and they brought back
their experience to their government, which had positive political
implications back there. These implications cannot be calculated by
exact science, like a return on investment. But they have had an
impact in other fora such as on the ITU discussions, OECD, and
government stances out there.<br>
As for funding people to go to non-ICANN events, there are two
reasons:<br>
1. the people that go to these non-ICANN events are the community
face of ICANN and have managed to improve ICANN's image greatly
through engaging with the rest of the world<br>
2. the people that have gone to these non-ICANN events have managed
to bring more people in the ICANN processes that ended up in
leadership positions. <br>
<br>
In fact with the GDPR we have a case in point about why ICANN needs
to engage out there: whilst GDPR development was going on in
Brussels for several years, nobody at ICANN listened when community
members pointed out that it was important to be not only aware but
engage in the discussions. ICANN's failure to address this because
it was too busy looking at its own self image of IANA Stewardship
Transition & ICANN Accountability, has now put it in front of a
serious problem, namely that it is completely unprepared a few
months from enforcement. So OK now we're working on GDPR, but what
else is out there, waiting to bite us? There is a continuum of more
stuff coming our way and having community members out there as both
lookouts and emissaries is way cheaper than having a department of
over 50 staff working on this. In fact, supporting the community to
perform this task is a very economical way to do it as you don't
need to pay them salaries.<br>
<br>
But I do agree, though, that there should be improvements to the
accountability of who is sent out there, with "bad actors", those
who are using the system for tourism, being blacklisted so they do
not continue to abuse the system. <br>
<br>
Kindest regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 23/02/2018 13:15, Michele Neylon -
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Roberto Gaetano
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com"><roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday 23 February 2018 at 13:56<br>
<b>To: </b>Michele Neylon <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com"><michele@blacknight.com></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b>S Van Gelder <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:svg@milathan.ltd"><svg@milathan.ltd></a>, Euralo
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org"><euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [EURO-Discuss] Should EURALO sign a
petition? Should you?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Michele, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree with you - the matter is very
complex, that’s why I have difficulties in reducing it to a
petition yes/no. What we need to do is to have a deeper
analysis on the budget and the priorities.
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This said, my gut feeling is that the
cuts do not apply in a fair way neither geopolitically nor
by stakeholder type. But this is a consequence of he fact
that there is no discussion about the priorities. The big
question is whether outreach, in particular towards the
less represented stakeholder (Internet users), is a
priority and whether geopolitical representation is a
priority. If we fail to stand up and bringing this issue
to the table, with data and convincing arguments and not
just gut feeling or self-serving arguments, then we cannot
complain.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Roberto<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 23.02.2018, at 13:11, Michele
Neylon - Blacknight <<a
href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">michele@blacknight.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Roberto</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><br>
There’s a much deeper issue – ICANN has spent a
lot of money on a load of different programmes
but has very little data to measure the ROI /
KPIs etc</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">If EURALO or
anyone else wants to submit comments on the
budget cuts they should be pragmatic and
realistic.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">There is no
way that ICANN can keep spending money that it
does not have.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Michele</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Mr Michele
Neylon</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">From:<span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">EURO-Discuss <<a
href="mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>
on behalf of Roberto Gaetano <<a
href="mailto:roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wednesday
21 February 2018 at 23:07<br>
<b>To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>S
Van Gelder <<a
href="mailto:svg@milathan.ltd"
moz-do-not-send="true">svg@milathan.ltd</a>><br>
<b>Cc:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Euralo
<<a
href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re:
[EURO-Discuss] Should EURALO sign a petition?
Should you?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailOriginalBody"
moz-do-not-send="true">My personal opinion is
that the question is not about the budget cuts -
if cuts are needed, let it be so - but how the
cuts are affecting the different stakeholders.
The question for me is whether the impact of the
cuts on the different stakeholder groups is fair
or whether there is one part of the community
that is affected more than others.<o:p></o:p></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Still,
the question of whether a petition is in order
or not holds. But on the other question, that
is whether the affected communities should
raise the issue, my position is “Yes,
definitively”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Andrei
is right. We need data. What is the
foreseeable consequence of this budget cut on
internet users? My personal opinion is that in
the users community most of the outreach is
through the means that are now been reduced.
This will simply mean that we put further
obstacles to user participation. But we need
more than just personal opinions if we want to
build a case.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Roberto<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">On
21.02.2018, at 22:15, Stéphane Van
Gelder - Milathan <</span><a
href="mailto:svg@milathan.ltd"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span
style="color:purple">svg@milathan.ltd</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Completely
agree with Andrei. I oppose the
signing of a petition to oppose cuts.
I would add to his reasons the fact
that the Board Chair and the CEO have
both laid down extremely well
articulated arguments for why budget
cuts are needed. I would worry that a
EURALO response through a petition
would not only look political, it
would look immature.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">If
we have strong arguments as to why
some cuts should not happen, let’s
produce them through the usual ICANN
discussion channels open to us.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Stéphane <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">On
21 Feb 2018, at 21:24, Andrei
Kolesnikov <</span><a
href="mailto:andrei@rol.ru"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span
style="color:purple">andrei@rol.ru</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">I'm
against signing any petition
on</span><a
href="http://change.org/"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="color:purple">change.org</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">,
because it sounds political.
If community is against the
cut, this must be
articulated with facts,
numbers and names. I don't
like personnel cost
increase, but this is
another issue. --andrei<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">2018-02-21
20:06 GMT+03:00 Olivier MJ
Crépin-Leblond <</span><a
href="mailto:ocl@gih.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><span style="color:purple">ocl@gih.com</span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span
style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Dear colleagues,<br>
<br>
on yesterday's EURALO
monthly call, the
following Action Item
was recorded.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Crepin-Leblond</span></span><span
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style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"> Olivier
to follow up on the
EURALO mailing list
on the suggestion
from Oksana for
EURALO support the
petition against
reduction of the
ICANN fellowship as
well as to write an
EURALO statement
against the CROP
elimination.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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As you know, the ICANN
FY19 budget is
undergoing to
reduction. This will
mean that some
programmes are frozen,
whilst others are
actually reduced. The
current draft of the
program is showing
drastic cuts in
community engagement
and policy. The
Fellowship is being
slashed, and so is the
NextGen program. The
Community Regional
Outreach Pilot Program
(CROP) which was
confirmed into the
main budget as it was
seen as being so
helpful, is being
cancelled altogether.
It is a terrible state
of affairs, as it
appears that ICANN has
targeted community
initiatives for
outreach and
engagement to a much
greater extent that
other programmes and
the cuts, as a
percentage of the
budget for outreach
and engagement
initiatives are way
larger than for other
programmes.<br>
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You might has seen a
petition out there,
entitled "Stop the
ICANN Budget Cuts and
Save the Fellowship
Program!"<br>
On last night's EURALO
call, Oksana Prykhodko
asked whether EURALO
could be inclined to
sign this petition:<br>
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The signing of a
petition is highly
unusual for a RALO. I
can recall several
occurrences of a RALO
releasing its own
Statement. I can also
recall EURALO
supporting EuroDIG as
a partner - and this
translates to the
EURALO Chair
(previously Wolf
Ludwig and now yours
truly) being active in
the organisation of
EuroDIG. If my memory
serves me right, the
only time EURALO has
signed a Petition,
might be the signature
for support of
NetMundial outcomes.
Perhaps can Wolf help
with other potential
occurences?<br>
<br>
At the end of the day,
there are no rules on
whether EURALO may or
may not sign this
petition. So the
decision is in your
hands, the EURALO
members.<span
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Should EURALO sign the
petition?<br>
Should your ALS sign
the petition?<span
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Kindest regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier MJ
Crépin-Leblond<br>
EURALO Chair<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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