[At-Large] New gTLD implementation Consultation Session London 15 July 2009

[Seth Johnson]

This is exactly right.

We also have a process underway that must be criticized in its own
right.  People who show up at these proceedings (now Tokyo and Abu
Dhabi) have to question them on their foundations.

A new initiative would enable a proper discussion of fundamentally
different notions like yours.  Of course, the GNSO went through a
process that was much more participatory, and it was after that that
ICANN overruled everything and set up the IRT.

Incidentally, I got them to acknowledge in the NY meeting that the
synthesis of input from these meetings would be conducted by a new body
-- which we can push to make participatory -- and that they would accept
other recommendations (not just agree with, disagree with, or agree with
modifications).  I don't think that was their plan at all, but we have
it on record now.


Seth


-----Original Message-----
From: carlos aguirre <carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com>
To: At-Large Worldwide <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:22:10 +0000
Subject: Re: [At-Large] New gTLD implementation Consultation Session
London	15 July 2009

> 
> Jorge. 
> 
> Is clear your position and I agreed with you. 
> 
> Isn't work of ICANN, ALAC or another into this organization to create
> law rules. wasn't my proposal.
> 
> The idea is:  ICANN, can help, giving some statements and procedures,
> obviously not laws,or promote those!.
> 
> Just need to put head to work.
> 
> For example, ICANN can decide and declare that Domain Names and
> Trademarks  have nothing to do ones with others.
> 
> With this mere statement you can eliminate a huge number of
> conflicts.
> 
> My two cents. 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Carlos Dionisio Aguirre
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> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 08:47:23 -0500
> > From: jmamodio at gmail.com
> > To: at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > Subject: Re: [At-Large] New gTLD implementation Consultation
> Session London	15 July 2009
> > 
> > > Dear All. Legal traditions are that !!! old and tradicional law.
> World has changed and the paradigms the same ! We need to have new
> rules for new situations inside of the new Information Society and
> their new paradigms.
> > 
> > You are right Carlos, the world has changed and Internet has
> evolved
> > as a platform
> > where electronic commerce, social and political interactions take
> place and much
> > more, and like any system that evolves over time not only the
> > technology has to keep
> > pace with evolution, services, rules and regulations have to adapt
> as well.
> > 
> > But when you get into legal matters and the advancement requires
> modernizing the
> > existing laws or creating new ones, is not ICANN's job, not mine,
> not yours not
> > ALAC or any other body besides the law makers representing the
> people and
> > for those like us that have the benefit of living in a democratic
> > society, those law
> > makers are elected officials.
> > 
> > We can study the matter, generate discussions and exchange of
> ideas, and
> > produce recommendations, but not make the law or try to exploit the
> loopholes
> > on existing laws.
> > 
> > Like any other organization, ICANN can (within what is allowable by
> applicable
> > laws and the terms of the current agreement with the DoC/NTIA) 
> change its
> > bylaws and establishing the rules and regulations to govern itself,
> but by no
> > means ICANN was created as a global governing body of the Internet.
> > 
> > And if we are claiming to be a bottom-up organization we have to do
> a much
> > better job to facilitate the participation to the "bottom" in the
> process.
> > 
> > My .02
> > Jorge
> > 
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