[EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up

Mon May 28 09:33:35 EDT 2007

Hi Desiree
Most people won't be in until late Sat, I think. You could have it Sunday in
parallel with the NARALO and LACRALO meetings... how many from EURALO will
be there?
Jacqueline

-----Original Message-----
From: Desiree Miloshevic [mailto:dmiloshevic at afilias.info] 
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 9:10 AM
To: Discussion for At-Large Europe
Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up

I expect that there would be an informal EURALO meeting in San Juan?

Saturday?

Best regards,

Desiree
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Kleinwächter wrote:
> Tuesday would be fine, but please let me know as soon as possible that I
can inform the panelists.
>  
> Best
>  
> w 
> 
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> Från: Jacqueline A. Morris [mailto:jam at jacquelinemorris.com]
> Skickat: lö 2007-05-26 00:15
> Till: Kleinwächter, Wolfgang; 'Discussion for At-Large Europe'
> Ämne: RE: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up
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> 
> Sunday is the same day as the LACRALO and NARALO meetings, so they won't
be
> able to make it Sunday.
> Check with Nick - the last day he suggested to me was Tuesday afternoon...
> not sure how the schedule is running now - I haven't seen a full draft
yet.
> Jacqueline
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kleinwächter, Wolfgang
> [mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de]
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 5:29 PM
> To: jam at jacquelinemorris.com; Discussion for At-Large Europe
> Subject: SV: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up
> 
> Thanks Jackie
> 
> there is no need to have the two workshops on the same day. I proposed
> Sunday for the gTLD workshop, Robin Wednesday for the FOE workshop. Robin
> wanted to consult this pro9posal with Milton an d others in the NCUC. Lets
> hear what their position is than lates make an joint announcement.
> 
> best
> 
> w
> 
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> Morris
> Skickat: fr 2007-05-25 14:55
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> 
> Hello everyone
> I thought that it would make sense to have a joint NCUC/ALAC session with
> each session having its own timeslot - we had originally planned to have
an
> ALAC afternoon with 2 sessions  - one the gTLD workshop and one the "hot
> issues" workshop. I am OK with having the gTLD workshop moved to a joint
> ALAC/NCUC morning or afternoon with the Freedom of expression session - I
> didn't think that the two parts needed to be linked topically - or are we
> talking about conflating the two into one?
> They are linked in that they are issues that are important to end-users.
The
> event (the morning or afternoon) could be jointly marketed.
> Jacqueline
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roberto Gaetano [mailto:roberto at icann.org]
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 3:31 AM
> To: 'Discussion for At-Large Europe'
> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up
> 
> It would be good to have an outline of both, because the links between
> gegraphical domain names and freedom of speech are not obvious to me.
> This does not mean that we cannot call both workshops under one umbrella,
to
> foster also better communication between ALAC and NCUC, but just that we
> should be careful in forcing links that are not clear in the mind of the
> average attendee.
> 
> Cheers,
> Roberto
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On
>> Behalf Of William Drake
>> Sent: 25 May 2007 07:28
>> To: nick.ashton-hart at icann.org, Discussion for At-Large Europe
>> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up
>>
>> A priori, jointly convening both and exploring each issue set
>> more thoroughly with links drawn between the two sounds right to me.
>>
>> BD
>>
>>
>> On 5/24/07 5:01 PM, "Nick Ashton-Hart"
>> <nick.ashton-hart at icann.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I think it is up to the community. From what I know of these two
>>> events, it would seem to me that these are two important and very
>>> different aspects to consider and it is worthwhile to consider them
>>> separately because each set of issues will then get more time, and
>>> therefore be explored more thoroughly, than if they shared a single
>>> timeslot. Of course, nothing would stop the two
>> constituencies jointly
>>> convening one or the other of these events, which would provide the
>>> 'one voice' benefits you mention.
>>>
>>> Jacqueline, do you have any thoughts?
>>>
>>> On 24/05/07, "Kleinwächter"@smtp01.icann.org
>>> <"Kleinwächter"@smtp01.icann.org> wrote:
>>>> Dear list
>>>>
>>>> Robin Gross from IP Justice, who is also with the
>> Non-Commercial User
>>>> Constituency of the GNSO told me here in geneva during the IGF
>>>> consultations that she is preparing a similar workshop on
>> Freedom of
>>>> Expression in San Juan (probably on Wednesday, June, 27, 2007.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think, should we consider to do the two
>> workshops under
>>>> one unbrella as a joint activitiy of ALAC and NCUC? The
>> two workshops
>>>> are totally independent but complement each other. Each
>> unit would be
>>>> responsible for its own workshop but coulkd benefit from the joint
>>>> advertisement. Thisn could lead to a win-win-situation.
>> And we would
>>>> give the ICANN constituency as a whole a clear signal,
>> that th voice
>>>> of the users/consumers/at large members gets louder.
>>>>
>>>> Any comments?
>>>>
>>>> Wolfgang
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>
>>>> Von: Annette Muehlberg [mailto:annette.muehlberg at web.de]
>>>> Gesendet: Do 24.05.2007 15:37
>>>> An: sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr; Discussion for At-Large Europe
>>>> Cc: Kleinwächter, Wolfgang
>>>> Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sébastien, Wolfgang,
>>>>
>>>> I would like to join you in working on the GEO-TLD
>> meeting, as we are
>>>> working on .berlin what is the current plan?
>>>>
>>>> best
>>>> annette
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sébastien Bachollet schrieb:
>>>>> Sorry Wolfgang to take this old message but it contains 2
>> important points.
>>>>> About the so-call GEO-TLDs I would like to help you in setting up
>>>>> the meeting especially because we started some work on .paris.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not sure I will be available during the forthcoming
>> 8th meeting
>>>>> of the ICANN Studienkreis (October 11-12, 2007 in Warsaw) for an
>>>>> EURALO outreach meeting (Thursday, October 11, 9.00 -
>> 15.00) but I think is a good idea.
>>>>> I start to work on Egeni Europe 2008 for June (just
>> before the Icann
>>>>> meeting in Europe) and I think we need to do also
>> something about Euralo.
>>>>> All the best
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sébastien Bachollet
>>>>> Président
>>>>> sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr
>>>>> www.egeni.org
>>>>> www.isoc.fr
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>>> De : euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>>>> [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] De
>> la part de
>>>>> Wolfgang Kleinwächter Envoyé : samedi 31 mars 2007 13:45 À :
>>>>> Discussion for At-Large Europe; Discussion for At-Large
>> Europe; Nick
>>>>> Ashton-Hart Cc : Europe Discuss; Asia-Pacific Discuss Objet : Re:
>>>>> [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry I forgot the proposals:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. the prepare a workshop for San Juan on Consumer Interests on
>>>>> geographical
>>>>> TLDs: The working title could be "Consumer Confusion vs.
>> Consumer Choice:
>>>>> The User Interests in  GEO-TLDs". As we discussed in
>> Lisbon, there
>>>>> is a growing number of related projects (.berlin, .nyc,
>> .cym, .sco,
>>>>> .london etc) and there are two main arguments in favour
>> and against.
>>>>> In Germany the local government which operates berlin.de
>> argues that
>>>>> .berlin would create consumer confusion while the federal
>> parliament
>>>>> just recently adopted a resolution arguing GEO-TLDs like .munich,
>>>>> .cologne, .saxony, .bavaria or .leipzig would bring more
>> competition
>>>>> and more consumer choice. I expect that the ICANN Board
>> if it has to
>>>>> take decisions on such TLDs  (based on the GNSO Policy
>> paper and the
>>>>> GAC gTLD principles) will need some input form the user
>> perspective
>>>>> and this is the ALAC. I would be ready to start the
>> preparation for such a two hour workshopin San Juan.
>>>>> 2. I propose to use the forthcoming 8th meeting of the ICANN
>>>>> Studienkreis (October 11-12, 2007 in Warsaw) for an
>> EURALO outreach
>>>>> meeting (Thursday, October 11, 9.00 - 15.00) for Central
>> and Eastern
>>>>> Europe. I ask all ALS and other friends of EURALO to send me
>>>>> contcats so that we can do outrech and invite speakers. I
>> will work
>>>>> together also with the Diplo Foundation. Input from ISOC
>> Europe is welcome.
>>>>> Best
>>>>>
>>>>> wolfgang
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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