[Euro-board] TR: [ALAC-ExCom] TR: EURALO statement on the Operational Plan and Budget

Tue Apr 21 17:02:56 EDT 2009

Dear all,

>>(...) what we really 
>need is for RALOs, and At-Large, to decide upon *what it wants to 
>accomplish first*, and then from that costs can be put together. (...)

IMO this is why we are working on a EURALO strategy and a Work plan 
to define goals, RALO org., means, tools, events, outreach, steps etc. 
how best we can achieve our goals. But to implement such a work plan 
I/we cannot sit at home and wait until people / groups / user orgs. may 
come to us asking for participation. We have to be pro-active and use 
relevant events and fora to make EURALO-ALAC-ICANN known whenever 
possible. And for these outreach activities - we partly listed already in our 
draft - we simply need some basic support (at least for effective costs like 
travel and accomodation) - I am not talking about time investments for 
preparation, absences and follow-up ...

I think, it should be evident that we are not doing this for our personal 
pleasure. We simply want to improve our outreach and increase EURALO's 
impact (*what it wants to accomplish first*) and for this kind of specific 
activities we calculated some costs in our Working Budget by clearly saying 
that more details will be submitted ...

Best,
Wolf

 Sébastien Bachollet wrote Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:20:
>For your knowledge.
>All the best
>
>Sébastien Bachollet
>Président d'honneur - Isoc France
>sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr
>www.egeni.org
>www.isoc.fr
> 
>

 Nick Ashton-Hart wrote mercredi 1 avril 2009 10:11:
>Dear All:
>
>Unfortunately receiving these now means that they have to be sent in as 
>public comments. We are far beyond the point at which I can submit them 
>for the draft budget.
>
>May I also ask you to consider the following:
>
>ICANN budgeting is (and always has been) project based, and is becoming 
>more so. The board wants to see performance against objectives in the 
>operating plan, which are themselves congruent with the strategic plan.
>
>Therefore, compiling costs and submitting them is actually the opposite 
>of how the budget is put together. It is for this reason that Denise, 
>Doug, me, and Kevin have, year after year, suggested that what we really 
>need is for RALOs, and At-Large, to decide upon *what it wants to 
>accomplish first*, and then from that costs can be put together.  Almost 
>without exception, instead what we get is *how much people want to 
>spend, generally with little or nothing said about what the funds spent 
>are meant to accomplish*, and without any connection with the operating 
>plan or the strategic plan.
>
>Then, when AL doesn't get all of what it asks for, we have calls for 
>detailed actual-to-budget spending, anger that the community was 
>ignored, etc.
>
>Having watched this all play out year after year, I'd REALLY like to 
>break this cycle. It doesn't work for you, it doesn't work for anyone.
>
>I'm open to suggestions about what we can do.
>
>Sébastien Bachollet wrote:
>> Hello,
>> For you info, the proposed budget form Euralo.
>> I guess it will be interesting to have the same from each RALO and some
>kind
>> of consolidation.
>> Maybe the Ralo Secretariats can handle that?
>> All the best
>>
>> Sébastien Bachollet
>> Président d'honneur - Isoc France
>> sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr
>> www.egeni.org
>> www.isoc.fr
>>  
>>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : Wolf Ludwig [mailto:wolf.ludwig at comunica-ch.net] 
>> Envoyé : vendredi 27 mars 2009 16:28
>> À : sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr
>> Objet : RE: [Euro-board] EURALO statement on the Operational Plan and
>Budget
>>
>> Cher Sébastien,
>>
>> I was very busy the last ten days with professional stuff and couldn't
>> accomplish this Budget issue earlier -- sorry. 
>>
>> Attached please find a revised Budget version as discussed at the GA in
>> Mexico with inclusion of some costs for the 3rd GA under point 2. Thanks
>for
>> forwarding this revised and GA approved EURALO Budget version to the ALAC
>> Budget Committee. 
>>
>> Amitiés,
>> Wolf
>>
>>
>>  Sébastien Bachollet wrote Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:25:
>>   
>>> Merci Wolf,
>>> Pourrais-tu me faire parvenir une copie de la demande de budget pour 
>>> Euralo ?
>>> Amitiés
>>>
>>> Sébastien Bachollet
>>> Président d'honneur - Isoc France
>>> sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr
>>> www.egeni.org
>>> www.isoc.fr
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>>     
>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>> De : euro-board-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:euro-board- 
>>>> bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] De la part de Wolf Ludwig Envoyé : 
>>>> vendredi 27 mars 2009 12:00 À : Op-budget-fy2010 at icann.org Cc : Euro 
>>>> Board; At-Large Staff; 'ALAC Working List'
>>>> Objet : [Euro-board] EURALO statement on the Operational Plan and 
>>>> Budget
>>>>
>>>> Dear Sir
>>>>
>>>> At our last General Assembly (GA) at the beginning of March 09 in 
>>>> Mexico-City we had a briefing on the Draft Operational Plan and 
>>>> Budget and a discussion among our member ALSes. On behalf of EURALO, 
>>>> I would like to submit the following Statement which was handed over 
>>>> to the ALAC Board liaison earlier already but unfortunately not 
>>>> directed to you.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Wolf Ludwig
>>>> Chair of EURALO
>>>>
>>>> ====
>>>> The European Regional At-Large Organization is astonished by the 
>>>> reading of the "Proposed Framework for FY10 Operating Plan and 
>>>> Budget". We note with perplexity that neither the At-Large 
>>>> constituency nor the ALAC is ever mentioned once in the entire body 
>>>> of the document; even in the nine pages of Appendix A, which lists 
>>>> ICANN's operating plan items up to the details of "Coordinate and 
>>>> manage Board website hosting" and "Facilitate payment of Director 
>>>> expenses", the ALAC and the At-Large appear only four times, of which 
>>>> three are actions aimed at "improving their performance"
>>>> (whatever that means) among that of other bodies.
>>>>
>>>> For example, of the 16 action items that constitute section 7 
>>>> "Constituency support", ten regard support for registries and 
>>>> registrars; two regard the GNSO; one regards the GAC; the remaining 
>>>> three are generic points that include all SOs and ACs. Apparently, no 
>>>> specific effort is planned by ICANN to support the At Large or user 
>>>> constituencies.
>>>>
>>>> Moreover, section 9 "Global engagement and increased international 
>>>> participation" describes a huge work programme that only focuses on 
>>>> involving more registries, more registrars and more governments 
>>>> throughout the world; several detailed action items are designed to 
>>>> involve new governments in the GAC. It is unbelievable that no 
>>>> mention is made of the need to increase the participation of the 
>>>> public, either through the At Large or through public participation 
>>>> channels in general. From this plan, it looks like ICANN's operating 
>>>> plan is to promote a business fair or trade cartel for registries and 
>>>> registrars, while pleading with governments not to disrupt the plan, 
>>>> and while ignoring anyone else.
>>>>
>>>> We think that global engagement and international participation are a 
>>>> vital part of ICANN's credibility and legitimacy, but definitely not 
>>>> in the sense that ICANN implies with this document. Thus we urge the 
>>>> ICANN Board to check out the corporation's priorities and ensure that 
>>>> appropriate attention, means and budget are allocated to promoting 
>>>> and supporting participation by the global public.
>>>> ====
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> comunica-ch
>>>> phone +41 79 204 83 87
>>>> Skype: Wolf-Ludwig
>>>> www.comunica-ch.net
>>>>
>>>> Digitale Allemd
>>>> http://blog.allmend.ch -
>>>>
>>>> EURALO
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>>>>
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