<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi<div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 21, 2015, at 11:03 PM, Wolf Ludwig <<a href="mailto:wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net" class="">wolf.ludwig@comunica-ch.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">Hi Bill and all,<br class=""><br class="">thanks for this feedback. We approved tonight that the Public Interest should be the next key topic for the content part of our next GA in Dublin.<br class=""><br class="">All our internal and side talks have shown the pressing importance of the issue -- or pointed to the existing gaps: In official statements, rhetoric or soap-box oratory ICANN is regularly referring to the PI as an "important goal or reference" while ICANN's decision making raises strong doubts in various cases (let's call it an opportunist approach and reality ;-). And there is some clear evidence that is is an important guideline for the GAC and ALAC (in best cases at least) while other constituencies sometimes openly contest its relevance or flimsy argue like "there is no clear definition, source, relevance or evidence or whatever ..." Example: Having followed exchanges on the CCWG-A list over the last months, I was consternated by the arbitrariness and flatness of contesters of the Public Interest. Sure, it may be a "Western" or "Occidental" concept by its origins and evolvment but the UDHR and the like is questioned, challenged or contested with comparable flaw arguments ... Therefor it seems that we start the right debate at the right moment.<br class=""></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>And some very limiting conceptions of the G/PI have been advanced by some of our business colleagues in the accountability discussions, and Fadi has Nora’s team and some board members focusing on this as its in the strategic plan, etc etc etc. I suspect that in the 4th quarter the issue will get a lot more play, so it will be good for Euralo to discuss it in Dublin.</div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><br class="">You support is welcome!</div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>I’d be happy to help organize something.</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""> Thanks,<br class="">Wolf<br class=""><br class="">P. S. We are aware that the timing of our calls ("dinner time") is not optimal at all for certain people. But please keep in mind that the majority of our members (volunteers) cannot do such calls during their prof. working hours = day time. And later evening hours proofed to be exclusive as well …</div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Understood. But I’d had four conference calls and 13 hours at the computer already so it was just not possible. Everyone’s schedules different.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Cheers</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Bill<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><br class=""><br class="">William Drake wrote Tue, 21 Jul 2015 19:21:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Hello<br class=""><br class="">Unfortunately it turns out that I will be unable to add this meeting to today's diet of conference calls. However, if this is relevant, I would like to voice my strong support for the suggestion on the agenda of focusing the meeting thematically on the global public interest. This is an increasingly pressing issue in many contexts and it would be good to have a European-oriented discussion of the concept and its meaning in the ICANN context.<br class=""><br class="">Relatedly, I might point out this session I’ve organized for the IGF meeting, stimulated in no small part by various intra-ICANN discussions:<br class=""><br class=""><a href="http://intgovforum.org/cms/wks2015/index.php/proposal/view_public/52" class="">http://intgovforum.org/cms/wks2015/index.php/proposal/view_public/52</a> <<a href="http://intgovforum.org/cms/wks2015/index.php/proposal/view_public/52" class="">http://intgovforum.org/cms/wks2015/index.php/proposal/view_public/52</a>> <br class=""><br class="">Best<br class=""><br class="">Bill<br class=""><br class="">PS: I really wish Euralo’s calls were not all at dinner time.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Jul 20, 2015, at 4:23 PM, ICANN At-Large Staff <<a href="mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org" class="">staff@atlarge.icann.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at <a href="mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org" class="">staff@atlarge.icann.org</a> <<a href="mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org" class="">mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org</a>> with your preferred number.<br class="">Please remember that it is now possible to connect your audio via the AC room, without using your telephone. You need a stable internet connection. If you would like a reminder of how to connect please let staff know.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Dear All,<br class=""><br class="">Please note that the EURALO July monthly call has been cancelled due to the summer vacation in Europe. However we will be holding a SINGLE ISSUE: Dublin General Assembly Preparation call on Tuesday 21 July 2015 at 1800 UTC.<br class=""><br class="">The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at<br class=""><a href="https://community.icann.org/x/haw0Aw" class="">https://community.icann.org/x/haw0Aw</a> <<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/haw0Aw" class="">https://community.icann.org/x/haw0Aw</a>><br class=""><br class="">Conference bridge: 1638<br class="">Toll free numbers: <a href="http://adigo.com/icann/" class="">http://adigo.com/icann/</a> <<a href="http://adigo.com/icann/" class="">http://adigo.com/icann/</a>><br class=""><br class="">Adobe Connect: <a href="http://icann.adobeconnect.com/euralo" class="">http://icann.adobeconnect.com/euralo</a> <<a href="http://icann.adobeconnect.com/euralo" class="">http://icann.adobeconnect.com/euralo</a>><br class=""><br class="">If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at:<br class=""><a href="mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org" class="">staff@atlarge.icann.org</a> <<a href="mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org" class="">mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org</a>%3cmailto:staff@<a href="http://atlarge.icann.org" class="">atlarge.icann.org</a>><br class=""><br class="">Thank you.<br class="">Regards,<br class=""><br class="">Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine and Terri Agnew<br class="">ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC<br class="">E-mail: <a href="mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org" class="">staff@atlarge.icann.org</a> <<a href="mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org" class="">mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org</a>><br class="">Facebook: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/icann.atlarge" class="">www.facebook.com/icann.atlarge</a> <<a href="https://www.facebook.com/icann.atlarge" class="">https://www.facebook.com/icann.atlarge</a>><br class="">Twitter: @ICANN_AtLarge <<a href="https://twitter.com/ICANN_AtLarge" class="">https://twitter.com/ICANN_AtLarge</a>> <br class=""><br class="">One World, One Internet<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">EURO-Discuss mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" class="">EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a> <<a href="mailto:EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" class="">mailto:EURO-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>><br class=""><a href="https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss" class="">https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss</a> <<a href="https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss" class="">https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/euro-discuss</a>><br class=""><br class="">Homepage for the region: <a href="http://www.euralo.org" class="">http://www.euralo.org</a> <<a href="http://www.euralo.org/" class="">http://www.euralo.org/</a>><br class=""></blockquote>*********************************************************<br class="">William J. Drake<br class="">International Fellow & Lecturer<br class=""> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ<br class=""> University of Zurich, Switzerland<br class="">Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, <br class=""> ICANN, <a href="http://www.ncuc.org" class="">www.ncuc.org</a><br class=""><a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" class="">william.drake@uzh.ch</a> (direct), <a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" class="">wjdrake@gmail.com</a> (lists),<br class=""> <a href="http://www.williamdrake.org" class="">www.williamdrake.org</a><br class="">Internet Governance: The NETmundial Roadmap <a href="http://goo.gl/sRR01q" class="">http://goo.gl/sRR01q</a><br class="">*********************************************************<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">EuroDIG Secretariat<br class=""><a href="http://www.eurodig.org/" class="">http://www.eurodig.org/</a><br class="">mobile +41 79 204 83 87<br class="">Skype: Wolf-Ludwig<br class=""><br class="">EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation<br class="">http://euralo.org<br class=""><br class="">Profile on LinkedIn<br class="">http://ch.linkedin.com/in/wolfludwig<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div apple-content-edited="true" class="">
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