[At-Large] ICANN PREGUNTAS

[Presidencia Internauta]

Dear Jeffrey and all:
It's very interesting what you say and I totally agree. Karl raises :"... ICANN on the 
list should be placed on a severe diet. But I do not see any force within ICANN that has 
the guts to do it .... " I think we should not wait until someone dares to do something, 
we must be the true protagonists of change within ICANN.
I must also say that I totally agree with Evan, when it says that this culture of 
consensus has led to governance simply by "what is offensive to the lower" instead of 
asserting his leadership, mission, or even published. All for the sake of courtesy. The 
very root concept of "consensus politics" ... as whether to have a different status 
compared to the plain old "politics." In fact, I think some parts of ICANN are even proud 
of this owest common denominator for leadership. However, in my short time in the ICANN 
I've come to see it as a dereliction of duty, and a total lack of willingness to defend 
anything of value, except for growth without an end in itself. "I think it's good to hear 
ALAC this fellow, and I am not alone in my struggle for an Internet fair, free and with 
more possibilities for users.

Sergio


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com>
To: "At-Large Worldwide" <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>; "Presidencia Internauta" 
<presidencia at internauta.org.ar>
Cc: "2nd address Cheryl Langdon-Orr" <langdonorr at gmail.com>; "Alan Greenberg" 
<alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>; "DOC/NTIA ICANN Rep" <aheineman at ntia.doc.gov>; "GAC Rep" 
<ssene at ntia.doc.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [At-Large] ICANN PREGUNTAS


> Sergio and all,
>
>  Yes it is a joke, but a very bad one.  ICANN seems to still consider
> users and/or other non constituency stakeholders a nuisance, even though
> these are the stakeholders that ICANN largely is supposed to serve.  Seems
> to me that they have their collective attitudes backwards, much like the
> Banking community has had and in which we are now bailing them out.
>
> Presidencia Internauta wrote:
>
>> This is unacceptable! they are the same ones who want to lower the costs of 
>> participation
>> of Internet users in ICANN! is a joke ...
>> Sergio Salinas Porto
>> Presidente
>> Asociación Internauta
>> Usuarios de Internet
>> República Argentina
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Danny Younger" <dannyyounger at yahoo.com>
>> To: "At-Large Worldwide" <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:48 PM
>> Subject: [At-Large] ICANN PREGUNTAS
>>
>> >
>> > Adam,
>> >
>> > Some staff payments are indeed listed on the Form 990.  The 2007 Form 990 indicated 
>> > that
>> > Denise Michel received:
>> >
>> > $198,330 -- compensation
>> > $49,160 -- contributions to emloyee benefit plans & deferred compensation
>> > $130,465 -- expense account & other allowances.
>> >
>> > Doug Brent received:
>> >
>> > $148,500 -- compensation
>> > $37,789 -- contributions to emloyee benefit plans & deferred compensation
>> > $12,000 -- expense account & other allowances.
>> >
>> > You'll also find the figures for John Jeffrey, Kurt Pritz, Paul Levins and more... 
>> > (each
>> > of whom receives more than a quarter million dollars per year).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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