[EURO-Discuss] PROBLEM: VOTE CREDENTIALS: EURALO Secretariat

Wolf Ludwig wolf.ludwig at comunica-ch.net
Fri Jun 28 01:04:52 UTC 2013


Dear Dick,

thanks for your observations and remarks. We have discussed the need for a 2nd voting round and the set-up of the voting tool last Thursday night at our extraordinary Board meeting in Lisbon and afterwards. One of the conclusions was: 

We offered more - incl. NoA or sort of Abstain - in the first round what broad tight results without clear majorities (or where the most votes (11) was countered by 8 + 8 = 16 what indicates that 11 was not a majority vote out of 27, as prescribed in the Bylaws (art. 11.20).

In a 2nd run-off voting round (Stichwahl) you usually reduce options to come up with a clear result on the candidates and not to face a similar dilemma as in the first round. That's why the Bigpulse voting tool was designed like this = to enable a clear voting result.

Some people mentioned/argued already, if they still don't want to make a choice between the two candidates, the only option would be to refrain from casting their vote in the 2nd round -- what is considered by a few TMK and has to be taken into account when At-Large Staff will check the number of total voters who casted their vote compared to those who received an invitation plus credentials for the vote. Perhaps this may be an option for you as well?

But I still hope that we will have a clear voting result by tomorrow night. Thanks for your understanding and

best regards,
Wolf


Dick Kalkman wrote Fri, 28 Jun 2013 02:09
>Dear All,
>
>Before I tried to vote for the EURALO Secretariat I made some observations.
>
>>From my background I always review and test voting systems. Reviewing
>and testing the voting system I now have to suspect a problem with the
>voting procedures and/or system. To explain the problem the following:
>
>The (concept) minutes of the last GA regarding the voting for the
>secretariat contains:
>
>Secret votes: 27 votes in total, proxies included, one missing due to
>delayed arrival at the meeting.
>Ms. Yuliya Morenets: 8 votes
>Ms. Oksana Prykhodko: 11 votes
>None of the above: 8 votes
>
>So voting was possible for Yuliya, Oksana or None.
>
>However the Bigpuls voting system said:
>
>Please select one of the two candidates below, listed in alphabetical
>order, for the position of EURALO Secretariat for the term of from the
>EURALO GA 2013 to the EURALO GA 2015:
>* Yuliya Morenets
>* Oksana Prykhodko
>		
>Select one checkbox
>	
>Yuliya Morenets
>Oksana Prykhodko
>
>So voting is possible for Yuliya, Oksana but NOT for None.
>
>This leads to the conclusion that this election process is inconsistent
>with the last week election at the GA.
>
>To be sure that this option is really really missing (some voting
>systems are no so well documented) I did a test. I didn't select any
>checkbook and hit "Submit vote". And indeed, the system responded:
>
>Error: check your submission
>EURALO Secretariat
>You must select at least one choice in this poll.
>
>My first impression is that one voting option ("none") is missing. At
>least this is confusing and leads to the question why is this
>implemented this way?
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Dick Kalkman
>
>
>
>
>On 27-6-2013 5:00, At-Large Staff wrote:
>> Dear Dick,
>> 
>> Please note that the poll for the position of EURALO Secretariat has now
>> opened. 
>> 
>> *****
>> Question: Please select one of the two candidates below, listed in
>> alphabetical order, for the position of EURALO Secretariat for the term
>> of from the EURALO GA 2013 to the EURALO GA 2015: 
>> 
>>   * Yuliya Morenets 
>>   * Oksana Prykhodko 
>> 
>> *****
>> 
>> Please note that the poll will be open from *_24_**-**June**-2013 23:59
>> UTC* to *_28_**-June-2013 **_23:59_** UTC*.
>> 
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>> Regards,
>> 
>> Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie
>> Peregrine and Julia Charvolen
>> 
>> ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
>> 
>> E-mail: staff at atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org>
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