[Euro-board] Fwd: CENTR - Bruxelles 10 octobre 2018

Tue Oct 30 13:43:49 UTC 2018

Dear Olivier,

based on the model of our MoU with RIPE, this draft is acceptable. 

I suggest some minor changes:
- the first Whereas clause should read ‘’Whereas CENTR is a not-for-profit association whose purpose is to promote and participate in…’'
- 5) should read ''Raising awareness about the DNS and its importance in maintaining an open Internet’’
- 6) should read ‘’Collaborating on joint capacity-building events…’’ (with a hyphen between capacity and building).

Best regards,
Jean-Jacques.

Le 30 octobre 2018 à 11:54:08, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond (ocl at gih.com) a écrit:

Dear Colleagues,  

please be so kind to find the revised CENTR-EURALO MoU. Please provide  
your feedback as soon as possible. We are hoping to be able to sign  
this, provided it is accepted by CENTR, at the IGF in Paris.  
Kindest regards,  

Olivier  

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Subject: RE: CENTR - Bruxelles 10 octobre 2018  
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 10:45:06 +0000  
From: Polina Malaja <polina at centr.org>  
To: Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>, Peter Van Roste  
<peter at centr.org>, wilkinson christopher <cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>  
CC: Wale Bakare <wales.baky at gmail.com>, Silvia Vivanco  
<silvia.vivanco at icann.org>  

Dear Olivier,  

Hope all is well and you had a successful ICANN63!  

Please find attached the revised draft for CENTR-EURALO MoU, edited per  
our previous recommendations. Please kindly proceed with informing the  
EURALO Board as you see fit.  

Kind regards,  

Polina  

*From:*Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>  
*Sent:* Sunday, 21 October 2018 15:08  
*To:* Polina Malaja <polina at centr.org>; Peter Van Roste  
<peter at centr.org>; wilkinson christopher <cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>  
*Cc:* Wale Bakare <wales.baky at gmail.com>; Silvia Vivanco  
<silvia.vivanco at icann.org>  
*Subject:* Re: CENTR - Bruxelles 10 octobre 2018  

Dear Polina,  

thank you very much for your kind response. Please be so kind to find  
the original RIPE NCC-EURALO draft which you may edit per your  
recommendations below. I look forward to receiving a proposed draft from  
you in due course, that I can forward to our EURALO Board.  

Having brainstormed the matter of a signing ceremony with my colleagues,  
the Paris IGF meeting may indeed be a perfect opportunity for such  
signing, whether at the At-Large booth, the CENTR booth or indeed a  
venue that might be located within an event by the local CENTR member  
(suggested by Sébastien Bachollet, AFNIC Board member). Let's discuss  
further.  

Kindest regards,  

Olivier  

On 18/10/2018 17:37, Polina Malaja wrote:  

Dear Olivier,  

I am reaching out today to follow up on the MoU. Thank you very much  
for enclosing the respective examples! The one with the RIPE works  
the best for us. I suggest we take the EURALO-RIPE document as a  
model with a few further rephrasing suggestions below:  

* “Whereas CENTR is a not-for-profit association and has an  
objective to promote and participate in the development of high  
standards among Country Code Top-Level Domain Registries  
(ccTLDs) for the benefit of its members and the internet. The  
organisation has a European focus.”  
* Both parties agree to collaborate in the following ways:[...]  

*Rephrase point 2*: Encouraging awareness of each other’s activities  
and mission among their respective members.  

*Rephrase point 5:*Raising awareness about DNS and its importance to  
maintaining open internet.  

[...]  

The rest of the points can stay as they are in the EURALO-RIPE document.  

Please do kindly let me know if you agree with the proposed changes.  

Regarding the signing ceremony, it turns out it is quite difficult  
to find available time during upcoming ICANN as the schedule is  
already pretty tight. I suggest we postpone the signing ceremony of  
the MoU to IGF instead in order to leave more room for arranging  
this with our members.  

Looking forward to hearing back from you.  

Kind regards,  

Polina  

*From:*Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com> <mailto:ocl at gih.com>  
*Sent:* Friday, 12 October 2018 13:33  
*To:* Peter Van Roste <peter at centr.org> <mailto:peter at centr.org>;  
wilkinson christopher <cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>  
<mailto:cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>  
*Cc:* Polina Malaja <polina at centr.org> <mailto:polina at centr.org>;  
ocl >> Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com> <mailto:ocl at gih.com>  
*Subject:* Re: CENTR - Bruxelles 10 octobre 2018  

Dear Peter,  

thank you very much for your kind follow-up. The meanderings of an  
AGM sometimes turn out to take directions that one cannot  
anticipate. I have seen that bridge crossed many times in the past.  
We'll look forward to our application being discussed in Bordeaux.  
In the meantime, following up on your proposal to proceed with  
signing that MoU, have you thought of words for the extent of the  
collaboration? For your information, I am enclosing again a few  
examples of collaborative agreements that have been signed, namely  
the EURALO-RIPE document, the NARALO-ARIN document and the  
APRALO-APTLD document.  
Looking forward to your kind reply.  

Kindest regards,  

Olivier  

On 12/10/2018 12:55, Peter Van Roste wrote:  

Dear Christopher, Dear Olivier,  

First of all: my sincere apologies on behalf of the CENTR  
community for what happened last Wednesday.  

Following the application from .su, the members engaged in a  
discussion on the interpretation of our statutes.  

These things never end well, and so we had to postpone any  
further voting on applications.  

This is an exceptional event and a first in my twelve years at  
CENTR.  

I do hope that you did enjoy indeed the other parts of the  
meeting and the opportunity to meet our members.  

Practically I suggest that we consider the application at our  
next meeting in Bordeaux (March 21-22) and in the meantime  
already sign an MoU at ICANN.  

I will be there from Sunday till Wednesday.  

Best Regards,  

Peter  

-----Original Message-----  

From: wilkinson christopher <cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>  
<mailto:cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>  

Sent: 11 October 2018 09:10  

To: Peter Van Roste <peter at centr.org> <mailto:peter at centr.org>  

Cc: Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com> <mailto:ocl at gih.com>  

Subject: Re: CENTR - Bruxelles 10 octobre 2018  

Dear Peter :  

Thankyou for the opportunity to attend the CENTR meeting in  
Brussels yesterday. I learnt a great deal about your current and  
planned activities. In order to brief EURALO correctly about the  
information and discussion, I would be glad if CENTR could send  
me Links to the principal presentations.  

You will understand if I express some surprise and not a little  
disappointment about the unexpected outcome at the end of the  
meeting, not least in the light of EURALO having funded my visit  
to Brussels.  

May I suggest that – when the dust has settled - you take an  
opportunity to review the position with Olivier, EURALO Chair,  
in copy, preferably before Barcelona. I am sure that EURALO  
would wish to proceed with our application, this procedural  
hiccup notwithstanding.  

Again, many thanks for allowing me to participate in your  
interesting and instructive meeting.  

With best personal regards  

Christopher.  

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