[At-Large] [GTLD-WG] my submissions to new gTLD statement

Wed Jan 7 13:11:34 EST 2009

still on vacation, but: stop the process until certain conditions are met, basically, what's spelled out in the letters from the DOC and DOJ. Economic analysis; safety, security and stability concerns; substantial demonstration of capacity to handle new gTLDs.

I can provide more detail on Friday though I suspect that will be too late

plus, I would like to hear what the ALAC thinks we should do -- there has not been much response to this other than from you, John, Bill, and a few trolls. I would have thought the Europeans would have strong objections to even suggesting halting the new gTLD process
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From: Danny Younger [dannyyounger at yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 11:08 AM
To: At-Large Worldwide; gtld-wg at atlarge-lists.icann.org; Brendler, Beau
Subject: Re: [GTLD-WG] my submissions to new gTLD statement

Beau,

Thank you for your effort in producing this document.

My concerns:

While the Statement makes clear that which users find to be objectionable, I am having trouble finding the clear advice that we seek to offer to the Board.

1.  Are we asking that the new gTLD process be stopped until certain conditions are met?  If so, what are those conditions?  Are we asking for a delay?  If so, for how long?

2.  Are we asking that we proceed with the rollout of IDN gTLDs and IDN ccTLDs while we put generic TLDs on the back burner?  If so, do we have any concerns regarding the IDN rollout that should be brought forward at this time?

3.  Are we asking that the Guidebook be tweaked and re-issued, or are we of the view that no Guidebook work should continue until the Economic Study is released and evaluated?

Obviously I have a longer list of questions, but in general terms if you could spell out the action that you want the board to take, it would be easier to respond to this document.

Thanks,
Danny

--- On Sat, 1/3/09, Brendler, Beau <Brenbe at consumer.org> wrote:

> From: Brendler, Beau <Brenbe at consumer.org>
> Subject: [GTLD-WG] my submissions to new gTLD statement
> To: "At-Large Worldwide" <at-large at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, "gtld-wg at atlarge-lists.icann.org" <gtld-wg at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> Date: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 5:21 PM
> greetings...
>
> attached are two draft statements for the ALAC response to
> the new gTLD workbook and process.
>
> I have given up trying to upload these to the wiki, thought
> I knew how but I guess I don't.
>
> I will be leaving town for a few days' vacation
> returning the evening of Weds. Jan. 7. I could possibly
> answer questions then but will not really be available
> between now and then. Unless I am mistaken,though, there
> have been no submissions on new gTLDs since the last phone
> conference).
>
> Attached are two documents: some suggested overview
> statements that ALAC might want to make, and then a
> line-by-line specific document, which generally though not
> completely follows the guide that was sent around. In it I
> addres modules 2, 3 and 4 only, with "consumer
> issues" only. These were written in conjunction with or
> in mind of some of the NCUC's statements and the two
> U.S. government letters to ICANN in December.
>
> Some of the elements really need some discussion! Like
> auctions and so forth. I'm not sure everyone on ALAC
> will be comfortable with some of these statements but here
> they are from my perspective as a member of NA RALO.
>
> I hope also that we have taken note of the fairly big
> controversy the new gTLD application has created, though
> this was perhaps not a surprise.
>
> Beau Brendler
> ________________________________________
> From: Brendler, Beau
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 10:55 AM
> To: gtld-wg-owner at atlarge-lists.icann.org; At-Large
> Worldwide
> Cc: Atlarge Staff
> Subject: Guide to creating response to new gTLD workbook
>
> Greetings.
>
> Several people worked on this since Cairo, so rather than
> holding on to it any longer I wanted to send it out to a
> broad group. It's a sort of guide to creating a draft
> document response to the new gTLD workbook. Only a guide!
> It's meant to be read in conjunction with the document
> itself to suggest areas in which the user community might
> want to elaborate (or not). For it to be most useful you
> still need the workbook document handy. For instance, there
> are things we've since discussed on various lists that
> aren't in this guide, for instance, from Danny:
>
> "Working one's way through module 2 (the Applicant
> Information Form section), there is one question that is
> glaringly missing:
> "Indicate whether (i) the applicant or any of its (ii)
> officers, (iii) directors, or (iv) managers:
> a. within the past ten years, has been convicted of a
> felony or of a misdemeanor related to financial activities,
> or has been judged by a court to have committed fraud or
> breach of fiduciary duty, or has been the subject of a
> judicial determination that is similar or related to any of
> these;
> b. within the past ten years, has been disciplined by the
> government of its, her, or his domicile for conduct
> involving dishonesty or misuse of funds of others;
> c. is currently involved in any judicial or regulatory
> proceeding that could result in a conviction, judgment,
> determination, or discipline of the type specified in (a) or
> (b); or
> d. is the subject of a disqualification imposed by ICANN
> and in effect at the time of this application.
>
> So, for instance, we should decide where we want to put
> that in.
>
> In addition to some of the NCUC comments I have sent out
> over the last 24 hours or so, here are some URLs of
> others' perspectives on new gTLDs.
>
> International Olympic Committee:
> http://forum.icann.org/lists/gtld-guide/pdf2Skbh839Jy.pdf
> Registry Constituency:
> http://forum.icann.org/lists/gtld-guide/docnZV8Xn1mmo.doc
> IDN Comment:
> http://forum.icann.org/lists/gtld-guide/msg00055.html
> Robin Gross:
> http://forum.icann.org/lists/gtld-guide/msg00034.html
> Wendy Chan:
> http://forum.icann.org/lists/gtld-guide/msg00043.html
> Unicode Technical Committee:
> http://forum.icann.org/lists/gtld-guide/msg00021.html
> Ron Andruff:
> http://forum.icann.org/lists/gtld-string/msg00001.html
>
> After the call on Friday, I would like to propose a time
> for the working group to meet and discuss its responses to
> the attached document, to the discussion on the lists, and
> other matters, so that we can work up a statement by the
> deadline, which I believe has now been extended to Jan. 7
> (we will clarify this in Friday's meeting).
>
> Staff, may I ask that you translate this message into
> French and Spanish and distribute it so that we can get
> maximum community involvement.
>
> Thanks
>
> Beau Brendler
>
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