[Euro-board] Draft Agenda EURALO GA in London

Fri May 30 01:17:27 UTC 2014

Dear Olivier,

thanks for your valuable comments. Please find my remarks inserted below.

Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote Fri, 30 May 2014 00:59:
>Dear Wolf,
>
>thank you for your explanation about the shortening of the bylaws.
>Indeed it would be a waste of time to attempt to re-write the bylaws
>when meeting face to face. It would be worth launching a small WG as you
>suggest at the GA & give it a task to revert back to the EURALO Board,
>say, 6 months later, with proposals? (or just before the Los Angeles
>ICANN meeting?)

(WL) If we can find a small group of people (Board and other members) who are willing to work on this -- fine. But as mentioned before, this does not work by "volunteering only". As we know from the past, Bylaws are always "touchy" or complex at least. And those people need to be familiar with different European association law models and standards to come up with some solid suggestions within a shorter period of time (6 months). From the 2006 experience we know that this can provoke frictions and endless discussions when people don't have a clear and common concept in mind!

>Re: ICANN Strategy for Europe, I thought that the presence of
>Jean-Jacques Sahel will help with this. In a recent call I have had with
>Jean-Jacques, he has expressed his interest in hearing about us. So it
>is fair to say that we will have a strong voice in the ICANN Strategy in
>Europe. I fully support sticking to point 14 - with the added suggestion
>that we look at the bigger picture too and with the knowledge that we
>are likely to receive much more support from ICANN in realising our
>strategy than a few years ago.

(WL) Reflecting past GAs I still have some doubts to "over-demand" the majority of our members with this. Simply because a small group of regular insiders only is familiar with this broader ICANN Strategy plans while most members have not followed related discussions. And a F2F GA shouldn't be a teaching session. A compromise could be to combine the EURALO and ICANN strategy (broader picture) debate under AI 14.

>Let me repeat this here: just like many other Stakeholders out there,
>At-Large and RALOs are going to play a key role in the future of the
>Internet Governance Ecosystem.

(WL) Agreed on that in principle but EURALO's current functioning is far from this expectation. Or just reflecting how many members participate on the list and at our monthly calls?

Kind regards,
Wolf

>
>
>On 29/05/2014 23:44, Wolf Ludwig wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> as repeatedly and lengthly explained before on your point 1 -- once again:
>>
>> We realized long time ago some "problems" with the EURALO Bylaws when we amended them in spring 2011 (before the Belgrade GA). Most EURALO insiders are aware that the Bylaws are *too long, bulky, overloaded and according to rigid German association law standards* under which they were drafted in 2006. Over the years we realized that many parts and prescriptions do not correspond with our functioning and realities or on a regular level -- on the other hand, they *do not restrain* our functioning neither.
>>
>> Therefore, such "revision" of our Bylaws would mainly mean *reduction to the essentials* but not rewriting of the Bylaws as such. And if we do this, this must be done by a small group of people who are experienced and familiar with different association law standards and regimes. IMO, such a work would mean a cutting down from heavy and rigid German standards to "simple and easy to handle" Swiss standards which are well recognized for this.
>>
>> And I think, almost everybody has understood so far that such a work or special task cannot be done during a General Assembly but as outlined above! Furthermore, I really think we have plenty of other (functioning) problems which are far more urgent to discuss about than Bylaws revision  -- what is a "nice to have" compared with.
>>
>> On your other points:
>> "2.  ICANN strategy for Europe" -- I am sure most members are not even aware about this and we should therefore (and given the short time) concentrate on our own strategy -- what is on the draft Agenda, point 14.
>>
>> "3. Stimulating of grass-root activities" -- To my understanding, this is part of the discussion under point 10. And as said before and given the short time for this GA, we should focus on EURALO issues and its dis/functioning rather than expanding on more issues.
>>
>> Other comments from Board members are welcome!
>>
>> Best,
>> Wolf
>>
>>
>> Oksana Prykhodko wrote Thu, 29 May 2014 22:25:
>>> Dear Wolf, dear all,
>>>
>>> I think this aenda lacks three very important issues:
>>>
>>> 1. EURALO Bylaws revision;
>>>
>>> 2. ICANN strategy for Europe discussion;
>>>
>>> 3. Stimulating of grass-root activities.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Oksana
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 10:41 AM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looks good to me Wolf, thanks as always.
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>> On May 29, 2014, at 4:21 AM, Wolf Ludwig <wolf.ludwig at comunica-ch.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> as discussed last week at our monthly call, we need to send an
>>>> Invitation and draft Agenda via the list three weeks prior to the meeting.
>>>> A first draft for the agenda you can find here:
>>>> https://community.icann.org/display/EURALO/Draft+Agenda+EURALO+GA+2014%2C+London
>>>>> If no objections are raised from your side, I will circulate this over
>>>> the weekend. Furthermore, I will prepare a draft of the Chair’s Report
>>>> 2013-2014 and will submit it for review prior to the meeting. If you are
>>>> willing to contribute, we can call this "Board report", as in previous
>>>> years.
>>>>> Thanks for your comments and
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>> Wolf
>>>>>
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