[Euro-board] EURALO Board Action Items posted

Fri Apr 1 13:45:34 UTC 2016

Dear all,
I'd like to add a bit.

1. Olivier, you missed one of Sebastien's comment. On the right bottom of
the first page. It is written "Join our mailing list: *LINK HERE*"???

2. About "significant numbers of independent members".
The total number of independent At-Large members is only 21. 7 independent
members has NARALO and 14 members - one of our ALS - *European Individual
Users Association*
So, I suggest either to exclude "significant" or to mention 21 as a number
of such members.

3. A pair of comments.

- I'm not agree with the last tow sentences in the box "What is ICANN" -
left bottom on the second page.
"ICANN, formed in 1998, is a not-for-profit global organizantion dedicated
to keeping the Internet secure, stable and interoperable. It promotes
competition and develops policy on the Internet’s unique identifiers."
   -> "global organization" is not correct. ICANN is the USA organization,
based in California. I prefer simply to exclude "global"
   -> "It promotes competition and develops policy" is not correct. No
competition at all. Policies is the result of bottom up process. Policy is
the result that goes from the SO and AC.
         So, I suggest to take one phrase directly from ICANN's Bylaw
instead of the last sentence.

"The mission of ICANN is to coordinate, at the overall level, the global
Internet's systems of unique identifiers, and in particular to ensure the
stable and secure operation of the Internet's unique identifier systems."

-  I'm not aggree with the text in the box "What is the European Regional
At-Large organization (EURALO)

-> the last sentencie "Playing a key role in ICANN’s regional strategies,
several RALOs partner with ICANN’s Global Stakeholder Engagement team to
facilitate the development of critical infrastructure for the Domain Name
System." is not clear to me.

We are speaking about EURALO in the box with name "What is the EURALO?".
ICANN has no such document as Regional Strategy for Europe (and also North
America).

-> To "facilitate the development of critical infrastructure for the Domain
Name System" is the issue to think about for GNSO and/or ccNSO, not for
RALOs
Our goals are (look at the MoU):

= To provide a forum and promote and encourage European Internet users'
participation and involvement in ICANN in an open, accountable and
transparent manner;
= To promote, understand and advocate for individual Internet users and to
provide a forum for outreach, co-ordination and exchange of information and
knowledge for persons who live in the European region as defined by ICANN;
= To act as an interface between individual Internet users and ICANN and to
promote skills development and information exchange related to the Internet
amongst Members;
= To breach the digital divide and encourage users in developing countries
to participate in EURALO.

= To promote multilingual access to, and participation in, ICANN's work,
and to respect other aspects of cultural diversity

As to me it is not bad to copy above wording or some part to the flyer.

4. I have one comment directly inside the text of the email from Olivier.
To change "end user" to "internet user".

Best
Mikhail

2016-03-31 18:49 GMT+03:00 Wolf Ludwig <wolf.ludwig at comunica-ch.net>:

> Dear all,
>
> this is just to note that I agree with all points and comments from
> Olivier below. Thanks and
>
> kind regards,
> Wolf
>
>
> Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote Thu, 31 Mar 2016 12:54:
> >Thanks for this Sébastien.
> >
> >I agree with the points you have made but let me respond to a few:
> >
> >"no need to have this text twice in the document"
> >-> Agreed
> >
> >"any agreement with other European Org?"
> >--> there is an agreement with EuroDIG. Nothing with RIPE nor CENTR yet.
> >At this stage, as things might change, I'd prefer not to mention any
> >specific agreements.
> >
> >end users vs. Internet users
> >--> I know this is a bit of a religious discussion. The ICANN bylaws use:
> >"The At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) is the primary organizational
> >home within ICANN for individual Internet users."
> >
> >So Internet users is now the preferred term.
> >
> >No - there are not growing more than the ALS and in Europe Individual
> >members are in one ALS
> >--> I do not think that the text as it currently is, implies that they
> >are growing at a faster rate than ALSes.
> >The text is: "There are over 190 At-Large Structures (ALSes) around the
> >world and a growing number of independent members."
> >It just says that there is an increasing number of independent members,
> >but it does not imply that they are growing at a faster rate. May
> >suggest removing the ambiguity:
> >"There are over 190 At-Large Structures (ALSes) around the world and a
> >significant number of independent members."
> >
> >ISOC Chapters, capacity building org
> >--> I would refrain from mentioning a specific organisation name.
> >That said, the sentence needs re-writing. At present it is:
> >"Whether it is an Internet-related
> >consumer rights group, an academic organization, or a
> >public-minded individual, we share a passion for furthering
> >the development of ICTs and contributing to policies that
> >influence the technical coordination of the Domain Name
> >System."
> >
> >Suggestion for replacement text:
> >Our membership is diverse, ranging from Internet-related
> >consumer rights groups, academic organizations, computer
> >clubs, technical communities, to civil society organizations.
> >We share a passion for furthering the development of ICTs
> >and contributing to policies that influence the technical
> >coordination of the Domain Name System to better serve
> >end users.
>

To write "internet users" instead of "end users" 

> >
> >(please note z in organisations, in line with the official calling of
> >EURALO: European Regional At-Large Organization)
> >
> >our community of end users
> >--> I don't think we need to repeat this here too. We've repeated it
> >enough elsewhere on the flyer.
> >
> >Finally -- a sharp eye -- well done to Sébastien for spotting Lorem
> >Ipsum in top right hand corner of the 2nd page.
> >
> >My suggestion for text there:
> >
> >"Our region represents a significant number of Internet users in the
> >world. EURALO has a significant voice in influencing ICANN's
> >multistakeholder policy development. Why don't you consider joining as
> >an individual or with your organization? *The Internet is yours.*"
> >
> >Kindest regards,
> >
> >Olivier
> >
> >On 29/03/2016 23:56, Sébastien Bachollet wrote:
> >> Hello
> >> Please find attache the Euralo Flyer with my comments
> >> All the best
> >> SeB
> >>
> >> Skills are useful but diversity is essential.
> >>
> >> Sébastien Bachollet
> >> +33 6 07 66 89 33
> >> Blog: http://sebastien.bachollet.fr/
> >> Mail: Sébastien Bachollet <sebastien at bachollet.com>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Le 16/02/2016 02:40, « Silvia Vivanco »
> >> <euro-board-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of
> >> silvia.vivanco at icann.org> a écrit :
> >>
> >>> Dear EURALO Board members,
> >>>
> >>> Kindly see below the Action Items of today's call posted on the wiki
> >>> page. Please review and edit as you think appropriate.
> >>>
> >>> Action Items:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 1.      Task Force on ALS engagement, Members:  Wolf Ludwig,  Jordi
> >>> Iparraguirre, Olivier Crepin Leblond.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  *   Silvia Vivanco<
> https://community.icann.org/display/~silvia.vivanco>
> >>> to send a call for more members to join the Taskforce.
> >>>  *   Yesim Nazlar<https://community.icann.org/display/~yesim.nazlar>
> to
> >>> create 2 new mailing list for the EURALO task forces.
> >>>
> >>>    2.  Task Force on review and revision of the EURALO by-Laws
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  *   Silvia Vivanco<
> https://community.icann.org/display/~silvia.vivanco>
> >>> to send a call for volunteers to join the Taskforce
> >>> Members: Olivier Crepin Leblond, Mikhail Medrish (who suggested to look
> >>> at what the other RALOs have done), Annette Muehlberg find out if there
> >>> is anything we do that is a clash with the By-laws and Wolf Ludwig.
> >>>
> >>>  3. EURALO flyer: Task is to update the flyers and add any new text and
> >>> photos. Deadline: End of April.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  *   Silvia Vivanco<
> https://community.icann.org/display/~silvia.vivanco>
> >>> to send flyer to the EURALO Board list.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you!
> >>>
> >>> Silvia
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Silvia Vivanco
> >>> Manager, At Large Regional Affairs
> >>> ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
> >>> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org/>
> >>>
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