[At-Large] [ALAC] WHOIS Studies (and Protocol)

Yassin Mshana ymshana2003 at hotmail.com
Fri Feb 20 20:11:56 EST 2009


Well done to the discussants of this topic. 

 

The idea of leaving "e-calling card" behind sounds to me like a demand to cause chaos - its like asking everybody shout out, "Hi there!, I can see you!" allthe way down a busy street.

 

The demand for electronic calling card (or electric card as it has been refered to) is a protocol that borders to be a burden. It is like asking for a signature from every reader in a book they have read in public library. 

 

If "WhoIs" this as an open, transparent , global system whereby none of the local (ie. individual country Laws/Regulations ) apply but only ICANN By-Laws, why should a demand such a Right be there in the first place? Is it a matter of "Protocol and Protection on the Internet" and by who?

 

Lets not be submerged into technical and profit issues at the expense of Social Responsibiliy

 

Y Mshana (neutral user)
 
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:01:39 -0800
> From: karl at cavebear.com
> To: at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org; derek at aa419.org
> Subject: Re: [At-Large] [ALAC] WHOIS Studies
> 
> Derek Smythe wrote:
> 
> >> I have long suggested that any one who makes an inquiry into the whois 
> >> data should be obligated to leave an electric "calling card" record 
> >> that informs the data subject of the name, identity...
> 
> > We have a perfect world vs a real world scenario here.
> > 
> > In theory the answer would be yes of course. In reality it may not be a 
> > good idea.
> 
> While the objections you raise are valid, it seems to me that the easier answer is to say 
> that if someone tries to make an inquiry of the whois system and who is unable 
> himself/herself to provide an easily authenticated identification, then the query should 
> be flatly denied (although a record of the attempt should be kept so that the data subject 
> can see how many times a failed assult on his/her privacy has been made.)
> 
> How might one be authenticated? One place is the already existing bulk whois system in 
> which real money has been handed over - ICANN could keep a list of those people and with a 
> bit of extra stuff (something akin to the CSV on the back of a credit card) list could be 
> used to authenticate whois queriers.
> 
> Other places could be a set of digital keys - like the ever expanding interlocking ring of 
> PGP/GPG keys.
> 
> Then there could be the slowly growing (some may say stagnating) reputation services.
> 
> The burden of proving an authentic ID ought to fall upon the person making the query; we 
> ought not to sacrifice privacy on the altar of the querier's convenience.
> 
> If the querier can't meet that burden then he/she should be sent packing, which is an 
> aptly ironic result considering that the querier was most trying to penetrate the identity 
> of the domain name.
> 
> --karl--
> 
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