[EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up

Nick Ashton-Hart nick.ashton-hart at icann.org
Fri May 25 18:19:07 EDT 2007


Sunday doesn't work well schedule-wise; the LAC GA will be going on
all day, and the North American RALO meeting all day Sunday as well.

On 25/05/07, "Kleinwächter"@smtp01.icann.org
<"Kleinwächter"@smtp01.icann.org> wrote:
> Thanks Jackie
>
> there is no need to have the two workshops on the same day. I proposed Sunday for the gTLD workshop, Robin Wednesday for the FOE workshop. Robin wanted to consult this pro9posal with Milton an d others in the NCUC. Lets hear what their position is than lates make an joint announcement.
>
> best
>
> w
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> Från: euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org genom Jacqueline A. Morris
> Skickat: fr 2007-05-25 14:55
> Till: 'Discussion for At-Large Europe'
> Ämne: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up
>
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>
> Hello everyone
> I thought that it would make sense to have a joint NCUC/ALAC session with
> each session having its own timeslot - we had originally planned to have an
> ALAC afternoon with 2 sessions  - one the gTLD workshop and one the "hot
> issues" workshop. I am OK with having the gTLD workshop moved to a joint
> ALAC/NCUC morning or afternoon with the Freedom of expression session - I
> didn't think that the two parts needed to be linked topically - or are we
> talking about conflating the two into one?
> They are linked in that they are issues that are important to end-users. The
> event (the morning or afternoon) could be jointly marketed.
> Jacqueline
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roberto Gaetano [mailto:roberto at icann.org]
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 3:31 AM
> To: 'Discussion for At-Large Europe'
> Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up
>
> It would be good to have an outline of both, because the links between
> gegraphical domain names and freedom of speech are not obvious to me.
> This does not mean that we cannot call both workshops under one umbrella, to
> foster also better communication between ALAC and NCUC, but just that we
> should be careful in forcing links that are not clear in the mind of the
> average attendee.
>
> Cheers,
> Roberto
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On
> > Behalf Of William Drake
> > Sent: 25 May 2007 07:28
> > To: nick.ashton-hart at icann.org, Discussion for At-Large Europe
> > Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up
> >
> > A priori, jointly convening both and exploring each issue set
> > more thoroughly with links drawn between the two sounds right to me.
> >
> > BD
> >
> >
> > On 5/24/07 5:01 PM, "Nick Ashton-Hart"
> > <nick.ashton-hart at icann.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I think it is up to the community. From what I know of these two
> > > events, it would seem to me that these are two important and very
> > > different aspects to consider and it is worthwhile to consider them
> > > separately because each set of issues will then get more time, and
> > > therefore be explored more thoroughly, than if they shared a single
> > > timeslot. Of course, nothing would stop the two
> > constituencies jointly
> > > convening one or the other of these events, which would provide the
> > > 'one voice' benefits you mention.
> > >
> > > Jacqueline, do you have any thoughts?
> > >
> > > On 24/05/07, "Kleinwächter"@smtp01.icann.org
> > > <"Kleinwächter"@smtp01.icann.org> wrote:
> > >> Dear list
> > >>
> > >> Robin Gross from IP Justice, who is also with the
> > Non-Commercial User
> > >> Constituency of the GNSO told me here in geneva during the IGF
> > >> consultations that she is preparing a similar workshop on
> > Freedom of
> > >> Expression in San Juan (probably on Wednesday, June, 27, 2007.
> > >>
> > >> What do you think, should we consider to do the two
> > workshops under
> > >> one unbrella as a joint activitiy of ALAC and NCUC? The
> > two workshops
> > >> are totally independent but complement each other. Each
> > unit would be
> > >> responsible for its own workshop but coulkd benefit from the joint
> > >> advertisement. Thisn could lead to a win-win-situation.
> > And we would
> > >> give the ICANN constituency as a whole a clear signal,
> > that th voice
> > >> of the users/consumers/at large members gets louder.
> > >>
> > >> Any comments?
> > >>
> > >> Wolfgang
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________
> > >>
> > >> Von: Annette Muehlberg [mailto:annette.muehlberg at web.de]
> > >> Gesendet: Do 24.05.2007 15:37
> > >> An: sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr; Discussion for At-Large Europe
> > >> Cc: Kleinwächter, Wolfgang
> > >> Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Sébastien, Wolfgang,
> > >>
> > >> I would like to join you in working on the GEO-TLD
> > meeting, as we are
> > >> working on .berlin what is the current plan?
> > >>
> > >> best
> > >> annette
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Sébastien Bachollet schrieb:
> > >>> Sorry Wolfgang to take this old message but it contains 2
> > important points.
> > >>> About the so-call GEO-TLDs I would like to help you in setting up
> > >>> the meeting especially because we started some work on .paris.
> > >>>
> > >>> I am not sure I will be available during the forthcoming
> > 8th meeting
> > >>> of the ICANN Studienkreis (October 11-12, 2007 in Warsaw) for an
> > >>> EURALO outreach meeting (Thursday, October 11, 9.00 -
> > 15.00) but I think is a good idea.
> > >>>
> > >>> I start to work on Egeni Europe 2008 for June (just
> > before the Icann
> > >>> meeting in Europe) and I think we need to do also
> > something about Euralo.
> > >>>
> > >>> All the best
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Sébastien Bachollet
> > >>> Président
> > >>> sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr
> > >>> www.egeni.org
> > >>> www.isoc.fr
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Message d'origine-----
> > >>> De : euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > >>> [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] De
> > la part de
> > >>> Wolfgang Kleinwächter Envoyé : samedi 31 mars 2007 13:45 À :
> > >>> Discussion for At-Large Europe; Discussion for At-Large
> > Europe; Nick
> > >>> Ashton-Hart Cc : Europe Discuss; Asia-Pacific Discuss Objet : Re:
> > >>> [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up
> > >>>
> > >>> Sorry I forgot the proposals:
> > >>>
> > >>> 1. the prepare a workshop for San Juan on Consumer Interests on
> > >>> geographical
> > >>> TLDs: The working title could be "Consumer Confusion vs.
> > Consumer Choice:
> > >>> The User Interests in  GEO-TLDs". As we discussed in
> > Lisbon, there
> > >>> is a growing number of related projects (.berlin, .nyc,
> > .cym, .sco,
> > >>> .london etc) and there are two main arguments in favour
> > and against.
> > >>> In Germany the local government which operates berlin.de
> > argues that
> > >>> .berlin would create consumer confusion while the federal
> > parliament
> > >>> just recently adopted a resolution arguing GEO-TLDs like .munich,
> > >>> .cologne, .saxony, .bavaria or .leipzig would bring more
> > competition
> > >>> and more consumer choice. I expect that the ICANN Board
> > if it has to
> > >>> take decisions on such TLDs  (based on the GNSO Policy
> > paper and the
> > >>> GAC gTLD principles) will need some input form the user
> > perspective
> > >>> and this is the ALAC. I would be ready to start the
> > preparation for such a two hour workshopin San Juan.
> > >>>
> > >>> 2. I propose to use the forthcoming 8th meeting of the ICANN
> > >>> Studienkreis (October 11-12, 2007 in Warsaw) for an
> > EURALO outreach
> > >>> meeting (Thursday, October 11, 9.00 - 15.00) for Central
> > and Eastern
> > >>> Europe. I ask all ALS and other friends of EURALO to send me
> > >>> contcats so that we can do outrech and invite speakers. I
> > will work
> > >>> together also with the Diplo Foundation. Input from ISOC
> > Europe is welcome.
> > >>>
> > >>> Best
> > >>>
> > >>> wolfgang
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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