[Euro-board] Fwd: CENTR - Bruxelles 10 octobre 2018
Andrei Kolesnikov
andrei at rol.ru
Tue Oct 30 17:43:50 UTC 2018
Olivier, test of MoU looks steady. --andrei
вт, 30 окт. 2018 г. в 13:54, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>:
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> please be so kind to find the revised CENTR-EURALO MoU. Please provide
> your feedback as soon as possible. We are hoping to be able to sign
> this, provided it is accepted by CENTR, at the IGF in Paris.
> Kindest regards,
>
> Olivier
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: RE: CENTR - Bruxelles 10 octobre 2018
> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 10:45:06 +0000
> From: Polina Malaja <polina at centr.org>
> To: Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>, Peter Van Roste
> <peter at centr.org>, wilkinson christopher <cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>
> CC: Wale Bakare <wales.baky at gmail.com>, Silvia Vivanco
> <silvia.vivanco at icann.org>
>
>
>
> Dear Olivier,
>
>
>
> Hope all is well and you had a successful ICANN63!
>
>
>
> Please find attached the revised draft for CENTR-EURALO MoU, edited per
> our previous recommendations. Please kindly proceed with informing the
> EURALO Board as you see fit.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Polina
>
>
>
> *From:*Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, 21 October 2018 15:08
> *To:* Polina Malaja <polina at centr.org>; Peter Van Roste
> <peter at centr.org>; wilkinson christopher <cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>
> *Cc:* Wale Bakare <wales.baky at gmail.com>; Silvia Vivanco
> <silvia.vivanco at icann.org>
> *Subject:* Re: CENTR - Bruxelles 10 octobre 2018
>
>
>
> Dear Polina,
>
> thank you very much for your kind response. Please be so kind to find
> the original RIPE NCC-EURALO draft which you may edit per your
> recommendations below. I look forward to receiving a proposed draft from
> you in due course, that I can forward to our EURALO Board.
>
> Having brainstormed the matter of a signing ceremony with my colleagues,
> the Paris IGF meeting may indeed be a perfect opportunity for such
> signing, whether at the At-Large booth, the CENTR booth or indeed a
> venue that might be located within an event by the local CENTR member
> (suggested by Sébastien Bachollet, AFNIC Board member). Let's discuss
> further.
>
> Kindest regards,
>
> Olivier
>
>
> On 18/10/2018 17:37, Polina Malaja wrote:
>
> Dear Olivier,
>
>
>
> I am reaching out today to follow up on the MoU. Thank you very much
> for enclosing the respective examples! The one with the RIPE works
> the best for us. I suggest we take the EURALO-RIPE document as a
> model with a few further rephrasing suggestions below:
>
>
>
> * “Whereas CENTR is a not-for-profit association and has an
> objective to promote and participate in the development of high
> standards among Country Code Top-Level Domain Registries
> (ccTLDs) for the benefit of its members and the internet. The
> organisation has a European focus.”
> * Both parties agree to collaborate in the following ways:[...]
>
> *Rephrase point 2*: Encouraging awareness of each other’s activities
> and mission among their respective members.
>
> *Rephrase point 5:*Raising awareness about DNS and its importance to
> maintaining open internet.
>
> [...]
>
>
>
> The rest of the points can stay as they are in the EURALO-RIPE
> document.
>
>
>
> Please do kindly let me know if you agree with the proposed changes.
>
>
>
> Regarding the signing ceremony, it turns out it is quite difficult
> to find available time during upcoming ICANN as the schedule is
> already pretty tight. I suggest we postpone the signing ceremony of
> the MoU to IGF instead in order to leave more room for arranging
> this with our members.
>
>
>
> Looking forward to hearing back from you.
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Polina
>
>
>
> *From:*Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com> <mailto:ocl at gih.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, 12 October 2018 13:33
> *To:* Peter Van Roste <peter at centr.org> <mailto:peter at centr.org>;
> wilkinson christopher <cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>
> <mailto:cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>
> *Cc:* Polina Malaja <polina at centr.org> <mailto:polina at centr.org>;
> ocl >> Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com> <mailto:ocl at gih.com>
> *Subject:* Re: CENTR - Bruxelles 10 octobre 2018
>
>
>
> Dear Peter,
>
> thank you very much for your kind follow-up. The meanderings of an
> AGM sometimes turn out to take directions that one cannot
> anticipate. I have seen that bridge crossed many times in the past.
> We'll look forward to our application being discussed in Bordeaux.
> In the meantime, following up on your proposal to proceed with
> signing that MoU, have you thought of words for the extent of the
> collaboration? For your information, I am enclosing again a few
> examples of collaborative agreements that have been signed, namely
> the EURALO-RIPE document, the NARALO-ARIN document and the
> APRALO-APTLD document.
> Looking forward to your kind reply.
>
> Kindest regards,
>
> Olivier
>
> On 12/10/2018 12:55, Peter Van Roste wrote:
>
> Dear Christopher, Dear Olivier,
>
>
>
> First of all: my sincere apologies on behalf of the CENTR
> community for what happened last Wednesday.
>
> Following the application from .su, the members engaged in a
> discussion on the interpretation of our statutes.
>
> These things never end well, and so we had to postpone any
> further voting on applications.
>
>
>
> This is an exceptional event and a first in my twelve years at
> CENTR.
>
>
>
> I do hope that you did enjoy indeed the other parts of the
> meeting and the opportunity to meet our members.
>
>
>
> Practically I suggest that we consider the application at our
> next meeting in Bordeaux (March 21-22) and in the meantime
> already sign an MoU at ICANN.
>
> I will be there from Sunday till Wednesday.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: wilkinson christopher <cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>
> <mailto:cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>
>
> Sent: 11 October 2018 09:10
>
> To: Peter Van Roste <peter at centr.org> <mailto:peter at centr.org>
>
> Cc: Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com> <mailto:ocl at gih.com>
>
> Subject: Re: CENTR - Bruxelles 10 octobre 2018
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Peter :
>
>
>
> Thankyou for the opportunity to attend the CENTR meeting in
> Brussels yesterday. I learnt a great deal about your current and
> planned activities. In order to brief EURALO correctly about the
> information and discussion, I would be glad if CENTR could send
> me Links to the principal presentations.
>
>
>
> You will understand if I express some surprise and not a little
> disappointment about the unexpected outcome at the end of the
> meeting, not least in the light of EURALO having funded my visit
> to Brussels.
>
>
>
> May I suggest that – when the dust has settled - you take an
> opportunity to review the position with Olivier, EURALO Chair,
> in copy, preferably before Barcelona. I am sure that EURALO
> would wish to proceed with our application, this procedural
> hiccup notwithstanding.
>
>
>
> Again, many thanks for allowing me to participate in your
> interesting and instructive meeting.
>
>
>
> With best personal regards
>
>
>
> Christopher.
>
>
>
>
>
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