[EURO-Discuss] [EURO-ALS] Voting Porcedure

[Jacqueline A. Morris]

Hi Werner
You can also refuse to rank more than one candidate. 

But I would like to suggest that given that EURALO in the beginning seemed
to be a very organized and active RALO-to-be, in the 6 weeks since Lisbon,
the group has descended into what appears to be circular and non-productive
discussion. A vote is a good way to end the discussion as positions seem to
have solidified, and no one is really going to change their mind much. 

But now there's the discussion about the voting process. From my
recollection, this was already debated for a very long time at the EURALO
meetings in Lisbon, and a decision was made. 

Are the people objecting to the process now people who were NOT at the
Lisbon meeting, either in person or via telephone, and who did NOT have an
opportunity to read the minutes and documents produced from those meetings
in the 6 weeks since then? Because  otherwise, I would suggest that everyone
has had sufficient time to acquaint themselves with the process as agreed by
the representatives in Lisbon, and the candidates, and you should go ahead
and vote for the Board, so that the RALO can be properly constituted. 

Once that is done, other questions of the process to be followed for voting
in the future etc can be dealt with by the EURALO and its Board and
membership. The decisions made by the group in Lisbon can be rescinded, by a
process to be determined by the EURALO, and new processes put into place.
But until you vote and finally form the EURALO, you are discussing something
that does not yet properly exist - or can it exist without Board and other
corporate positions?

However if you delay, you are running the risk that the EURALO
representatives will not be chosen in time to represent your region at the
San Juan meeting, at which ALAC has some important decisions to make, and we
need you to be a part.

Jacqueline


-----Original Message-----
From: "W.Hülsmann (DVD e.V.)" [mailto:huelsmann at datenschutzverein.de] 
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 12:39 PM
To: nick.ashton-hart at icann.org
Cc: euro-als at atlarge-lists.icann.org; Discussion for At-Large Europe
Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] [EURO-ALS] Voting Porcedure

Hello Nick,

there is a difference if all voters have two possible votes or if the 
voters have to rank all three candidates. If I have two possible votes, 
I can also vote only for one candidate and let my secend vote unused.

Kind Regards,

Werner

Nick Ashton-Hart schrieb:
> Verner, and all:
>
> Could we please, instead of trying to find things to object to, try
> and find things to agree on.
>
> To repeat: there is no difference in the outcome whether one ranks
> three candidates, or whether you dispose of two individual votes for a
> candidate of three.
>
> HOWEVER: insisting on changing everything because one or two
> individuals want to change what was agreed by a much larger group of
> ALSes in Lisbon is basically the same as suggesting that any one ALS
> can veto any decision reached by a much larger group of ALSes.
>
> This would result in nothing ever being achieved.
>
> On 11/05/07, W.Hülsmann (DVD e.V.) <huelsmann at datenschutzverein.de> 
> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> my first question:  "noon UTC" is 1 pm GMT?
>>
>> For the ALAC-Seats the rankingsystems makes for me no sense and it seems
>> to be not democratical for such a few seats to elecect. Therefor we
>> should use for the election of the ALAC-Seats tweo possible Votes for
>> each voter.
>>
>> Greatings,
>>
>> Werner
>>
>> Nick Ashton-Hart schrieb:


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