[Euro-board] Draft EURALO petition on At-Large slate

Wolf Ludwig wolf.ludwig at comunica-ch.net
Wed Nov 3 21:07:05 UTC 2010

Hi Rudi,

thanks for your response on the subject! To keep it short and precise: It is now to decide on an extension of our petition on 3 candidates what - in case of consideration by the BCEC - will result in a voting ballot of 3 Europeans (Sébastien, JJS and Jordi), 2 North-Americans (Alan Greenberg and Avri Doria) and one representative from the South/Africa (Pierre Dandjinou) what could be perceived as a problem of proportionality, regional balance etc. ...

In the case of Avri Doria, it's different because Avri was suggested by some of *our* members before and (in my function as chair) I see a responsibility on behalf of EURALO members to start this petition because there was no objection so far by other members and there seems to be agreement that she would be highly qualified for this position ( JJS and Jordi without doubt as well but we were not asked by them so far to lobby on their behalf). What I am asking for is:

-to petition for one (Avri) or three (JJS and Jordi)?
-approval or modification of my draft ciruclated yesterday?

If there is no more response until tomorrow (I have a full travel and working day as well), I will send the petition (reduced on Avri) to At-Large Staff tomorrow evening asking them to forward it to the RALO Chairs. Any more comments are welcome.

Best Regards,

Rudi Vansnick wrote Wed, 3 Nov 2010 20:18:
>Sorry for late response due to high workload at professional level.
>My impression on the idea of petition goes in the direction of Adam.
>Asking for petition is somehow requesting more European candidates to be accepted (2 of 3 on the list). As such, I'm wondering how are colleagues from the other RALO's would react on this fact. 
>Another aspect I'm just thinking about the fact we want to select candidates that have been on the board for a certain period of time, not having been part of the ALAC in the past. I'm not discussing on the value of the candidates, only on the level of representation of the ALAC community. I may be wrong but that's so far my perception.
>At the other side, I'm also wondering why we need more candidates ? It will complicate the further process of elections, if I'm not wrong.
>I know, and again sorry, I have not been very active the last couple of months, I have been following the mailinglist and it looks to me that, what I just mentioned above, is probably living among other members of the community who don't speak up.
>Always open to further discussion.
>Best regards,
>Rudi Vansnick
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>Op 3-nov-2010 44, om 17:44 heeft Wolf Ludwig het volgende geschreven:
>> Dear all,
>> sorry for pushing but I would like to settle this petition ASAP 
>> (because time is pressing). And I didn't get much response on my 
>> yesterday's draft so far (can't imagine it was too bad). Or I could 
>> take it as a kind of silent approval?
>> There is one point, I think we should CONSIDER carefully (what I 
>> mentioned in a previous mail pasted below). It was an argument 
>> raised by Adam as well, *the question of proportionality and appearance 
>> of our petition to other RALOs*. The more I reflect, the more uncertain 
>> I am whether it would be politically wise to go for an extension with 
>> 3 candidates (admitting that JJS and Jordi are highly qualified as well).
>> My main concern is that our demand to have three Europeans and 
>> two North-Americans on the ballot may provoke some consternation 
>> among our colleagues from the South. Your comments on this are 
>> WELCOME! Thanks and 
>> kind regards,
>> Wolf
>> Wolf Ludwig wrote 02 Nov 2010:
>> Once we agreed to have a petition for the mentioned three, we have 
>> to ask the other two whether they agree to our petitioning on their 
>> behalf -- this was a matter of course to me, perhaps silent enough ;-)
>> Your second point came to my mind as well, the question of proportionality 
>> and appearance to other RALOs, especially those of the South. For Avri we 
>> have a kind of mandate already, the other two Europeans didn't ask us yet 
>> for doing this. Lobbying for three Europeans and an additional Northern 
>> American will somehow marginalise the only candidate from the South (Pierre) 
>> what is not intended by us but could be perceived as the old Northern or 
>> notorious post-colonial hegemony or arrogance (they still believe they are 
>> the best ...) and provoke unwanted but understandable counter reflexes. 
>> This IMO is a serious point to be taken into consideration.
>> Wolf Ludwig wrote Tue, 02 Nov 2010 16:31:
>>> Dear all,
>>> as repeatedly discussed with several of you, I think there is consent that EURALO should launch an inter-RALO petition to get Avri and some more valid candidates back on the slate again. Below you can find a draft for such a petition to organise support from (at least two) other RALOs. Your comments, editings (from native speakers) ,modifications etc. are strongly welcome -- but please mark or insert them in the draft text already (to avoid time intensive tracing of suggested modifications for the final version).  Thanks! If Olivier wants to co-sign the letter, you are welcome.
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Wolf
>>> --- beginning (Draft) ---
>>> EURALO Petition text:
>>> Dear Fatima,
>>> Dear Hong,
>>> Dear Andrés,
>>> Dear Evan,
>>> Dear RALO members
>>> In the context of the on-going At-Large voting Board Director selection process EURALO members suggested Avri Doria in August 2010 already to be added on the ALAC list of potential candidates. Avri Doria submitted her Statement of Interest (SoI) to the BCDE and ICANN as a prerequisite for being considered. EURALO supported her candidature because we believe Avri would be an excellent BD for the user community in view of her long-standing expertise, involvement at ICANN, sensitivity for user and community concerns and her proven leadership capacities. When Avri submitted her remarkable SoI, we were reaffirmed that she would be a suitable candidate for this position. 
>>> There was considerable disappointment in the EURALO community when we learned from the At-Large slate published last week that she was not even nominated. We face some difficulties to understand why only three candidates were short-listed in a given option of five to seven and out of 22 pre-verified names. The lack of any gender consideration is only one disturbing aspect of the final selection. And as we could see from the Overview of Applicants on At-Large Director Candidate 2010 Workspace 
>>> (see --  https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Director+Candidate+2010+Workspace)
>>> there were some more highly qualified and suitable applicants who were not considered needlessly narrowing variety and option of choice for the At-Large community.
>>> As you may be aware, there is an agreed procedure that EURALO members will be consulted over the next weeks to vote on their preferred candidates to enable a directed vote to the EURALO Chair. And some of our members indicated their frustration and concern already about the given lack of choices. We were therefore asked to launch an inter-RALO petition ASAP to extend the At-Large voting slate again. According to the rules of procedure, candidates can only be reintroduced on the final slate if they get support from three RALOs at least. Therefore we would like to ask you for your respective support on the reconsideration of the following candidates:
>>> -Avri Doria
>>> -Jean-Jacques Subrenat
>>> -Jordi Palet Martinez
>>> We think it is self-explanatory that petitioning on behalf of someone or more candidates on a slate does not indicate any prejudice or mean a promise to vote for them – what is in the well-understood sovereignty of each RALO and its members. Decisions on voting should be based however on variety of choice, equality of gender and chances and full consideration of the candidates’ potentials. Under these conditions our members will have a broader chance of selection to make up their minds. We are simply trying to give ourselves the best options in selecting the best candidate.
>>> We would appreciate any favourable consideration and forwarding of our petition to your RALO and members and would be grateful for your support.
>>> Thanks and kind regards,
>>> Wolf Ludwig
>>> EURALO Chair
>>> --- end of draft ---
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