[EURO-Discuss] Voting procedure for ALAC seats

[Nick Ashton-Hart]

May I suggest to everyone that it is usual, during voting, not to
either explain votes, state support for candidatures or choices, or
the opposite.

After the voting ends is the usual point at which explanations of a
vote, if there are any, are to be expected.

Nick

On 18/05/07, Christoph Bruch <bruch at zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
> Hi Nick,
> Just for the record: I did not propose to bend or change the agreed voting
> procedure.
> I suggested to find a compromise and to then vote accordingly.
> Christoph
>
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> [mailto:euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] Im Auftrag von Nick
> Ashton-Hart
> Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Mai 2007 14:32
> An: Dr. Christoph Bruch
> Cc: Discussion for At-Large Europe
> Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Voting procedure for ALAC seats
>
> Christophe:
>
> Whilst I appreciate the spirit of compromise behind this proposal, may
> I remind everyone that this would be changing the decision reached in
> Lisbon on how to proceed - and at the last minute before the vote
> called for as agreed at that meeting.
>
> Again, this proposal would be a reconsideration of the decision of
> Lisbon. I would suggest, like on another proposal earlier to
> reconsider Lisbon outcomes, that the community should only entertain
> reconsidering something if there is the obvious support for doing so.
> That would, if we use the international standard for reconsideration
> of decisions, mean that two-thirds of the ALSes would have to agree to
> reconsider.
>
> If we continue down the path we are on, may I stress that you are
> simply deferring any discussion on real policy far into the future,
> you are endangering the ability of the ALAC members you (eventually)
> choose being able to attend and represent you in Lisbon, etc. I cannot
> imagine that any of you really wish to spend months more discussing
> procedure, having just spent years doing so?
>
> May I also further point out that holding a vote on the candidates is
> clearly the most democratically-recognised method of choosing your
> representatives. Let the voters decide!
>
> On 11/05/07, Dr. Christoph Bruch <bruch at humanistische-union.de> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > we are about to take decisions which will have a strong influence not only
> > on the way internet user from Europe are represented within ALAC but also
> in
> > what atmosphere we will continue our cooperation.
> >
> > I got the impression we are dealing with a constituency more or less split
> > in half on whom to elect for the 2 ALAC seats: one group favouring
> > Patrick/Sebastian the other group favouring Veronica
> >
> > Therefore I suggest that we agree on sending Veronica and either Patrick
> or
> > Sebastian.
> >
> > That would leave us with two decisions:
> > - Patrick or Sebastian
> > - Who Veronica or Patrick/Sebastian should get the 2-year term.
> >
> > If we can reach the agreement and decide the two remaining questions, we
> > would either skip the vote or vote in a way to reach the desired result.
> >
> > This way the rules would not be bent.
> >
> > Maybe Patrick and Sebastian could negotiate amongst themselves who would
> > withdraw his candidacy if we reach the agreement described above.
> >
> > Christoph
> >
> >
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