[EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up

Sat Mar 31 13:49:50 EDT 2007

To be clear: I did not suggest to change MoU or Bylaws. What I said was that the timetable is too narrow and that we need a working group to discuss the open issues. Vittorios last timeline sounds much better for me but April 20 is too close. I proposed May 15 for end of nominations. My compromise proposal is May 1 for end of nominations (with a certain flexoibility to extend thuis if proposals arfrive before the final discussion and voting. This gives us some more time for outreach and to invite nominations both from the existing ALS as well as from individuals. 

BTW, Werners concerns should be taken seriously. Nobody commented on my point with regard to trust and confidence building among ALS. It is not enough to post something elsewere and then to declare that an ALS is either unprofessional or does not understand how the process is working out. This is a form of arrogance we do not need. ALM should stand for principle of openess, transparency and inclusivness. If we win confiednece and loos thre weeks wen can celebrate this as a victory.    

Wolfgang

Here is again the list of certified ALS and the ALS weith not yet confirmed applications. We should send a well structured informaiton to all so that we sdo not give the expression of exclsuion. Nick and others have reconfirmed several times that nobody wants to exclude anybody. But believe me with my long experiences in communication thery and practice. Some peopole feel excluded if they do not get a personal inivation. And with such a small group of ALS it should not be too time consuming to have this direct dialogue in such a crucial question like the final steps in the formation of and the first elections. 

Europe

	(90) KEPKA-Consumers' Protection Centre <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/europe/applications/kepka-02feb07.pdf>  (2 February 2007)
	Status: Step III -- ALAC conducting due diligence

	(89) Slovenian Consumers Association (ZPS) <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/europe/applications/zps-25jan07.pdf>  (25 January 2007)
	Status: Step III -- ALAC conducting due diligence

	(78) ISOC France chapitre français de l'Internet Society <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/europe/applications/isoc-france-07nov06.htm>  (7 November 2006)
	Status: Step VII -- Certified as At-Large Structure 

	(73) Comunica-ch - the Swiss Platform on the Information Society <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/europe/applications/comunica-ch-16sep06.htm>  (16 September 2006)
	Status: Step IV -- ALAC Reviewing Application

	(58) Medienstadt Leipzig <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/europe/applications/medienstadt-18may06.htm>  (18 May 2006)
	Status: Step VII -- Certified as At-Large Structure

	(52) TERRE DES FEMMES e.V. <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/europe/applications/frauenrechte-15feb06.htm>  (15 February 2006)
	Status: Step VII -- Certified as At-Large Structure 

	(51) FIfF (Forum InformatikerInnen für Frieden und gesellschaftliche Verantwortung) <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/europe/applications/FIfF-15feb06.htm>  (15 February 2006)
	Status: Step VII -- Certified as At-Large Structure 

	(50) Committee for a Democratic United Nations (Komitee für eine Demokratische UNO) <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/europe/applications/uno-komitee-15feb06.htm>  (15 February 2006)
	Status: Step VII -- Certified as At-Large Structure 

	(48) IIAV (Internationaal Informatie Centrum en Archief voor de Vrouwenbeweging) <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/europe/applications/IIAV-14feb06.htm>  (14 February 2006)
	Status: Step VII -- Not certified as At-Large Structure 

	(47) Deutsche Vereinigung für Datenschutz (DVD) e.V. <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/europe/applications/DVD-13feb06.htm>  (13 February 2006)
	Status: Step VII -- Certified as At-Large Structure 

	(46) FoeBuD e.V. <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/europe/applications/FoeBuD-13feb06.htm>  (13 February 2006)
	Status: Step VII -- Certified as At-Large Structure 

	(45) Humanistische Union e.V. (The Humanist Union) <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/europe/applications/HumanistUnion-13feb06.htm>  (13 February 2006)
	Status: Step VII -- Certified as At-Large Structure 

	(44) netzwerk neue medien (nnm) <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/europe/applications/nnm-10feb06.htm>  (10 February 2006)
	Status: Step VII -- Certified as At-Large Structure 

	(43) Ynternet.org Institute <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/europe/applications/Ynternet-08feb06.htm>  (8 February 2006)
	Status: Step III -- Due Dilligence Review 

	(40) TldWorld.info <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/europe/applications/TldWorld-04jan06.htm>  (4 January 2006)
	Status: Step VII -- Not certified as At-Large Structure 

	(25) Internet Society Nederland (ISOC.nl) <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/europe/applications/isoc-nederland-03jan05.htm>  (3 January 2005)
	Status: Step VII -- Certified as At-Large Structure 

	(23) Internet Society Belgium <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/europe/applications/isoc-belgium-21sep04.htm>  (21 September 2004)
	Status: Step VII -- Certified as At-Large Structure 

	(14) Internet Society - Catalan Chapter <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/europe/applications/isoc-cat-19jan04.htm>  (19 January 2004)
	Status: Step VII -- Certified as At-Large Structure 

	(10) Internet Society - Finland <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/europe/applications/isoc-finland-22nov03.htm>  (22 November 2003)
	Status: Step VII -- Certified as At-Large Structure

	(8) Internet Society - Bulgaria <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/europe/applications/isoc-bulgaria-30oct03.htm>  (30 October 2003)
	Status: Step VII -- Certified as At-Large Structure

	(6) Internet Society (ISOC) Luxembourg A.S.B.L. <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/europe/applications/isocluxem-27oct03.htm>  (27 October 2003)
	Status: Step VII -- Certified as At-Large Structure

	(5) Förderverein Informationstechnik und Gesellschaft (FITUG) e.V <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/europe/applications/fitug-20oct03.htm>  (20 October 2003)
	Status: Step VII -- Certified as At-Large Structure

	(1) Societa' Internet (ISOC Italy) <https://server1.medienkomm.uni-halle.de/europe/applications/societa-internet-4sep03.htm>  (4 September 2003)
	Status: Step VII -- Certified as At-Large Structure

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Von: euro-discuss-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org im Auftrag von Vittorio Bertola
Gesendet: Sa 31.03.2007 19:21
An: Annette Muehlberg
Cc: Discussion for At-Large Europe
Betreff: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Lisbon Follow Up

Annette Muehlberg ha scritto:
> I very much hope that there is not a serious discussion on deliberately
> excluding accredited ALSes which happened to have no chance to attend
> the Lisbon Meeting. This is certainly not something I would have given
> my signature for.

No one wants to exclude anyone. But you also have to understand the
feelings among people who spared one week of their life to come to
Lisbon, went through three days of hard discussions, with some very
heated moments, went to a great distance to reach compromise and
consensus, and now see people asking to change again what had been
agreed. Anyway, I think that there is ample opportunity for making
everyone happy!

This said; the MoU and Bylaws have been agreed and signed both by Paul
Twomey and by a number of ALSes, there is no way that they can be
changed again. But if you think you need more time for the phases of the
election process that was agreed, I am personally fine with allowing for
some more time to let Easter pass - for example, 1-22 April for
nominations, 23-29 April for discussion, 30 Apr-6 May for consensus
building, and 7-11 May for voting.

Would that be ok? By the way, the later we go, the lesser are the
chances that we can have a GA before the San Juan ICANN meeting.
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