[EURO-Discuss] Final preparations for Lisbon GA -- nominations

Wolf Ludwig wolf.ludwig at comunica-ch.net
Wed Jun 12 13:44:12 UTC 2013

Hi Bogdan,

first of all, thanks for your support to the current EURALO Officers nomination process prior to Lisbon.

Regarding your notes and comments on TaC, I have seen similar references on other lists recently where most of it is suppositions and not really factual. As you mentioned the CleanIT project and TaC's "involvement" there (...) We had a similar discussion on Swiss lists (Digitale Allmend and others you know) about the "involvement" of the Swiss Pirate party in the CleanIT project what led to some confusion. Actually, it turned out that two members of the PP were invited as *observers" to Brussels meetings of this project what they confirmed. BTW, early 2012 I was invited to such project meetings as well "as a consultant" but I had to refrain for capacity and time reasons. "IF" I would have participated in such meetings, I would have clearly expressed my reservations to such approaches.

And I smell another contradiction here: On the one hand, we are always talking about "multi-stakeholder approach and dialogue", to discuss and exchange with other stakeholder groups like business, government etc. to find some common grounds on IG issues. And once or the other hand, a civil society group is doing so, they may get suspected for "being involved" in suspicious projects and discussions -- what is not really consistent to me (at least).

I share your concerns about clear standings and positioning of civil society (incl. EURALO) on civil liberty issues. But I am not fond of any conspiracy scenarios and suspicions. The work TaC and Yuliya is doing is one facet among plenty of CS engagements in Internet governance -- and I am certain that we all share a common *key concern* to keep the Internet free, open, accessible ...

Therefore let me suggest to keep a sense of proportion and not get carried away.

Best regards,

Bogdan Manolea /ApTI wrote Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:39:
>Hi all,
>We would like to second Vladimir's proposals:
>- Wolf for the Chair, and
>- Oksana for the Secretariat - not necessarily from the point of view of 
>regional balance, but mainly for her work so far and her experience in 
>the IG issues. (and hope she would be able to come to the Lisbon meeting)
>At the same time, after some discussions within our association and with 
>other associations members of EDRi (as you might know ApTI is a member 
>of European Digital Rights - EDRi) we would like to refrain (even 
>indirectly) from supporting the work that Together against Cybercrime 
>(TaC) and Yulia has been involved lately - and I mean here especially 
>participation in:
>- the CleanIT project (A very unclear project that was trying to push 
>for voluntary blocking by ISPs and other crazy measures 
>http://www.cleanitproject.eu/partners-and-participants/) and
>- the Licences for Europe - user-generated content consultations (where 
>it was the only representative of the "user" groups that, in fact, turns 
>out that they supported the music industry suggestions).
>Of course, any NGO is free to do whatever they want, but we, as ApTI, 
>feel that it should be clear that EURALO and its representatives really 
>support Internet users interests in all their activities and especially 
>work for protecting their rights in the digital world.
>Please note that I have never met personally Yulia, so don't take this 
>personally in any way (or as anything of this sort), but we just feel 
>that these principles need to be discussed in the GA in Lisbon before 
>any vote.
>Also, I feel like I need to make this statement here, as, unfortunately, 
>I won't be in the Lisbon GA and Adela, the primary contact for ApTI in 
>EURALO, just changed her job and will not be able to take care of the IG 
>issues in ApTI in the future. FYI, we will have a colleague going to the 
>Lisbon GA, but she is young and inexperienced, so I don't want to put 
>her to explain such a complicated issue as the one above.
>PS: Of course, we would also support Veronica and Olivier for their 
>Best regards
>Bogdan Manolea
>Director Executiv
>Asociatia pentru Tehnologie si Internet - ApTI
>+40 721 205 603
>On 06/07/2013 03:36 PM, Vladimir Kukovsky wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> proposals for the Lisbon elections:
>> a) the Chair: I would like to support for Wolf Ludwig nomination;
>> b) the Secretariat: I would like to nominate for Oksana Prykhodko
>> (the incumbent). Oksana uses each opportunity to share information on
>> ICANN/At-Large/EURALO, to promote the concept of multistakeholderism,
>> to build personal contacts between key actors across the borders.
>> Ukrainian Internet Association focuses its activity on transparency
>> and accountability of all IG processes, and that is why we support
>> efforts of EMP to translate and explain ICANN-related information
>> into Russian/Ukrainian, to work on capacity building, to encourage
>> more active involvement of end users in Internet governance. East
>> Europe is underrepresented in EURALO, that is why it is important to
>> keep our representative in EURALO Board from the point of view of
>> regional balance. So, I would like to nominate for the Secretariat
>> Oksana Prykhodko.
>> Best regards, Vladimir Kukovsky
>> __________________________________________________________ Executive
>> Director of the Ukrainian Internet Association tel. +38 044 278-2925
>> mob. +38 067 502-0988 www.inau.org.ua
>> -----Original Message----- From:
>> euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of
>> Annette Muehlberg Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 7:24 PM To: Discussion
>> for At-Large Europe Cc: staff at atlarge.icann.org; "Egov Annette
>> Mühlberg" Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Final preparations for Lisbon
>> GA -- nominations
>> Dear Wolf,  dear all,
>> sorry for answering that late, but I just realized that the second
>> part of your mail is about nominations for the GA-elections in
>> Lisbon. I would have expected  to see a seperate nomination
>> announcement by staff. But as I understand the nominations have been
>> opened since the 27th of May.
>> For the elections in Lisbon -- see draft agenda (point B 9) -- I
>> would like to nominate for a) the Chair: Wolf Ludwig (the incumbent)
>> and for b) the Secretariat: Yulya Morenets (new - from TaC, France)
>> and c) the Board: the current Board members (if they wish to continue
>> or being partly replaced by new members) -- see:
>> [1]https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/The+current+EURALO+Board
>>  Personally I would like to continue on the Board. I am aware that
>> due to my involvement in the Enquête-Commission of the German
>> Parliament I had not much capacities left for EURALO, but as the work
>> of the Enquête-Commission has been completed last month, I would like
>> to contribute more to EURALO again.
>> All the best
>> Annette
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013 um 22:56 Uhr Von: "Wolf Ludwig"
>> <wolf.ludwig at comunica-ch.net> An:
>> euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org Cc: "At-Large Staff"
>> <staff at atlarge.icann.org> Betreff: [EURO-Discuss] Final preparations
>> for Lisbon GA -- last inputs needed Dear all, we just completed our
>> last monthly call before the upcoming Lisbon GA in June and discussed
>> some last organisational points (among others). Please note: Hotel
>> rooms are booked for all registered participants for 19-20 June or
>> two nights at the Altis hotel (what is the EURALO GA and EuroDIG
>> venue): [2]http://www.altishotels.com/EN/ and
>> [3]https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/EURALO+ALSes+Representatives+t
>> As you may have noticed, I circulated a draft of the Board report
>> 2012-13 FYI today what needs to be approved as a regular part of our
>> GA. We are on the way to finalize our Agenda for Lisbon with three
>> parts: a) a formal one reflecting usual Bylaw requirements (quorum,
>> report and re-/elections of officers) b) key and intro speakers
>> (Sébastien, Nigel and Olivier) and c)  the  *content  part* on org.
>> assessment (strength and weaknesses), definition of EURALO’s key
>> themes and priorities, and how to improve and strengthen our member’s
>> involvement in regular activities. Your suggestions for the agenda
>> parts are welcome! See:
>> [4]https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/2013+EURALO+General+Assembly
>As we need to conduct re-/elections for Officers and functions at the Lisbon
>> GA (see point 6 of the Board report), we need to follow some
>> procedural requirements fixed in our Bylaws. The regional officer
>> selections will be held  at the GA, the proposed schedule, Draft
>> Election Timetable is as follows: 1. Nominations Open: 27 May 2.
>> Nominations Close: 14 June 3. Nomination Acceptance by candidates: On
>> or before 18 June 4. Listing of candidates for the GA: Between 18-19
>> June 5. Voting Results announced: 19 June at the GA and meeting
>> minutes. Last but not least: Please don’t forget to get registered
>> for EuroDIG what you have to do by yourself ASAP (some of you did
>> already) to provide some planning security for the organizers – see:
>> [5]http://www.eurodig.org/eurodig-2012/information/registration
>> Thanks for your support and I am pleased to welcome most of you soon
>> in Lisbon. Kind regards, Wolf EuroDIG Secretariat
>> [6]http://www.eurodig.org/ mobile +41 79 204 83 87 Skype:
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>> https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/The+current+EURALO+Board
>> 2. http://www.altishotels.com/EN/ 3.
>> https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/EURALO+ALSes+Representatives+to+the+2013+GA
>4. https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/2013+EURALO+General+Assembly
>> 5. http://www.eurodig.org/eurodig-2012/information/registration 6.
>> http://www.eurodig.org/ 7. http://euralo.org/ 8.
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