[At-Large] RES: [ALAC] Summary Minutes 14 October 2008

Fri Oct 17 02:17:27 EDT 2008

As I announced during last week, there was a technical failure in the supply chain at Adigo, which did disrupt one call on one day, after which time they moved to a redundant backup system. This is the meltdown Cheryl's referring to.

As I said, we really aren't going to find perfection in teleconference providers, what with voip calls and mobiles in remote locations on bridges, and adding in simultaneous interpretation.

Finally, we're really under the gun here as I believe everyone knows, being down a member of staff during a really busy time. May I suggest that this discussion be tabled until a later time, at least? We are not in any position to go into detailed analyses of teleconference providers now. I would venture to say that the vast majority of the volunteer community in At-Large didn't get involved in policy development at ICANN so they could become involved in analysis of telecommunications providers, either.

We've (staff, at least) got to concentrate on supporting upcoming meetings in Cairo. I would also say that a very full plate of policy issues will be on everyone's plate within a day or two with the release of New GTLD documents of considerable size as well as a document on the At-Large review from the BGC-ALRWG.

On 17/10/2008 07:19, "Adam Peake" <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:

(moving this to the global list)

>Hi Nick
>
>  Far much better than the former operator.
>During board meetings last year was terrible!!!
>This was a real improvement.

Vanda, thanks this is good to hear. But if Cheryl
is saying "ADIGO was in total meltdown" and two
people complained about not being able access the
system from Europe, then it's far from perfect.

>Sure lot's of different kind of connection
>introduce noises and depend upon the people is,
>connection becomes awful. Today at LacRALO was
>almost impossible to hear Jose Luis, but
>afterwards it became much better.
>We have improved our calls going mute when we
>need to be at mobile, getting out of the call
>when we are the source of noise in favor of the
>colleagues etc.
>That is the reality and we need to survive with
>this, but we do improve a lot the issue calls in
>ICANN the last year ( I am in this game for
>almost 9 years now)

You're right. ICANN must organize hundreds of
hours of teleconferences each year,
teleconferences are essential to policy work and
any inefficiency a drain on resources. Learning
from what works best would seem sensible. Perhaps
time for an ICANN community wide study?

Adam

>Best to all
>
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>-----Mensagem original-----
>De: alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>[mailto:alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] Em
>nome de Nick Ashton-Hart
>Enviada em: quinta-feira, 16 de outubro de 2008 10:55
>Para: Adam Peake; ALAC Working List
>Assunto: Re: [ALAC] Summary Minutes 14 October 2008
>
>Adigo is a big improvement over Verizon (other
>parts of Policy are slowly moving over to Adigo
>actually because it is better).
>
>Verizon is in particular very bad when using interpretation.
>
>When people use mobile phones, and VoIP services
>on teleconference bridges, it introduces
>problems. Our calls are far more complex than
>any other part of ICANN as we routinely have
>more people from more developing countries
>participating in many of our calls.
>
>
>On 16/10/2008 14:41, "Adam Peake" <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
>
>Is Adigo often unreliable?  Couple of people on
>the last EU RALO board call mentioned problems.
>
>I've heard good things about the GNSO's calls,
>and remember while the NomCom's service had
>problems reaching a few countries, it was pretty
>solid.
>
>Could ICANN consolidate it's teleconference
>services? Or at least ALAC should look for
>something that works.
>
>Adam
>
>
>
>
>  >Thanks for this... I must say as ADIGO was in total meltdown the day before
>>I'm not surprised there was some tech difficulties I'm just thankful it was
>>so minimal and we'll manage with only partial audio if needs be :-)
>>
>>CLO
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
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>>[mailto:alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of At-Large Staff
>>Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 8:14 PM
>>To: ALAC Working List
>>Subject: [ALAC] Summary Minutes 14 October 2008
>>
>>Dear all,
>>
>>The summary minutes and action items of yesterday's ALAC teleconference are
>>now up on the meeting page:
>>
>>https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?14_october_2008_summary_minutes
>>
>>You can also find them attached below. Please note that the the summary
>>minutes are not final until adoption by the ALAC. Due to a technical problem
>  >the audio recording of this meeting is currently unavailable. If we missed
>>parts of the conversation, it is noted in the minutes. Please edit the
>>summary minutes directly online if you believe that something is missing or
>>misrepresented.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Frederic Teboul
>>ICANN At-Large Staff
>>email: staff at atlarge.icann.org
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