<div dir="ltr">Hello all, <div><br></div><div>Just wanted to add that I totally agree on the set in the correspondence priorities of EURALO' activities. (Yet, having priorities means also that several tasks are followed. </div><div><br></div><div>Looking at the issue as simple as possible - if there are bylaws, these have to be complying with the real situation. </div><div><br></div><div>So, I would like to thank Olivier for the very practical advice on the way to move forward with this issue.</div><div><br>In this way, the discussion on the bylaws' review could be at least outlined in order to proceed with it after Dublin. </div><div><br></div><div>All the best, </div><div>Plamena </div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-08-03 19:42 GMT+03:00 Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" target="_blank">ocl@gih.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Hello all,<br>
<br>
I have been following with great interest the thread about
examination of Bylaws from its start and I apologise if I have not
been active earlier but I was busy in recent weeks.<br>
<br>
In my opinion, the very fact that we are having this conversation
makes me think that we will indeed need to review the EURALO Bylaws.
But we also have to be aware of one thing: whilst Bylaws Review
might be interesting for a subset of EURALO members, a discussion
about the Bylaws during our EURALO General Assembly in Dublin will
bore most people in the room, especially people who are not lawyers.<br>
<br>
I therefore suggest the following:<br>
<br>
1. A EURALO Bylaws Review group could be formed, with its own
mailing list and it should select a Chair to drive the Bylaw Review
work forward. It will start its work as soon as its Chair decides to
move forward.<br>
2. In Dublin, the EURALO Bylaws Review Working Group will meet face
to face to make good use of the ability to meet face to face, to
make as much progress as possible on the Bylaws revision. It could
spend 90 minutes working face to face (which is the usual length of
a full ICANN Session). Staff could arrange for a room/time for the
group to meet.<br>
3. In Dublin, the EURALO Bylaws working group will have 10-15
minutes (including question time) during the EURALO General Assembly
to explain their progress to the other EURALO members.<br>
<br>
I do not expect the work to progress so quickly for the EURALO
Bylaws Review to be ready to have a full set of proposed revisions
for the whole of EURALO to decide on. Time is just way too short.<br>
I also expect that this working group will not take all of EURALO
member time, and thus hope that EURALO members will be able to
engage in many other projects. <br>
<br>
Indeed, I am especially keen to see EURALO members engage in ICANN
Policy Work and am thrilled to note that some of our ALSes have
recently commented directly in ICANN policy processes. If only I
could convince their representative to hold the pen on some ALAC
Statements! :-)<br>
<br>
For your kind reminder, you can see all of the work the ALAC does in
Policy on: <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/bwFO" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/x/bwFO</a><br>
<br>
We have BIG questions that have just opened: The IANA Stewardship
Transition Proposal, the ICANN Accountability Proposal (which will
open in a few hours) and the Next Generation gTLD Registration
Directory Services to Replace WHOIS preliminary report. All of this
is taking place during August (and some closing in early September)
so when you are taking a break from work, choose your topic, read
the reports, comment.<br>
<br>
Kindest regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On 29/07/2015 20:05, Plamena Popova
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Dear all,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It was not my intention to insist on the overcoming
(compared to issues as IANA transition etc.) priority of
bylaws' review for EURALO nor to include this into the agenda
for Dublin' meeting. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>On the other hand, it should be noticed that this is not
first time when the review of bylaws is asked. </div>
<div><br>
The fact that the bylaws does not correspond to the current
situation in EURALO could not be neglected for indefinite
period.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>As for the meaningful changes - these proposals may be a
result of a work on the issue (though I think that some
problems were already raised even in the above
correspondence). </div>
<div><br>
So I totally agree with Chris that this represents an issue
that should be addressed at some point after Dublin (the
meeting could however provide opportunity for start thinking
on these). </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>All the best, </div>
<div>Plamena </div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2015-07-29 1:26 GMT+03:00 Roberto
Gaetano <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com" target="_blank">roberto_gaetano@hotmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">If there is the need to improve the
bylaws, of course this needs to be done.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">On the other hand, before deciding to
dedicate prime time in Dublin to address this point,
we need to be sure that we are not unnecessarily
postponing more important and/or urgent issues, or
even wasting time in pointless discussions.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">When this issue was raised a couple of
years ago, my question was: “What exactly do we need
to change and why?”</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">I still believe that, before including
this item in the agenda for Dublin (or even for
other meetings before or after Dublin), we need to
have a meaningful answer to this question.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">Cheers,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">Roberto</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
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<a href="mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-" target="_blank">euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-</a></span><span><a href="http://lists.icann.org" target="_blank">lists.icann.org</a>] <b>Per
conto di </b>Plamena Popova<br>
<b>Inviato:</b> martedì 28 luglio 2015 21:03<br>
<b>A:</b> Chris LaHatte<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Euralo; Oksana Prykhodko<br>
<b>Oggetto:</b> Re: [EURO-Discuss] nomination
for EURALO officers</span></p>
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<div>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hello all, </p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Of course, there are
issues which are of immediate importance for
EURALO. </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">While the need of
reforming the bylaws (as Chris points) is
also apparent and should be addressed sooner
or later. </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">So, I believe that Dublin
will provide an opportunity to start
thinking on the options. </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">All the best, </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Plamena </p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">2015-07-28 10:53
GMT+03:00 Chris LaHatte <<a href="mailto:chris.lahatte@icann.org" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:chris.lahatte@icann.org" target="_blank">chris.lahatte@icann.org</a>>:</p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I agree with the
priorities Bill. But sooner or later,
this does need to be tackled, perhaps
after Dublin. It's not very exciting of
course, perhaps a project for a keen
young newbie?<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPad</p>
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<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
On 28/07/2015, at 7:30 pm, William
Drake <<a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">It is not
entirely evident to me from the
discussion thus far that a
bylaws revision is the most
pressing challenge facing
Euralo. I suppose there may
well be some ways in which they
could be improved, but I doubt
these account for e.g.
relatively low engagement and
productivity in ICANN policy
processes. I’d think we would
want to see what could be done
about that first. Wolf’s good
suggestion of focusing the
Dublin discussion on European
user perspectives on the global
public interest would seem to
offer the possibility of a
vibrant discussion, which could
lead to people feeling primed to
go further and build some
momentum as a community.
Concentrating on bylaws or
apparent historical
interpersonal disputes would
probably have the opposite
effect. So why not set
priorities and then tackle
things in sequence?</p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best</p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Bill</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Jul
26, 2015, at 11:54 PM, Chris
LaHatte <<a href="mailto:chris.lahatte@icann.org" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:chris.lahatte@icann.org" target="_blank">chris.lahatte@icann.org</a>>
wrote:</p>
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<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#1f497d">If
I may add my views, it
may be useful, when
members have the time
(and I do know this is
a frantically busy
time for our
volunteers with the
IANA discussions), to
start a bylaw review.
Members will be aware
that some issues have
arisen about
interpretation, and
perhaps when the WGs
have finished the
current rounds of
talks, someone could
initiate this.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#1f497d">Regards</span></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">Chris
LaHatte</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple"></span></a><a href="mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a></span> [<a href="mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple"></span></a><a href="mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Plamena
Popova<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday,
July 26, 2015 4:11 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Wolf Ludwig
<<a href="mailto:wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple"></span></a><a href="mailto:wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net" target="_blank">wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Discussion
for At-Large Europe
<<a href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple"></span></a><a href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>;
Oksana Prykhodko <<a href="mailto:sana.pryhod@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple"></span></a><a href="mailto:sana.pryhod@gmail.com" target="_blank">sana.pryhod@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re:
[EURO-Discuss]
nomination for EURALO
officers</p>
</div>
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</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hello
Wolf, </p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
Thanks a lot for the
detailed reply and
clarifications :) It
is much easier to
understand the whole
picture now. </p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Unfortunately,
I was not able to
take part in these
discussions till
this moment. </p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
As stated above, the
initial intention
was to register
EURALO in Germany
and the Bylaws
follow basically the
german law'
requirements (and
this is why the
registration is
mentioned in the
bylaws itself). </p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">So
I was thinking - if
the initial
intention (for
registration) is
abandoned (due to
the following
discussions and
compromises within
the association) may
be it would be
proper the bylaws to
be adapted to the
new situation? </p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Eventual
review and
adaptation of the
bylaws may be a good
idea in order these
to serve to the
current/actual
will/perception of
the EURALO' members
of the processes
within the
organisation. I keep
thinking that (the
bylaws) should be in
line with the actual
intentions of the
organisation in
question. </p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">By
the way, eventual
amendments of bylaws
are under the
competency of GA
according to the
same bylaws. Anyway
- I did not see any
specific procedure
for
review/amendments
included in the
bylaws.</p>
</div>
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<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks
again. </p>
</div>
</div>
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</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">All
the best, </p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Plamena </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2015-07-24
0:24 GMT+03:00 Wolf
Ludwig <<a href="mailto:wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple"></span></a><a href="mailto:wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net" target="_blank">wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net</a>>:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hello
Plamena,<br>
<br>
thanks for your
questions (even if
some of them have
been discussed and
answered before).
Allow me to insert
my answers below.<br>
<br>
Plamena Popova wrote
Thu, 23 Jul 2015
19:37:<br>
(...)<br>
>So a few
questions were
invoked.<br>
><br>
>First I am
curious (it may be
an ignorant
question, but I
prefer to receive<br>
>clarity) whether
EURALO is indeed
registered under any
legal system of any<br>
>European
country?<br>
>As Art. 1.1.
states "1 The
Association bears
the name “ICANN
European<br>
>Internet Users
Forum” (hereinafter
referred to as “The
Association”) and<br>
>shall be
registered as
required by law"<br>
<br>
(Wolf) EURALO’s
Bylaws were drafted
between autumn 2006
and spring 2007 by
some of the founding
members (Annette
Mühlberg, Christoph
Bruch etc.) and
mainly according to
German association
law standards (which
are complex,
detailed and
strict). That’s the
reason why some
parts (e. g. Part E,
Financial matters,
Art. 7 f., parts of
Art. 9 or 10) were
designed bulky,
theoretical and
beyond the practical
requirements of
EURALO. Lighter
bylaw standards or
versions (such as
Belgian or Swiss
standards) were
unfortunately not
considered at the
time. After the
drafting was
accomplished, there
was a strong
opposition among
founding members
against an official
registration in
Germany (what is
usually a
“eingetragener
Verein” or
registered
association). The
compromise was to
have a parallel MoU
with ICANN what was
a basic requirement
for EURALO’s
recognition by ICANN
and its operation
afterwards.
Consequently, EURALO
was created inline
with the ICANN
meeting in spring
2007 in Lisbon by
signing the MoU with
ICANN (members who
signed at the time
were Annette
Mühlberg, Sébastien
Bachollet, Rudi
Vansnick, Vittorio
Bertola etc.).
Roberto Gaetano was
also closely
involved at that
time, being on the
ICANN Board more in
an “observer” role.<br>
<br>
>So the question
invoked is in order
to clarify which law
is in fact<br>
>applicable or
shall be applicable
(when and if
registered) to the<br>
>Association.<br>
<br>
(Wolf) As mentioned
before, as there was
no compromise found
“under which law” or
in which country
EURALO should be
registered, there
was no registration
at the time. In
various European
countries a
registration is not
mandatory for
non-profit
associations (unlike
business entities).<br>
<br>
>As per the
current situation
(if understand it
correctly) - Euralo<br>
>represents an
association (if not
registered) of
organisations (legal<br>
>persons
themselves) which
activity is followed
by norms (bylaws)
whose<br>
>legal nature is
quite uncertain.<br>
><br>
>The Memorandum
with ICANN is signed
by single
organisations, not
by EURALO<br>
>as a legal
person.<br>
<br>
(Wolf) The MoU with
ICANN was signed by
members /
individuals being
present in Lisbon at
the time on behalf
of their
organisations
(certified ALSes).
And not by EURALO,
as you assume, “as a
legal person”.<br>
<br>
>So I think that
there is a point to
ask clarifications
on the legal basis.<br>
<br>
(Wolf) As mentioned
before, there was no
requirement for the
founding members to
create such a “legal
basis” or entity.
The operational
basis for EURALO is
the MoU with ICANN
by fulfilling
respective
requirements and the
substance of our
Bylaws like
organizing one GA
per year, presenting
and approving an
annual report,
holding elections of
officers and being
accountable towards
its members (these
are basic
prescriptions of
different European
association laws).
Over 8 years since
its inception these
rules were always
approved with vast
majorities of
EURALO’s members.<br>
<br>
>As per the other
issues raised in the
correspondence - I
have some thoughts<br>
>on these also:
Wolf is referring to
11.5.9. of the
Bylaws - so I was<br>
>wondering
whether the online
voting for
Secretariat in 2013
(after the GA<br>
>in Lisbon)
represents a GA
itself under the
meaning of 11.7 of
the bylaws<br>
>(pointing out
specific
requirements for a
meeting online or
other to be a<br>
>GA) or not.<br>
<br>
(Wolf) In my
previous mail you
refer to, I was
pointing to Art.
11.5.9.
(“Installation of
the Secretariat and
review of the
working of the
same“) what simply
confirms the rule
and mandate of the
GA for selecting the
Secretariat. The
“online voting for
Secretariat in 2013
after the GA in
Lisbon” – you
mentioned as well –
was based and
necessary according
to Art. 11.20. („For
all elections in the
General Assembly,
candidates shall
require an absolute
majority of votes of
the participating
members. If no
candidate receives
an absolute majority
a run-off election
shall take place
between the two
candidates with the
greatest number of
votes.“). As
repeatedly noted
before, DUE TO a
*non-absolute
majority* during the
GA the necessity of
a run-off election
was confirmed in
Lisbon by 5 Board
members
independently
checking our bylaw
prescription (Art.
11.20.) and
consequently
mandating At-Large
Staff to organize
such a subsequent
Online voting.<br>
<br>
I hope that my
answers and
deliberations may be
helpful.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Wolf<br>
<br>
<br>
>2015-07-23 13:12
GMT+03:00 Oksana
Prykhodko <<a href="mailto:sana.pryhod@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple"></span></a><a href="mailto:sana.pryhod@gmail.com" target="_blank">sana.pryhod@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>>
Communication in
this way can force
me to stop
discussion here, but
can't<br>
>> force me to
stop to act.<br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Jul
22, 2015 at 9:49 PM,
Wolf Ludwig <<a href="mailto:wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple"></span></a><a href="mailto:wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net" target="_blank">wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> If
there wouldn't be
"any legal basis"
like our Bylaws
(Chair – see Art.<br>
>>> 9.5 and
9.6 resp.
Secretariat – see
Art 11.5.9), you
couldn't have been<br>
>>> elected
for the Secretariat
end of May 2011 at
the Belgrad GA ;-)
The very<br>
>>> fact
that you were not
reelected in June
2013 (run-off vote
-- see Art.<br>
>>> 11.20)
doesn't support your
sole opinion that
there is "no legal
basis".<br>
>>><br>
>>> And
BTW, you had your
chance to complain
against me with the
Ombudsman<br>
>>> and
your complaint was
not approved by him.
Repeating false
assumptions is<br>
>>> not
helpful at all.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Best,<br>
>>> Wolf<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Oksana
Prykhodko wrote Wed,
22 Jul 2015 20:08:<br>
>>>
>Dear Wolf,<br>
>>> ><br>
>>>
>Thank you very
much for your
"explanations". May
be we need something<br>
>>> more?<br>
>>> >Any
legal basis, for
example?<br>
>>> ><br>
>>>
>Best regards,<br>
>>>
>Oksana<br>
>>> >On
Jul 22, 2015 4:44
PM, "Wolf Ludwig"
<<a href="mailto:wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple"></span></a><a href="mailto:wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net" target="_blank">wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>>
>> Hello,<br>
>>>
>><br>
>>>
>> as clearly
explained at
yesterday's call,
the EURALO
leadership or<br>
>>>
>> officers
comprise two
positions:<br>
>>>
>><br>
>>>
>> a) the
Chair and b) the
Secretariat (both
two years terms)
which need<br>
>>> to<br>
>>>
>> be
re-elected at the
Dublin GA.<br>
>>>
>><br>
>>>
>> The call
for nominations will
we opened shortly by
At-Large Staff.<br>
>>>
>><br>
>>>
>> Best,<br>
>>>
>> Wolf<br>
>>>
>><br>
>>>
>><br>
>>>
>> Oksana
Prykhodko wrote Wed,
22 Jul 2015 11:20:<br>
>>>
>> >Dear
all,<br>
>>>
>> ><br>
>>>
>>
>Following our
yesterday
discussion, I would
like to ask to
clarify,<br>
>>> for<br>
>>>
>> >which
positions we have to
nominate?<br>
>>>
>> ><br>
>>>
>> >I am
sure that there is
no doubt with
nomination of
Olivier for EURALO<br>
>>>
>> >Chair.<br>
>>>
>> ><br>
>>>
>> >What is
the second position?<br>
>>>
>> ><br>
>>>
>> >Best
regards,<br>
>>>
>> >Oksana<br>
>>>
>> ><br>
>>>
>><br>
>>>
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Secretariat<br>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>><br>
>>>
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ICANN's Regional
At-Large
Organisation<br>
>>>
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