[Euro-board] Fwd: CENTR - Bruxelles 10 octobre 2018

Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond ocl at gih.com
Tue Oct 30 10:54:00 UTC 2018


Dear Colleagues,

please be so kind to find the revised CENTR-EURALO MoU. Please provide
your feedback as soon as possible. We are hoping to be able to sign
this, provided it is accepted by CENTR, at the IGF in Paris.
Kindest regards,

Olivier

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Subject: 	RE: CENTR - Bruxelles 10 octobre 2018
Date: 	Tue, 30 Oct 2018 10:45:06 +0000
From: 	Polina Malaja <polina at centr.org>
To: 	Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>, Peter Van Roste
<peter at centr.org>, wilkinson christopher <cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>
CC: 	Wale Bakare <wales.baky at gmail.com>, Silvia Vivanco
<silvia.vivanco at icann.org>



Dear Olivier,

 

Hope all is well and you had a successful ICANN63!

 

Please find attached the revised draft for CENTR-EURALO MoU, edited per
our previous recommendations. Please kindly proceed with informing the
EURALO Board as you see fit.

 

Kind regards,

Polina

 

*From:*Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, 21 October 2018 15:08
*To:* Polina Malaja <polina at centr.org>; Peter Van Roste
<peter at centr.org>; wilkinson christopher <cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>
*Cc:* Wale Bakare <wales.baky at gmail.com>; Silvia Vivanco
<silvia.vivanco at icann.org>
*Subject:* Re: CENTR - Bruxelles 10 octobre 2018

 

Dear Polina,

thank you very much for your kind response. Please be so kind to find
the original RIPE NCC-EURALO draft which you may edit per your
recommendations below. I look forward to receiving a proposed draft from
you in due course, that I can forward to our EURALO Board.

Having brainstormed the matter of a signing ceremony with my colleagues,
the Paris IGF meeting may indeed be a perfect opportunity for such
signing, whether at the At-Large booth, the CENTR booth or indeed a
venue that might be located within an event by the local CENTR member
(suggested by Sébastien Bachollet, AFNIC Board member). Let's discuss
further.

Kindest regards,

Olivier


On 18/10/2018 17:37, Polina Malaja wrote:

    Dear Olivier,

     

    I am reaching out today to follow up on the MoU. Thank you very much
    for enclosing the respective examples! The one with the RIPE works
    the best for us. I suggest we take the EURALO-RIPE document as a
    model with a few further rephrasing suggestions below:

     

      * “Whereas CENTR is a not-for-profit association and has an
        objective to promote and participate in the development of high
        standards among Country Code Top-Level Domain Registries
        (ccTLDs) for the benefit of its members and the internet. The
        organisation has a European focus.”
      * Both parties agree to collaborate in the following ways:[...]

    *Rephrase point 2*: Encouraging awareness of each other’s activities
    and mission among their respective members.

    *Rephrase point 5:*Raising awareness about DNS and its importance to
    maintaining open internet.

    [...]

     

    The rest of the points can stay as they are in the EURALO-RIPE document.

     

    Please do kindly let me know if you agree with the proposed changes.

     

    Regarding the signing ceremony, it turns out it is quite difficult
    to find available time during upcoming ICANN as the schedule is
    already pretty tight. I suggest we postpone the signing ceremony of
    the MoU to IGF instead in order to leave more room for arranging
    this with our members.

     

    Looking forward to hearing back from you.

     

     

    Kind regards,

    Polina

     

    *From:*Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com> <mailto:ocl at gih.com>
    *Sent:* Friday, 12 October 2018 13:33
    *To:* Peter Van Roste <peter at centr.org> <mailto:peter at centr.org>;
    wilkinson christopher <cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>
    <mailto:cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>
    *Cc:* Polina Malaja <polina at centr.org> <mailto:polina at centr.org>;
    ocl >> Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com> <mailto:ocl at gih.com>
    *Subject:* Re: CENTR - Bruxelles 10 octobre 2018

     

    Dear Peter,

    thank you very much for your kind follow-up. The meanderings of an
    AGM sometimes turn out to take directions that one cannot
    anticipate. I have seen that bridge crossed many times in the past.
    We'll look forward to our application being discussed in Bordeaux.
    In the meantime, following up on your proposal to proceed with
    signing that MoU, have you thought of words for the extent of the
    collaboration? For your information, I am enclosing again a few
    examples of collaborative agreements that have been signed, namely
    the EURALO-RIPE document, the NARALO-ARIN document and the
    APRALO-APTLD document.
    Looking forward to your kind reply.

    Kindest regards,

    Olivier

    On 12/10/2018 12:55, Peter Van Roste wrote:

        Dear Christopher, Dear Olivier,

         

        First of all: my sincere apologies on behalf of the CENTR
        community for what happened last Wednesday.

        Following the application from .su, the members engaged in a
        discussion on the interpretation of our statutes.

        These things never end well, and so we had to postpone any
        further voting on applications.

         

        This is an exceptional event and a first in my twelve years at
        CENTR.

         

        I do hope that you did enjoy indeed the other parts of the
        meeting and the opportunity to meet our members.

         

        Practically I suggest that we consider the application at our
        next meeting in Bordeaux (March 21-22) and in the meantime
        already sign an MoU at ICANN.

        I will be there from Sunday till Wednesday.

         

        Best Regards,

        Peter

         

         

         

        -----Original Message-----

        From: wilkinson christopher <cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>
        <mailto:cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>

        Sent: 11 October 2018 09:10

        To: Peter Van Roste <peter at centr.org> <mailto:peter at centr.org>

        Cc: Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com> <mailto:ocl at gih.com>

        Subject: Re: CENTR - Bruxelles 10 octobre 2018

         

         

        Dear Peter :

         

        Thankyou for the opportunity to attend the CENTR meeting in
        Brussels yesterday. I learnt a great deal about your current and
        planned activities. In order to brief EURALO correctly about the
        information and discussion, I would be glad if CENTR could send
        me Links to the principal presentations.

         

        You will understand if I express some surprise and not a little
        disappointment about the unexpected outcome at the end of the
        meeting, not least in the light of EURALO having funded my visit
        to Brussels.

         

        May I suggest that – when the dust has settled - you take an
        opportunity to review the position with Olivier, EURALO Chair,
        in copy, preferably before Barcelona. I am sure that EURALO
        would wish to proceed with our application, this procedural
        hiccup notwithstanding.

         

        Again, many thanks for allowing me to participate in your
        interesting and instructive meeting.

         

        With best personal regards

         

        Christopher.

         

     

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