[EURO-Discuss] not so fast (Re: SIGNERS FOR TOMORROW - URGENT EMAIL)

[Thomas Roessler]

On 2007-03-28 14:18:00 +0100, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote:

> Definitely - I'm not ignoring you Thomas, I'm just under the gun
> to finish the staging order for the ceremony tomorrow rather
> urgently as it is quite complex and involves many people as you
> can imagine...

Just in case you didn't notice -- the questions I'm asking are about
the substance of what is apparently going to be signed, and I think
it would be appropriate to deal with these well before the signing
ceremony.

-- 
Thomas Roessler   <roessler at does-not-exist.org>






> On 28/03/07, Thomas Roessler <roessler at does-not-exist.org> wrote:
> >Hi Nick,
> >
> >how about an answer to the questions in this message?
> >
> >| From: Thomas Roessler <roessler at does-not-exist.org>
> >| To: nick.ashton-hart at icann.org,
> >|        Discussion for At-Large Europe <euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> >| Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 00:05:55 +0200
> >| Subject: Re: [EURO-Discuss] Signing the MoUs
> >
> >On another matter, I notice the following in your proposed
> >electronic signing statement:
> >
> >| I hereby consent for [INSERT ORGANISATION FULL NAME] to be bound by
> >| the terms of the Memorandum of Understanding between ICANN and the
> >| Signing Organisations in the European Region as if I were personally
> >| signing the document.
> >
> >How does this language (which clearly suggests some kind of binding
> >effect) mix with this statement of yours to the na-discuss list,
> >made last Friday?
> >
> >| From:  "Nick Ashton-Hart" <nick.ashton-hart at icann.org>
> >| Subj:  Re: [NA-Discuss] Suggestion: Name the public as intended beneficiary
> >|   of RALO MOUs
> >| Date:  Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:33 am
> >| Size:  2K
> >| To:  "Wendy Seltzer" <wendy at seltzer.com>
> >| cc:  "Michael Maranda" <mmaranda at afcn.org>, na-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >|
> >| To clarify, as I have been given to understand the MoUs between ICANN
> >| and the regions is not a contract as that term is understood in law.
> >| It is an agreement, but not of legal standing such as a contract.
> >
> >Thanks for your clarification,
> >--
> >Thomas Roessler   <roessler at does-not-exist.org>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On 2007-03-28 13:13:25 +0100, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote:
> >> From: Nick Ashton-Hart <nick.ashton-hart at icann.org>
> >> To: bruch at humanistische-union.de, kiravuo at tml.hut.fi,
> >>       Wolfgang Kleinwächter
> >>       <Wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de>,
> >>       wolfgang at imv.au.dk, aoliva at isoc-cat.org, aoliva at diplomaticnet.com,
> >>       dpefeva at isoc.bg, patrick at vande-walle.eu, Patrick at isoc.lu,
> >>       rudi.vansnick at isoc.be, sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr
> >> Cc: Europe Discuss <euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> >> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:13:25 +0100
> >> Subject: [EURO-Discuss] SIGNERS FOR TOMORROW - URGENT EMAIL
> >> Reply-To: Discussion for At-Large Europe
> >>       <euro-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> >> List-Id: Discussion for At-Large Europe
> >>       <euro-discuss_atlarge-lists.icann.org.atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> >> X-Spam-Level:
> >> X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.1.5
> >>
> >> Dear All:
> >>
> >> I have heard from the following people with the details required to finish
> >> the signature page.
> >>
> >> IF YOU ARE NOT ON THE LIST BELOW PLEASE REPLY ASAP (BEFORE END OF DAY
> >> WEDNESDAY) OR YOU WILL NOT BE ONE OF THE SIGNERS OF THE MOU ON THURSDAY!
> >>
> >> Internet Society - Bulgaria
> >> Signing person: Dragoslava Pefeva
> >> Position: Coordinator for ALAC
> >>
> >> Name of Organisation: Medienstadt Leipzig e.V.
> >>
> >> Name of Signer: Wolfgang Kleinwächter
> >>
> >> Position of Signer: Member of the Board
> >>
> >> > Name of Organisation : Internet Society Belgium
> >>
> >> > Name of Signer : Rudi Vansnick
> >>
> >> > Position of Signer : Chair
> >>
> >> Name of Organisation   Internet Society Luxembourg
> >>
> >> Name of Signer             Patrick Vande Walle
> >>
> >> Position of Signer         Chairman
> >>
> >> Name of Organisation Chapitre français de l'Internet Society – Isoc
> >> France
> >>
> >> Name of Signer Sébastien Bachollet
> >>
> >> Position of Signer Président
> >>
> >>
> >> DIGITAL SIGNERS
> >>
> >> (SEE SEPARATE EMAIL ON THIS SUBJECT)
> >>
> >> Christophe BRUCH
> >> "German Civil Liberties Union / Humanistische Union" (GCLU)
> >>
> >> Board Member
> >>
> >> > Name of Organisation: netzwerk neue medien (nnm) - network new media
> >> (nnm)
> >>
> >> > Name of Signer: Annette Muehlberg
> >>
> >> > Position of Signer: Chair
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> 
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