[EURO-Discuss] R: Reflections on selection: 1. Emotional

Tue Apr 15 15:24:40 UTC 2014

Dear Roberto,

I do not want to discuss persons or decision (Rinalia has all my support
and she knows about it, and she knows, why I voted not for her during first
rounds).

I am talking about transparency and accountability of the process. We had
the discussion  of candidates, but it was done in private messages - so,
persons under discussion did not know what was said about them and could
not answer to the criticism.

Regarding proxy and directed vote I will answer later - I have to find some
evidences.

Best regards,
Oksana

On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Wolf Ludwig <wolf.ludwig ���� comunica-ch.net>wrote:

> Hello,
>
> just a *correction* on point 2 below (appointment of proxy and procedure):
> Theres was only one self-nomination for this proxy vote from Oksana -- and
> no others on the list during the narrow call period. In case there would
> have been more candidates volunteering for this, we needed to do a voting
> on the *preferred candidate* for this proxy vote.
>
> On point 3: EURALO's ALAC members are free in their vote but may consider
> the result of the regional consultation, if they wish. The chair only is
> bound to his directed vote (what BTW is not prescribed in our Bylaws but
> was discussed and decided by EURALO prior to the 2010 selection and
> regional consultation for Seat 15).
>
> On the meaning of a "directed vote" I remember that I have outlined and
> explained this before: It's a vote based on the majority will of EURALO's
> members and not the personal preference of the chair (as part of the
> electorate).
>
> Best, Wolf
>
>
> Oksana Prykhodko wrote Tue, 15 Apr 2014 13:42:
> >Dear Roberto,
> >
> >Once again, I am "unhappy" only at EURALO level, so i am not sure, that it
> >has to be included into your report.
> >
> >But I fully support your proposition to start this discussion today - with
> >creating WG on rewriting EURALO Bylaws (I sent another e-mail with this
> >proposition).
> >
> >Regarding Board Member election:
> >
> >1. The process of discussion was not open. I received a lot of reasons
> >against Sebastien, and I can't understand, why it was not said to him in
> >person (to give him possibility to answer).
> >
> >2. What is the procedure for appointment of proxy? I know that we have at
> >least three volunteers. What was the mechanism of Oksana Prykhodko's
> >selection?
> >
> >3. Are all voters from EURALO (except chair) independent, or they have to
> >vote in line with EURALO decision?
> >
> >4. The last one, but the most important: what does directed voting mean?
> >
> >I have many more questions regarding other issues of EURALO Bylaws
> >uncertainties. I had a chance to discuss this problem with other EURALO
> >members in Singapore. I hope for your support for my suggestion to create
> >WG to rewrite EURALO Bylaws.
> >
> >Best regards,
> >Oksana
> >
> >
> >On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl ���� gih.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Roberto,
> >>
> >> Thank you for your follow-up. There is actually a process by which there
> >> will be a full review of the selection process.  This will include
> >> interviewing members in the bcec and the bmspc as well as candidates
> etc.
> >> Tijani and I were waiting for your return and the process will launch
> >> soon.
> >> Kind regards,
> >>
> >> Olivier
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from Samsung Mobile
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -------- Original message --------
> >> From: Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano ���� hotmail.com>
> >> Date: 15/04/2014 07:57 (GMT+01:00)
> >> To: 'Oksana Prykhodko' <sana.pryhod ���� gmail.com>,'Discussion for At-Large
> >> Europe' <euro-discuss ���� atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> >> Subject: [EURO-Discuss] R: Reflections on selection: 1. Emotional
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear Oksana, and all,
> >> First of all, on behalf of the BCEC, thanks for the congratulations. The
> >> team has been excellent, and made my job easy.
> >> However, the big task has been not to prepare the slate of candidates,
> but
> >> to do the selection, so the burden has been mainly on Tijani and his
> team,
> >> for the preparation of the voting procedures, and to the ALAC voting
> team.
> >> I am not sure I understand the points below, but I sense that there is
> >> something we need to discuss and fix.
> >> Two proposals:
> >> 1. today there's an EURALO teleconference, maybe that's the place to
> >> start the discussion, but I believe that, at least for myself, I need to
> >> have more details on what makes you unhappy
> >> 2. my plan is to finalize the "lessons learned" shopping list before
> >> the next ALAC teleconference (next week), and if there is something I
> need
> >> to add, the BCEC needs to be aware
> >> I think we need to turn the page without leaving any bad feelings
> behind.
> >> Rinalia has the full support of ALAC, as any of the other 4 candidates
> >> would
> >> have had. It is indeed unfortunate that only one could have been
> selected,
> >> but that's the rule of the game that we did know in advance.
> >> Cheers,
> >> Roberto
> >>
> >>
> >> > -----Messaggio originale-----
> >> > Da: euro-discuss-bounces ���� atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:
> euro-discuss-
> >> > bounces ���� atlarge-lists.icann.org] Per conto di Oksana Prykhodko
> >> > Inviato: lunedì 14 aprile 2014 23:20
> >> > A: Discussion for At-Large Europe
> >> > Oggetto: [EURO-Discuss] Reflections on selection: 1. Emotional
> >> >
> >> > Dear all,
> >> >
> >> > I would like to continue here the discussion from ALAC list regarding
> >> election
> >> > of Board Member from At-Large.
> >> >
> >> > I participated in this process as a member of the Board Member
> Selection
> >> > Process Committee (BMSPC) 2014, Chaired by Tijani, and as a voter (as
> a
> >> > proxy for Jean-Jacques, who also was a candidate).
> >> >
> >> > My best congratulations to Roberto and his committee for 5 excellent
> >> > candidates - I wish to see all of them in the Board! I highly
> appreciate
> >> great
> >> > work, which was done by Tijani and his committee on At-Large level.
> >> > The procedure was absolutely clear and understandable.
> >> >
> >> > My best congratulations to Sebastien - you served the whole your term
> >> > without any support from EURALO. You are the hero!!!!!
> >> >
> >> > I am absolutely happy to participate in  this process at At-Large
> level.
> >> >
> >> > I am absolutely unhappy to participate in the same process at EURALO
> >> level.
> >> >
> >> > I am absolutely ready to start any free discussion of this topick.
> >> >
> >> > I am absolutely ready to be blocked just now just here
> >> >
> >> > Best regards,
> >> > Oksana
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