[At-Large] (not really about) Travel Funding

[Jacqueline A. Morris]

Yeah -I get it.  North Americans aren't going to change so everyone else has to change (grow "thick skins") instead. Thanks for the welcome and understanding. 
These responses really let me  see the cultural bias in all its glory and  WHY it's so difficult to get new ppl involved. 
Jacqueline
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-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Baptista <baptista at publicroot.org>

Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:17:30 
To: At-Large Worldwide<at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Subject: Re: [At-Large] (not really about) Travel Funding


I got your point. And agree with it. But your insights will not alter the
cultural differences discussed here. North Americans and Europeans are not
going to change their ways because of a few cultural insights or complaints.

Much simpler for those cultures to develop a thick skinned approach to
debate. What I see here from those "other" cultures in supporting these
arguments amounts to a lack of confidence in public debate. That is just one
interpretation out of many - right or wrong.

It can just as easily be argued that we here in North America and Europe
need sensitivity training. Thats not going to happen because we don't really
see anything wrong with our ways. Thats why we can easily interpret the
failure of other cultures to debate as a lack of confidence. In fact based
on the discussions here to date that's seem to be exactly what the problem
is.

This is a bit like English instruction. Most cultures in the world train
their children in English because English is the language of trade and it is
also the dominant language on this planet. In the same way other cultures
may very well wish to train their children in our debate style and face the
obvious fact which is that we in North America and Europe are rude assholes
and their children should have the tools, confidence and education to deal
with that.

cheers
joe baptista

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 11:04 PM, Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org> wrote:

> Joe Baptista wrote:
> > Maybe there is a lesson here that these cultures can learn from. Free
> speech
> > can be very painful to listen too but it has served our democracies in
> North
> > America and Europe. While most other cultures suffer under the whip and
> boot
> > were by comparison very well off.
> >
>
> I really disagree with the oversimplification above, and suggest it
> indicates you really didn't get the point of my original message.
>
> Everyone has something to teach, and everyone has something to learn.
>
> - Evan
>
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