[EURO-Discuss] [EURO-ALS] No voting on board seats

[Nick Ashton-Hart]

See below

On 11/05/07, Annette Muehlberg <Annette.Muehlberg at web.de> wrote:
> All,
> the link has not been updated:
>

It has now - you have to understand that I do keep these things up but
if there are a few hours' delay in doing so I would hope to have a bit
of forbearance...

> Strong objections have been raised to the proposal of having only 7 board seats.
>

This has been reflected.

> The alternative proposal was to just take all nominees and let them form the board (10 in case Sebastian and Veronica are going to be ALAC members, 9 in case Patrick and Veronika are going to be ALAC members and 9 in case Sebastian and Patrick are going to be ALAC members) plus the non-voting ALAC members.

This is an alternative proposal. What I would suggest is that an
additional ballot item be added. The decision would then be based upon
the following selections:

5,7,9, all candidates

>
> We just state that for this period, depending on the outcome of the ALAC selection the board will either have 9 or 10 voting members.
>

That is a proposal of some ALSes but it is not a proposal of all
ALSes. What I have provided above would incorporate your proposal and
also that of others.

> Right after the selection/election of the ALAC members we could celebrate them and the Board too. No further election, hassle, email correspondence on this issue needed.
>

Again, avoiding elections isn't really democratic - rather the opposite.

I hope that all can find their way to accept the above proposal, which
incorporates your proposal, but also everyone elses.

> The current text on the website (link below) assumes, there is a ballot, it assumes certain number of seats... this has to be updated.

Again, we cannot simply erase the proposals of others. Everyone has a
voice here, and everyone's proposals need to be respected.

>
> This whole procedure is not transparent enough. The following can help: Any text on the website should be posted via email too.

Every update to that page has been posted by email, including the
immediately-previous posting.

>
> Best
> annette
>
> Quote from website
> "The actual ballot will work as follows:
> Each voter will rank, in order of preference, ALL the board nominees.
> The voting system will then produce a list, which incorporates the preferences expressed.
> The board members who will be elected are the top 'N' listed, from the top of the list on down. The Number 'N' shall be either:
> In the case that no objection is raised to the call's recommendation of seven (7) members: 7
> In the case that an objection is raised, then the number shall be that number from the selection above (5,7,9) which receives the most votes. "
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: "W.Hülsmann (DVD e.V.)" <huelsmann at datenschutzverein.de>
> > Gesendet: 11.05.07 11:37:39
> > An:   "euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org >> Discussion for At-Large Europe" <euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> > Betreff: [EURO-ALS] Voting Porcedure
> > Priorität: Hoch
>
>
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > on https://st.icann.org/euralo/index.cgi?euralo_elections_2007 I read:
> >
> > "VOTERS: The designated voters (1 per ALS) of ALSes who have signed the
> > Memorandum of Understanding with ICANN either in-person at the Lisbon
> > ICANN meeting or digitally via electronic mail - at any time before the
> > beginning of the voting"
> >
> > There must be a mistake: First of all we have to decide, if this "strong
> > recommendation" will be accepted.
> >
> > Next: If there are two seats we have to vote for ALAC, then every voter
> > should have two possible votes. The two candidates with the most votes
> > will be elected. This is the democratical way of election. There ist no
> > need for such a ranking.
> >
> > After the election of the two members for the ALAC seats we have two
> > decide, how many seats shall the EURALO board have. The election of the
> > EURALO boad members can't start before we know how many board members
> > are to elect.
> >
> > Kind Regarts,
> >
> > Werner Hülsmann
> >
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